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/Film: LA Prosecutors to Roman Polanski: Surrender First, Then We’ll Talk

  • bsb0085 · 11 months ago
    it doesn't really bother me that the justice system might have been fudged here. the guy is a child molester and he deserves to burn, instead of being aloud to scurry away like the rat that he is. i suppose that an unofficial "ban" from our country is good enough for now though.
  • bsb0085 · 11 months ago
    it doesn't really bother me that the justice system might have been fudged here. the guy is a child molester and he deserves to burn, instead of being allowed to scurry away like the rat that he is. i suppose that an unofficial "ban" from our country is good enough for now though.
  • ANGRYBROOMSTICK · 11 months ago
    HEAR, HEAR!!!!!
  • Delta Assault · 11 months ago
    Agreed. We wouldn't excuse Jeffrey Dahmer if he was a genius at modern interpretive dance.
  • Dr. Doc · 11 months ago
    justice wasnt served in an appropriate manner? HE HAD SEX W/ A 13 YR OLD GIRL!!!

    what would be your definition of justice? just because he is famous and alot of time has passed doesnt mean that this fugitive should be let off the hook! he is a criminal! there is no getting around it
  • ANGRYBROOMSTICK · 11 months ago
    He's a fucking piece of shit. Filthy rapist, I hope he burns in hell!!!!
  • sammysam · 11 months ago
    its pointless to be vulgar, but i happen to agree with these people. rape is rape no matter how the case was handled.
  • C_Sozou · 11 months ago
    To us he's just a freak.

    I could'nt help it.
  • dcfemella · 11 months ago
    He might not be in our country, but he is still making money from the people here. Just like the director of "Jeepers Creepers."
  • CaptainAwesome · 11 months ago
    Holy shit. I had no idea it was the same guy who made Powder.

    "Victor Ronald Salva (born March 29, 1958) is an American film director, mostly of horror movies. His body of work includes the films Powder and Jeepers Creepers. His work is often overshadowed by his conviction for sexually molesting a 12-year-old child actor Nathan Forrest Winters. Salva pleaded guilty in 1988 to five felony counts of child sex abuse; he served 15 months of a three-year prison sentence."
  • dcfemella · 11 months ago
    When "Jeepers Creepers," came out, and the a***ole was getting all these praises, the boy he raped came out and made a statement against him. It was so horrific to read this guy's letter. A lot of people still don't know about him or Polanski.
  • Dutch_Masta · 11 months ago
    Ummm....Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty?"

    The charges against the man are horrendous, and if they are true, then lock him up! Living abroad isn't helping the situation either, and if he was a real man he'd, well, man up and face the charges held against him. My opinion....

    Continue with the lynch mob comments.......
  • bsb0085 · 11 months ago
    haha nice
  • REAL6 · 11 months ago
    But as i recall in other countries people get married and have sex at 10. So who are we "Amerikkkans" to say what age you can start having sex. O if a guy is 20 and a girl 16 or 17 everybody freaks the fuck out. But if its a girl 25 and a guy 45 no one says anything? Come on man. She probably wanted it. But hey, none of us was there so no one knows the true story except her and him. But if it was my daughter i would have blown his head off with my shotgun!!!

    My 2 cents
  • Quenfis · 11 months ago
    Dude, you are extremely ignorant if you think that anyone pre-pubescent or in puberty is in any way shape or form mature enough to understand and handle sex. The argument of a 25 year old with a 45 year old is NOT the same as a 13 year old and a 45 year old. You are even more ignorant for justifying the argument. You are hypocritical and karma should kick your ass so you can understand what that 13 year old's parents had to endure during that time, let alone the child herself. Forceable sex in any form is a horrible crime and is definitely punishable.
  • ANGRYBROOMSTICK · 11 months ago
    you should have heard Sheila Nevin's comment. She's the president of HBO Documentaries and she said that Roman should be "excused" because he's a great artist. My mouth dropped open when she said that.
  • Delta Assault · 11 months ago
    I guess she probably believes OJ's in the clear too for his football and film legacy.
  • Dutch_Masta · 11 months ago
    As would mine. 12 people in a jury would definitely take offense to that
  • bsb0085 · 11 months ago
    i was just about to mention that guy too! he did serve time in jail at least. i don't know if anyone suffered through "Jeepers Creepers 2" but if there wasn't some mild pedophiliac content in that movie than i'll be a monkeys uncle.

    also, the director Larry Clark has put some semi-questionable material in his films and used the "nudity is art" argument.

    what a sad, sad world we live in.
  • Rob · 11 months ago
    You know what happened to "Innocent until proven guilty" it is being upheld in this case. Polanski pleaded guilty to having sex with a minor. The guy fled the country after he pleaded guilty and before the judge could hand down his sentence.
  • bsb0085 · 11 months ago
    he fled the country, that makes it sort of hard to prove him guilty or innocent. also, running away like a coward is a pretty strong admission of guilt, don't you think?
  • Aqualeo · 11 months ago
    He really needs to face the charges. This will always taint his career.
  • Rob · 11 months ago
    I do think Polanski got a raw deal from the judge, but he is an admitted pedophile who after he fled the country started to date a 15 year old Natassia Kinski. He pled guilty to having sex with a minor. His victim claims he drugged and sodomized her.

    He paid for his crimes by serving a few weeks in jail for observations and living a "hard" life in a villa in Fance, dating and marrying models, directing films with the likes of Harrison Ford, Johnny Depp, and Adrien Brody, acting opposite Jackie Chan, winning an Oscar (where non-rapist Martin Scorsese can't seem to do), and being the toast of France.

    If Polanski wants to come back to America, let him face the music like anyone else would. Just because he is a very talented director and calls stars like Jack Nicholson friend shouldn't get him special treatment.
  • Dutch_Masta · 11 months ago
    If he pled guilty then send Dog the Bounty Hunter to get him, I say. Didn't he get another deviant one time?
  • dcfemella · 11 months ago
    In another country? Hahahah....Can you imagine Dog in Europe?
  • Dutch_Masta · 11 months ago
    He went to Mexico for that one rapist dude. That capture made him famous. After that racist espisode and countless CNN embarassments, I think that Polanski would take him back to the top of Trash Bin TV again.
  • ANGRYBROOMSTICK · 11 months ago
    his reputation is already tainted. His career, not so much.
  • ANGRYBROOMSTICK · 11 months ago
    yep, that's celebrity justice for you!!!
  • Dutch_Masta · 11 months ago
    I agree with everything you said. All my thoughts were addressed in my reply already. But Rob said that he had already pleaded guilty. In that case, he needs to be jailed.

    Still, it doesn't matter if you run or not. The term "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" applies to any person wanted for questioning, or any suspect on the run. Running is NO ADMISSION of guilt. There are a million reasons why someone would run, and I agree that in most cases people that run usually might be proven guilty later. But the law is the law, and innocence is ALWAYS assumed in the court of law until proven otherwise.
  • Margot · 11 months ago
    I think the case and the man are more complex than any of us can imagine. even the victim has repeatedly said that she did not want for him to go to prison. And how can we all just ignore the trauma Polanski lived through when his wife Sharon Tate being 8 1/2 months pregnant was brutally murdered by the mason gang. That would mess with anyone's mind. He should pay restitution to the victim and everyone should move on. As to Natasha Kinski...I grew up in Europe and Polanski was not her first lover; the magazines there always had a field day with her sexual exploits as a young teenager.
  • Rob · 11 months ago
    First, your wife getting brutally murdered is not excuse to get a free pass to comit felonies yourself. Yes, Polanski had a lot of personal tragedies, but plenty people have as many or more and do not sleep with children. It is BS excuse for Polanski apologists.

    Also, the she isn't a virgin defense is just as BS. The statutory rape laws in this country do not say that once a minor has sex, he/she has the power to give consent to sex to adults. Just because Kinski was promiscuous doesn't change the fact that a man in his 40s had sex with a child.

    For example, my niece's former best friend is a 14 year old ho-bag. If I, as an adult, had sex with her even though I would probably be her dozenth sexual partner, I seriously doubt the police will refuse to procecute on that information.
  • CaptainAwesome · 11 months ago
    it works for Catholic priests!
  • REAL6 · 11 months ago
    Im not ignorant at all. Im stating fact. Once again, you fail to notice that the victim in question wasn't 13, she was 15 according to her own statements. In this documentary, she states her age at 46, therefore she was born 1962. Also note how many times the victim has changed her story according to whatever fame she seeks from it. At first she says she's a victim. Next she says post-civil suit and massive payout, that Polanski didn't harm her, the system did. She supports Polanski now? Why? She's getting the fame she and her mother sought back then. It's okay now, it can "Go away," according to her own words because she's gotten what she wanted.

    So let's re-examine the issue of Statutory Rape. First of all, no where in the indictment which Polanski pled guilty to, was the word 'rape' used. The official charge was ONE COUNT OF UNLAWFUL SEX WITH A MINOR...hence, no rape. This charge both the 'victim' and her family agreed to. Which means, the only thing that took place that afternoon was that two people had consensual sex. The only law that was broken was that of her age, not whether she could or couldn't consent, which the 'victim' has now said it was. She herself has stated it was consensual and a 15-year-old can consent. And given that I am one year younger than said 'victim', I can tell you in my generation, which this is, we did consent. A 15-year-old can consent despite your obvious lack of the factss facunderstanding of the facts in this case.
  • Rob · 11 months ago
    Just because a person pleads guilt to a lesser crime doesn't mean that he/she weren't guilty of a more serious crime. Polanski pled guilty of statutory rape (unlawful sex with a minor is the term for statutory rape in California). Doesn't mean that he wasn't guilty of rape. It means that that was a compromise his attorneys made with the DA to save it from going to trial. Samantha Geimer's attorney tried to broker a compromise because she wanted the ordeal to be over. She has always claimed that the sex was not consentual, but has decided to not pursue it anymore.

    Also, the age of consent in California is 18, not 15. Geimer was 13 at the time of the offense. The documentary that was aired last year on HBO had been filmed several years earlier. That may be where your mistake is. Go do an internet search and you will see every article on this will say she was 13.

    Before you state facts, you might want to make sure they are correct facts. Here is an interview Geimer did in 2003 for CNN that shows you are wrong:
    http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/24/pola...
  • George Kaplan · 11 months ago
    Where's Batman when you need him?
  • REAL6 · 11 months ago
    Have you forgotten that her mother was pimping her out and that she was a teenage prostitute?

    So it's not black and white. The mother and the girl were on it together, as Samantha is the first to acknowledge. I am not defending Polanski, but she was no victim, either.

    If he wanted sex with this girl, he could have probably just asked, rather drug her and rape her anally. Her mother had sent her to this party out of greed and stupidity - I don't know what the girls intentions were, but she certainly had the right to choose whether she wanted intercourse or not.

    Polanski took that choice away from her and like all rapists, he needs councelling and accountability. not a personally delivered Oscar.
  • Rob · 11 months ago
    First, Samantha Geimer never said she and her mother were in on it together or that her mother was pimping her out as a prostitute. Where in the hell did you get that?!? Some of Polanski friends have accused the mother of being at fault because she supposably knew what type of man Polanski was and his love of underage girls.

    Geimer has admitted to having sex and taking drugs before that encounter and has always claimed that the sex was not consentual. She has adamently denied her mother put her up to it any way. Please get the facts straight.
  • th1nk · 11 months ago
    I love reading comments about crimes such as this on internet forums. Everyone wants blood. I find it amusing. But, before you start calling me names. I think he should come back to the US. I think he should have a fair trial. And I think he should serve his sentence if one is given. Simple.

    You cannot let passion drive justice. That's when we start getting into eye for an eye. Unless you're into that sort of thing, if so. Please stay away from me.
  • jerry seinfeld · 11 months ago
    i agree, but you're ignorant of the situation. Polanski pled guilty to a lesser charge, and fled the country before a sentence was handed down. France won't extradite... So it is Polanski himself that has impeded the justice system in this case.
  • Quenfis · 11 months ago
    "Polanski took that choice away from her and like all rapists, he needs councelling and accountability. not a personally delivered Oscar." And on this I will agree. This chick may be f'd up and was under some sort of control as a minor, yet that still doesn't take away the fact that she was not mature enough to make the decision regardless. I suppose I was more arguing against your age justification, and to that I still say that a teen does not understand the gravity of the situation when it comes to sex.
  • REAL6 · 11 months ago
    O no trust me i agree with you 100% But also from experience it depends on the person. Im a male and when i was 18 i had a girlfriend that was 13. But before you could say anything she didnt look it and already had a kid. You would have thought she was my age. I didnt know till months later her age. But she had been thru alot of trauma in her life where she grew up quick and had her own place. and went to school. so im just saying from a certain standpoint, depends on the situation. im 30 now and i think that shit is very nasty. But im trying to just give an exsample. he should have the book thrown at him for fleeing.
  • Delta Assault · 11 months ago
    Yeesh, I seriously hope you double bagged that or got tested afterwards. Cause I mean... that's just... wow.
  • REAL6 · 11 months ago
    Nah i was bagging. Im trying to live ;)
  • Biff · 11 months ago
    Can we retire the phrase "was probably one of the best [whatevers] that you didn’t see" from film criticism? It reeks of elitism - of a feeling that the masses don't have the capacity to seek out hard-to-find films. I love Slash, and this is far from the only place it occurs, but there it is. If I'm on a wonderful site like Slash, chances are if I want to see a film, I'm going to see it. Plus, this documentary was on HBO. It wasn't that hard to find it.
  • jrgreer · 11 months ago
    He drugged and raped a child and then fled the country. If he comes back, he should do time. End of story.
  • MrMuggs · 11 months ago
    Polanski drugged a 13yr old girl so that she was nearly unconscious and then raped her. Imagine having a 13yr old daughter who is off with a 30-40yr old man and he has sex with her. Think about the maturity level of a 13yr old girl and the kind of man that would have sex with a girl that age.

    Also, this wasn't the first report of Polanski seducing and having sex with underage girls.

    Additionally, when questioned about this Polanski feigned that he wasn't used to the customs of the United States and thought it was appropriate behavior based on his culture and where we grew up. Ridiculous.

    He's guilty. Period. He deserves jail time and it's disgusting that people excuse this behavior.
  • Michael_bay · 11 months ago
    Since when is it illegal for a powerful director to bag a 13 year old?
  • JordanFRAV · 11 months ago
    I am a huge supporter of the 'you commit a crime, you do the time' philosophy, however at the same time, Polanski is still a fantastic director and I hope he continues to weave through the nuts and guts of cinema. The best of both worlds is that he returns to the US, is sentenced judicially and proceeds to 'do his time' before returning back behind the camera for a few last cinematic hurrahs!
  • C_Sozou · 11 months ago
    He had sex with a 13 year old??? I didnt hear that... i should watch more news. Well it was statuatory (spelt rite?) rape... not regular rape.

    Seriously his role in Rush Hour 3 was... :/
  • Scott · 11 months ago
    If you read the victims testimony from the trial, there was nothing statutory about it. He sodomized a 13 year old while she was saying "no, stop"
  • rickshaw1 · 11 months ago
    I guess if the CHILD has already been abused and used, that makes it okay? If someone has a talent for something, that makes it okay to rape and sodomize a CHILD? Wow.

    By the way, rape is notoriously hard to prove. Thats why someone that did some digging came up with charging someone with flashing. The courts aren't allowed to go into a womans history and abuse her on the stand, the rapist is much more easily convicted of a sex crime, can do nearly the same amount of time, and is forced to register as a sex offender.
  • Jfive · 11 months ago
    This asshole drugged and raped a 13 year old girl and hes running around making movies and winning oscars?Wow what a great justice system we have :(
  • Scott · 2 months ago
    He isn't running anywhere today. :O