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sets up carnage and the chameleon for SM5 and possibly the sinister six if the group wasnt destroyed in the collapse.
Back in 1968 (tells you how old I am) I had over 1000 comics. Every few months
I would enter the inner sanctum of my bedroom, close the door so as to prevent
any non-believers from coming in, then spread the comics out on my bedroom floor, sorting them according to either creator or topic.
One of them introduced a new hero called Spiderman. Yes, I had the very first Spiderman comic. He didn't even have his own comic back then but was
introduced as a sideline in another hero's mag.
Then, when I got married, I gave all of my comics away. Talk about wanting to
kick myself!
Admittedly, Mysterio has potential, but he's not a super-powered villain, so I wonder how audiences will react to him. I don't think he could carry an entire movie by himself, though.
You're right, absolutely right about Electro needing a new costume. Right now he looks like an unmenacing sunflower. But if change the costume too much, comic book fans will cry foul, maybe. Hard to say, since Electro is, at best, a C-list villain.
On the plus side, Marvel has a huge universe with ton of villains to choose from, so maybe they'll go outside the SM comic books and select another, more viable villain.
UpperEastSide: you have my sympathies. I've probably collected and sold off my comics 3-4 times now. Just started again early last year. Don't regret it, but storage space is already an issue (living in a one-bedroom will do that to you).
Thanks for playing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion
Not bad as a B-lister, but he definitely can't carry an entire movie as a supervillain. He'd make a better hench-villain.
Not sure if he would be good in the movies, but if written well, he would be cool to see...
I have always considered him to be one of his most notable adversaries. One can easily imagine Hugo Weaving's crooked snarl, arching eyebrows and penetrating stare, nailing this villain. His 20's mafia style will also bring a fresh tone in a high-tech saturated setting.
One vote for the Black Cat approach (no female villains have appeared so far). Another possible approach could be the many-villains-united against Spidey, using new actors for many (lesser) new villains. And yet another approach would be the more dark villains (Morbius, Carrion, etc).
Admittedly though, the most apparent and probable suggestion (that is, one using the already info, actors and events) would be Dr.Connor using the symbiote that he already has to develop Carnage.
And maybe have Gwen turn into the Black Cat? :)
Seriously, how could you leave off Kraven?
One of the more iconic Spidey moments is him climbing out of a grave after being buried alive by the triumphant Villain.
From a writer's prospective, the story would play out perfectly with the Lizard. Kurt Conner's mutates and is loose in the city. Big name hunter with super human reflexes comes to town to to hunt and kill the lizard, Spidey must protect his friend from the Hunter while Peter must race to discover a cure. The issue compounds when Kraven turns his attentions to Spider-Man.
there was so much potential to this character, hopefully they bring him back to develop his story further. I felt that the movie should have spent more time in making the audience truly despise him (as a villain). So maybe this time around with Spider-Man 4, they can focus entirely on Venom and work on that "hate" angle. He can get to Parker through those he loves most- MJ (as evident in SM3) and Aunt May. The movie can have a darker feel to it, than the previous 3. IMO, they NEED to this...they cant let SM's greatest arch-nemesis to go down like he did. That was a cheap ending for one of Marvel's greatest villains.
This is also why they shouldn't bring Carnage into the picture. Theres so much more you can do with Venom. Introducing another alien symbiote would definitely go over the heads of the casual movie goer.
Remember how lame Angel was in X-Men 3.
I dont know about you guys, but I dont see much excitement in seeing SM battle a guy with feathered wings.
PICTURE BEACAUSE THEY DID NOT FOCUS ENOUGH ON VENOM AND I
HOPE THEY WONT PUT CARNAGE IN THE PICTURE AND THEY SHOULD GO DOWN ON THE VILLANS WHAT I MEAN ABOUT THAT IS IT SHOULDBE 1-2 VILLANS IN THE
MOVIE
i dont think they should do the BLACK CAT, they've already done 2 "love triangles" they dont need any more in 4.
But what if it IS'NT a triangle? Mary Jane and Peter were somewhat brought together by the death of harry in 3, but they didnt REALLY make up and SAY they were getting back together. Maybe in my sinister six plan, (not that anyone bothered to read it) It is only at the beginning of 5/end of 4 that Peter and Mary Jane get back together. Perhaps in 4Mary Jane starts to date again, she meets hardy sailor Morris Bench (hydro-Man)(just like in the 90s cartoon). Her and Peter separate, each of them becoming lower and lower in thier respective areas. Spiderman popularity begins to fall again due to the combination of the previous "black Suit" fiasco, and over hype of him by the people of NY (in other words they're tired of seeing him everywhere). Mary Jane bounces back into a relationship with practically the first person she finds. He seems like the perfect man at the time, strong, capable of controlling himself, and doesnt carry hthe stress of being involved with a superhero. Thier lack of money starts to break throught the relationship, and Morris starts to become more and more abusive to Mary Jane (this is over a very long time). Meanwhile Peter is left to deal with other supervillains by himself, his only friend becoming his professor, Doctor Conners (the Lizard) and Aunt May. The relationship tension breaks when Peter sees Mary Jane for the first time in months being rough-housed by Morris in the streets/elswhere Peter intervines by knocking out Morris and freeing MJ literaly right before the final climax battle of 4.
(This is 5 now)
HYDRO-MAN-Jeremy Renner
THE RHINO-Ron Pearlman
Morris Bench is a ship crewman aboard a giant freightor from Russia to the United States. On board are two precious cargos is #1 a new molecular amplefying device invented by the russians during the times of the cold war, #2 in a giant Crate which contains another experiment: Aleksei Mikhailovich Sytsevich (The Rhino). Upon landing, Morris is sent to repair/complete some sort of task on the ship. Before completing his task he is intrigued by the movement of one of the cargo holds (the rhino's). Subsequntly freeing him, The Rhino wreaks havoc on the interior of the ship, and (Of Caurse) activates the molecular devise. In the caurse of the Rhino's rampage, he tears a hole in the ship, sinking it at an unimagineable rate. Debris from the ship, including the devise and Morris are flung into the water while the rest of the sleeping crew drown. The Rhino makes it to the harbor where he is greeted by the police and fire department. He beats the hell out of them, and escapes. After he, and law enforcement leaves, Hydro-Man emerges from the depths of the bay.
Hydro-Man obviously bares some similarites to the Sandman, but it is thier personalities and motives which are almost completely opposite. Much like Spiderman and Venom. Hydro-Man, like in the comics, is extremely cocky, and full of himself. He believes he can get what he wants, when he wants it, and no one can stop him (which is wht he chooses to get back at Peter for stealing MJ from him). His biggest problem with the Sandman is he believes he is not using his powers to his full potential. This leads to thier eventuall downfall in becoming the Mud Monster, before the Sandman eventually triumphs (in 6)
But what if it IS'NT a triangle? Mary Jane and Peter were somewhat brought together by the death of harry in 3, but they didnt REALLY make up and SAY they were getting back together. Maybe in my sinister six plan, (not that anyone bothered to read it) It is only at the beginning of 5/end of 4 that Peter and Mary Jane get back together. Perhaps in 4Mary Jane starts to date again, she meets hardy sailor Morris Bench (hydro-Man)(just like in the 90s cartoon). Her and Peter separate, each of them becoming lower and lower in thier respective areas. Spiderman popularity begins to fall again due to the combination of the previous "black Suit" fiasco, and over hype of him by the people of NY (in other words they're tired of seeing him everywhere). Mary Jane bounces back into a relationship with practically the first person she finds. He seems like the perfect man at the time, strong, capable of controlling himself, and doesnt carry hthe stress of being involved with a superhero. Thier lack of money starts to break throught the relationship, and Morris starts to become more and more abusive to Mary Jane (this is over a very long time). Meanwhile Peter is left to deal with other supervillains by himself, his only friend becoming his professor, Doctor Conners (the Lizard) and Aunt May. The relationship tension breaks when Peter sees Mary Jane for the first time in months being rough-housed by Morris in the streets/elswhere Peter intervines by knocking out Morris and freeing MJ literaly right before the final climax battle of 4.
later thinking about it, Hydro Man would be a cool parallel to the Sandman, and maybe they fuse to become the 'MUD MONSTER".
(This is 5 now)
HYDRO-MAN-Jeremy Renner
THE RHINO-Ron Pearlman
Basically replacing The Chaleleon, Morris Bench is a ship crewman aboard a giant freightor from Russia to the United States. On board are two precious cargos is #1 a new molecular amplefying device invented by the russians during the times of the cold war, #2 in a giant Crate which contains another experiment: Aleksei Mikhailovich Sytsevich (The Rhino). Upon landing, Morris is sent to repair/complete some sort of task on the ship. Before completing his task he is intrigued by the movement of one of the cargo holds (the rhino's). Subsequntly freeing him, The Rhino wreaks havoc on the interior of the ship, and (Of Caurse) activates the molecular devise. In the caurse of the Rhino's rampage, he tears a hole in the ship, sinking it at an unimagineable rate. Debris from the ship, including the devise and Morris are flung into the water while the rest of the sleeping crew drown. The Rhino makes it to the harbor where he is greeted by the police and fire department. He beats the hell out of them, and escapes. After he, and law enforcement leaves, Hydro-Man emerges from the depths of the bay.
Hydro-Man obviously bares some similarites to the Sandman, but it is thier personalities and motives which are almost completely opposite. Much like Spiderman and Venom. Hydro-Man, like in the comics, is extremely cocky, and full of himself. He believes he can get what he wants, when he wants it, and no one can stop him (which is wht he chooses to get back at Peter for stealing MJ from him). His biggest problem with the Sandman is he believes he is not using his powers to his full potential. This leads to thier eventuall downfall in becoming the Mud Monster, before the Sandman eventually triumphs (in 6)
HERE"S WHY:
If they keep using villains 2 by 2 or 3 by 3, by the time they get to 6 for the finale, there wont be any good villains left. IF they did Sin6 in 5, there'd be none left for the 6th movie, if they save them all for 6, what could they do in 5? Two parts- in 5, development of characters (villains/ or MOST of them) + spiderman actually defeated (but not dead) in the end. Part two would be the rampage of the villains in all of new york, and the eventual defeat of them all + the birth of May "Mayday" Parker to conclude the films
VILLAINS
DOC OCK-Alfred Molina
The Return. flashback/whatever shows the arms lifting the unconcious Doctor Otto Octavious out of the water of the Hudson. Having learned his lesson from Peter Parker, he returns back to the home of his mother (he is a major momma's boy in the comics) with no money, and the will to live a life free of crime, she is his only support (financially/emotionally) The doctor somehow manages to free himself from the mechanical monsters, but cant throw them away fearing he will be discovered. He then makes another significant scientific discovery. With the hopes of being free of his charges for making such a profound discovery. In a turn of events, #1-he releases his findings and is 100% wrong about whatever it is that he discovered. #2-Another scientist beats him to the punch on teh discovery. #3-another scientist steals his discovery and releases it as his own. (If #2, maybe peter makes the discovery) Otto is then not only humiliated by the scientific community, but the police know hes alive and are now looking for him. And to top it all off, upon finally making it back to his mothers house (its an extremely stormy night) he finds his mother dead near to an electrical poll, lying next to an unconcious ConEdison worker with a name tag that reads Dillon. . .
ELECTRO-Nathan Fillion
Maxwell Dillon (oddly enough similar to Doc Ock) has an overly protective mother. Her and her husband are very young in comparison to Max, showing he was an obvious accidental pregnancy when his parnts were teens. After being hassled by his asshole father to move out of the house Max counters with the fact that his father is jobless. Upon the arrival of Dillon at his job at ConEd, it is clear that he suffers from inferiority complex (feels he is and always will be balow others in status + low self esteem) when he is pushed around by his co-workers, and looked down upon by his boss. He wishes "they'll pay one day" but is then pushed around more and forgets the ridiculous idea. A strong summer storm approaches, he is ssent to fix a power line. While working in the middle of the storm, Max mis-steps causing him to fall onto one of the wires he is working on sending thousands of volts of electricity through his body. A half second later, lightning strikes the pole where he is being shocked. The two intence bolts of electricity cancel each other out, but fill Maxwell's body with an explosive charge. Walking home from church a curious Mrs. Octavious sees Dillonget shocked and fall from the pole. After asking the unconcious Dillon if he was alright with no answer, she moves closer. As she touches his neck to check his pulse, she is electrocuted and dies instantly.
SCORPION-Jason Staham
After Electro breaks into the daily bugle and steals a large sum of money, JJJ in his infinate wisdom concludes that Electro is really spiderman in a different costume. To Peter's dismay, JJJ hires bulky private investigator Mac Gargan to find Spiderman/"Electro". He is armed in a slightly futuristic looking green army uniform (nothing special). his arsonal of defense includes several poison containing grenades whoes contents are hightly acidic to all surfaces. After confronting spiderman and being relatively quickly defeated he returns to JJJ only to be sent back out again with a higher paycheck. This time he finds some kind of information which leads him to the area of Max's electrocution. Upon knocking on the door of every house in the neighborhood he arrives at teh Octavious home and is abducted by Doc Ock and Electro. All agreeing in thier hatred for spider man, Doc Ock builds Gargan a backpack version of his tentacles containing one arm. Lacking the cybernetic technology to create the AI's like in Doc's arms, the claws and "eye" are replaced with a "stinger" (much like the spike that Ock uses against Spider man In 2)
(SPIDERMAN 4)
they've already done 2 "love triangles" they dont need any more in 4.
But what if it IS'NT a triangle? Mary Jane and Peter were somewhat brought together by the death of harry in 3, but they didnt REALLY make up and SAY they were getting back together. Maybe in my sinister six plan, It is only at the beginning of 5/end of 4 that Peter and Mary Jane get back together. Perhaps in 4Mary Jane starts to date again, she meets hardy sailor Morris Bench (hydro-Man)(just like in the 90s cartoon). Her and Peter separate, each of them becoming lower and lower in thier respective areas. Spiderman popularity begins to fall again due to the combination of the previous "black Suit" fiasco, and over hype of him by the people of NY (in other words they're tired of seeing him everywhere). Mary Jane bounces back into a relationship with practically the first person she finds. He seems like the perfect man at the time, strong, capable of controlling himself, and doesnt carry the stress of being involved with a superhero. Thier lack of money starts to break throught the relationship, and Morris starts to become more and more abusive to Mary Jane (this is over a very long time). Meanwhile Peter is left to deal with other supervillains by himself, his only friend becoming his professor, Doctor Conners (the Lizard) and Aunt May. The relationship tension breaks when Peter sees Mary Jane for the first time in months being rough-housed by Morris in the streets/elswhere Peter intervines by knocking out Morris and freeing MJ literaly right before the final climax battle of 4.
(This is 5 now)
HYDRO-MAN-Jeremy Renner
THE RHINO-Ron Pearlman
Basically replacing The Chaleleon, Morris Bench is a ship crewman aboard a giant freightor from Russia to the United States. On board are two precious cargos is #1 a new molecular amplefying device invented by the russians during the times of the cold war, #2 in a giant Crate which contains another experiment: Aleksei Mikhailovich Sytsevich (The Rhino). Upon landing, Morris is sent to repair/complete some sort of task on the ship. Before completing his task he is intrigued by the movement of one of the cargo holds (the rhino's). Subsequntly freeing him, The Rhino wreaks havoc on the interior of the ship, and (Of Caurse) activates the molecular devise. In the caurse of the Rhino's rampage, he tears a hole in the ship, sinking it at an unimagineable rate. Debris from the ship, including the devise and Morris are flung into the water while the rest of the sleeping crew drown. The Rhino makes it to the harbor where he is greeted by the police and fire department. He beats the hell out of them, and escapes. After he, and law enforcement leaves, Hydro-Man emerges from the depths of the bay.
Hydro-Man obviously bares some similarites to the Sandman, but it is thier personalities and motives which are almost completely opposite. Much like Spiderman and Venom. Hydro-Man, like in the comics, is extremely cocky, and full of himself. He believes he can get what he wants, when he wants it, and no one can stop him (which is wht he chooses to get back at Peter for stealing MJ from him). His biggest problem with the Sandman is he believes he is not using his powers to his full potential. This leads to thier eventuall downfall in becoming the Mud Monster, before the Sandman eventually triumphs (in 6)
SANDMAN-Thomas Haden Church
The past few years have been better for Flint Marko's family, secretly obtaining different jobs he has been able to support his daughter and has provided money for her continued health. But things have suddenly taken a turn for the worst, her illness has gotten worse and reequires immediate operation for her survival. Flints money was only enough to barley pay for her medication, not even if he used every penny the family owned would he be able to pay for the operation. So he seeks the help of his friend spiderman, but him and mary jane are in a bit of a financial bind themselves. Marko becomes angry but understands and controlls his anger the way peter had taught him. but there is no time and he is desperate, he has steal more money as the last time. He is confronted by spiderman nad given a "you cant do this" speech. Next #1-Sandman gets away but doesnt get there in time. #2 spiderman LETs him go but doesnt get there in time,. #3 Spiderman stopps him from stealing the money, and his daughter dies. Although reluctantly, hte sandman once again becomes an enemy of Spiderman.
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storyline takes place a couple years after the events of 3
opening scene displays parker & mj's new apartment, looking around the room you see pics, trinkets, photo albums, etc. that show that they've been happily married for some time now.
mj gets home, checks mail and answering machine...hears something from the room...thinks peter just got home (as spiderman)...she sees spiderman (red costume)...then as she get closer the costume starts changing to black (a la symbiotes ability to mimc clothing) and then the sharp tooth smile slowly appears on the figures face (the whole time venom says nothing).
scene cuts to a couple hours later....
parker is seen swinging home (its night time and raining)...he drops in through the ceiling window...its all dark, hears crying, finds the light switch, turns it on, the light appears and mj sees spiderman and screams cuz she thinks its venom again....screams until he takes off his mask. she obviously traumatized as she tries to explain what happened but cant. its assumed that venom assaulted her (wont say how since this is a pg-13 flick).
opening intros ensue (opening credits, blah, blah, blah)...
...i continue more if i have time later
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maybe he is stalking MJ b/c she had a big break into a movie, and he is the special effects guy.
and what happened to sand man he just blew away in the 3rd one so maybe hell come back
My version of sinister six also includes scorpion
my villains were: Doctor Octopus, Electro, Scorpion, Hydro-Man, The Rhino, and Sandman.
rhino and Hydro-man were described in the same paragraph.
also coment if you agree with the actors i have for the roles (you may have to look a few up, remember that there will be some kind of budget, so they cant have A-list stars as every villain, or they'll spend all the money for f/x on the actors)
it looses controle and carnage is formed and he goes wild and venom teaming up with spidey to stop carnage
play mysterio
Mysterio would have to be older though- David Hyde Pierce?
is there any villain you don;t want?
my villains were: Doctor Octopus, Electro, Scorpion, Hydro-Man, The Rhino, and Sandman.
the rhino and hydro man were listed in the same paragraph
since doc Ock's arms had "minds of thier own" couldn't they have carried him out of the water?
b/c yes, he can move fast, but he's not like the flash or anything. He's fast for a HUMAN BEING, but that's it
For Doc. Ock i say hes dead becus when u see him drown u also see the arms are powering out which it dont work no more and for Doc. Ock he literally drowned and died and said "I will not DIE a monster" so i dont kno how they would make sinister six in the last of Spiderman 5 and 6 but u kno movies are always different than books even comics ofcorse and they could change the sinister six a little bit by replacing the villians but with who? i dont kno. Let people decide the new sinister six if they make it. But it would be also understandable for Hobgoblin to appear in one of the spider man movies but not in 4 cus we see goblins already and wants something new that keeps connecting to the story and throughout the story like for example sandman killed peters uncle and later came back the the third movie so every spiderman movie has to connect to each movie and not just make new all of a sudden in my opinion the villains need to connect in a way through the story line.
Now about the symbiotes... if they go the venom route and bring him back, they could go with the "eddie lost his memoery of spidermans real identity" scenario. And if they do the venom route... for the ending of four spidey could send the symbiote into outerspace, and then by some mischance, in space the symbiote could latch onto a meteor and plummet back to earth breaking apart in the atmosphere, (this would be in the beginning of 5) then in comes (dont murder me for forgetting the spelling of his name...) the escaped convict cassidy, who happens upon the other part of the symbiote..if they were to really strech it they could come up with the maximum carnage plot for 6 or so....
but thats how ide like to see it
but i like the i dea of scorpion appering in this one and venom coming back but brock figuring out he has cancer and the symbiotes think there host is to weak so they go in saerch for a new one which there you have it scorpion witch turns into venom 3 compleltley skipping venom 2 cuz he sucked
in they would probably bring in Toxin. If they bring in carnage i dont think that the fight scenes would be any good because Spiderman would be trashed!
I dont like the possibility that venom would become a good guy..its like
james bond turning bad!! I like the idea of shocker and Lizard but not Mysterio;
hes just a drama queen
along with the Lizard, because they would go hand in hand, considering both Peter and Conners mutate. After stopping the Lizard from wanting to turn
everyone else into Lizards (no more pain and suffering), Conners in his normal
self would create a cure to heal them both. Another villain such as Carnage
could be in the movie to wreak havok while the other issue is going on.
but i know for a fact that he wont be in spiderman 4 because
they already put him in the spiderman 3 video gamea as one of
the villians, so basically they wouldnt spoil it for us, unless they were that stupid...i really dont think that they would though...I KNOW IT SUCKS!!!!!
Connors was in 1 and 2, and he had a missing arm in both of them
why would they give him a missing arm if he wasn't going to be
a villain.
into the lizard and in the whole confusion and stransformation knocks over
the symbiote sample and gets onto kassady somehow
then he could be ''hob-golin. and who is car-
nage???
dr. conners still has a sample oh the simbiote
suite.
my spiderman 4 movie:
first appearance: becoming of ELECTRO. 2 jj jameson wants peter out of game, then contracts a private detective: mac gargan ( in future, the SCORPION), to investigate parker. Then appears felicia hardy (BLACK CAT), wanting peter's love. Electro makes first appearance as villlain robbing a bank... ( to b continued...)
please continue the script...
so this is what i think should be in spider man 4 hope u use some of the ideas and if u can't fit them all in this flim then just put them in spider man 5. good luck with making spider man 4.
P.S maybe make a movie wth spiderman VS superman lol thier is a comc on it it would be cool.
didnt try to save him and want revenge, Venom could have faked death and the Lizard is DEFINATLEY in
change the movie and make it differant.
in SM 3 they did 3 villains and venom got no screen time, or at least
make it 3 1/2 hours long if they do do the sinister six. Or Maybe
Spider-Man should finally get a partner to split the six. But if they
do the sinister six they have to take kraven out because in real life
he wouldnt stand a chance against spider-man.
so it can be a battle between the three of them the whole movie.
still in the next trilogy becasue if he's not it's going to ruin the
movie.
CARNAGE
LIZARD
i mean if they put venom in i could under stand that cause
venom had like 20min in 3 but if they do carnage
theyll be no time for all the other other villans in part 4 .
they should save carnage for 5 or 6
shocker or hydro-man in part 4 like show at the end they
show shocker making the gauntlets and escaping from jail
i think that would be cool to do
and make an apperence of shocker at the end of the film
like have them show shocker at the end making the gauntlets
and escaping from jail . and in part 5 have carnage and
shocker like team up or something like that
sorry.
spiderman has no help and even if he did who would help him
i mean harry died already.???
SM4:
dr.conners tries to grow back his arm and he finds the mutation of lizard if they can change a few things he thinks hes a monster so he goes in to the sewrers never to be seen but spidey has little battles with lizzard cuz he robbed a few places to get every thing he needs to figure out to get back to normal.while venom is in cuz and ozcorp bomb cant killl a man when blown up in his face (harry) it cant kill a powerful creature. so while spidey battles him dr. conners is figuring out a way to fix his problem when he takes his concoctions when the symniobite falls in with peters dna . spidey and venom have the biggest batlle in sm history like on a tall building to a construction site and threw the city.while conners takes a test subject randomly found aka kassady running from the police. so conners forms carnage in a cliffhanger way for sm5
SM5: it starts out peter is making a cheezy speech and then goes to the daily bugel with j.j thinking of ways to kill spiderman when peter comes in with better pics of spiderman when peter leaves j.j calls a private investergator (mac gargan) and puts him in a suit with a mechanical tail (scorpion) after he fights spidey in a little roof top battle he stumbles into a layer underground in the sewers which is conners and unlocks a cage thats horribley shaking and a red object swoops past him. then a tail slams scorpion into the wall which is lizard.who go's and tries to chase down carnage.while scorpion gets away but the symbiote comes with him with out him knowingmso now spidey has to deal with carnage while lizard who also goes to try to catch him spidey and lizard team up to catch carnage who battles extremley awsome effects. and for an ending mac goes back to his apparment trying to get his suit off when the symniobite gets scorpion like i said to form venom III and carnage some how smelling the pearson who set him free setting a favor to venom III for setting him free which is kill spidey. but not seeing venomIII but just seeing both there shadows and there you have it villans for sm 6
Clone Saga Part 1
For those who have never read this spider-man book I think that this would be a perfect sequel for spider-man 3. If there is to be a new cast and director as is rumored then this would be a perfect time and storyline for the transition. Also they can alter Vemon with a new cast and make him more like he was in the comics (in other words, buff). Personaly I thought his character was poorly done in Spider-Man 3. Throughout the movies there can be numerous flashbacks in order to repair and retell his origins. The story takes place with the biggest snow storm in centuries. Venom had long been believed dead when really he has been hiding in the sewers of New York City. His blood thirsty characteristics have settled down after a time and he now works to rid the subways and underground of crime as the Lethal Protector. Venom, as he was in the comics, will receive the view of the audience as being a “villainous†superhero. In his warped mind he has always seen himself as the hero and Spider-man as the monster.
Spider-man receives an award during a ceremony honoring those acting to prevent crime. Spider-Man’s alter ego gets an award as well for the inspiring photos he took of the starving and desperate people within the city. This award was shared with Ned Leeds who wrote the article for the paper. Spider-Man was given an award for helping to clean up crime within the subways but there was just one minor problem. The “clean up†was Venom’s doing and the award was rightfully his. To make matters worse Spider-man was praised during the ceremony for having defeated the villain Venom. Now publicly humiliated Venom renewed he quest for revenge against his web slinging enemy.
Just before this horrible crisis is about to break loose Peter Parker chooses a very bad time to ask Mary Jane to marry him (This was not solved during the last movie right?). However before she gives him a strait answer she sees the news on TV…..Spider-man had robbed a bank of a couple million dollars. Venom used his costume and made it transform into spider-man’s (he could do that in the comic as well as have it transform into his street cloths). Impersonating the webspinner he then robbed the bank to destroy his reputation. In Mary Jane’s eyes she thought it could be no one but peter because the Spider-man she had seen on TV had shot webbing like him and clung to a wall. Fearing the person see had loved had become a criminal at last she runs from peter leaving him nothing but a note. Peter, now heartbroken and fearing for Mary Jane tries to figure out who is behind impersonating him. Finally he remembers how the Symbiote had the ability to imitate any piece of clothing and could use all of Spidy’s powers. The problem was that as far as peter knew Venom had been killed in the explosion. The only answers could be that Eddy Brock had survived or someone had gotten hold of the Symbiot sample that Dr. Conners had in his lab. After checking with Dr. Conners and learning that the Symbiot was still locked within his cellar Spider-Man was forced to face the facts that Venom was still alive and well. Peter then jumped on a subway in order to get to the daily bugle and get the story out that Venom was still alive. On the Subway Venom attacks peter and knocks him out of the train. The two battle and at the end of the battle Peter knocks venom in front of a train going by and Venom is swept down the tracks. Peter, beat up, makes his way to the bugle. When he arrives there J. J.J orders him into the office and fires him saying that the photos he got rewards for had been fakes. A man had come in dressed like someone from the pictures and claimed that he had posed for the pictures. Peter and Ned Leeds both object for they had both been there when peter had taken the photos. Confused on what to do Jameson orders them out of his office until he could make a decision. Peter knew it had been Venom who had disguised himself with the Symbiot to look like people from the pictures. Ned Leeds questioned him and asked if he had any enemies that might try to frame him and Peter could only laugh.
In order to beat the traffic that had built up due to the blizzard Peter Changed to Spider-man and attempts to swing across town. While swinging he hears a whisper in his ear. He turns and sees no one and then through the white of the snow Venom appears swinging along side him. “Nice night for a swing.†He says. Then he is gone again. Seconds later his web line snaps and he falls and hits the roof of a building. He sees Venom once more before he finally disappears into the snow once more.
When Peter returns home he finds Mar Jane at the apartment getting the remains of her thing. Peter manages to convince her to listen to him. She is not totally convinced when the door rings. Peter answers it and there stands Eddie Broke in a mailman suite. Peter allows him in. He carries with him a large box. Eddie takes a seat in the kitchen, helping himself to a glass of coffee. Peter’s curiosity finally gets the better of him and he asks
“What’s in the box?â€Â
Eddie replays calmly and smoothly, “Open it in find out.†Despite his suspicions Peter opens it and finds a metal case. After opening that he discovers all of the money that Venom had stolen that day.
Eddie explains to him that he would get revenge on him by ruining his life in the same way he had ruined his. Peter had caused Eddie Broke to be fired from his job and not only that but his entire reputation was shattered. Even in the end his girlfriend left him. Eddie told Spider-Man that all the money had Peter Parkers finger prints on them. When Peter asked how Venom told him that he knew everything about Peter. Because the Symbiot had bonded with Peter it had learned everything there was to know about him……even his fingerprint. Then, right before Peter and Mary Jane the symbiot stretched over Eddies hand and the fingers twisted and formed small ridges that represented Peter Parker’s exact fingerprint. The Symbiot retreated and they resumed their conversation. Now if Spider-man tried to return the money the law would discover who he was and if he did not return it he would remain a fugitive forever. Spider-Man would only have one choice. He would have to face Venom in a duel at Midnight, at the Prison, and during what was the greatest Blizzard that New York had faced in a century. Not only that but he would have to meet Venom on his terms. Spider-Man could not use sound against Venom. Venom said if Spiderman could beat him without using sound then he would tell the police that he had attempted to frame and an innocent photographer but if he used Sonics against him then Venom would tell the NYPD the address of Peter Parker and then they would find the money and learn the identity of Spider-man!
Enraged Peter attacked Venom with insults and soon the tension escalated. Eddie transformed into Venom and attacks Peter. There is a medium size fight scene in the apartment. At the end Spider-Man appears to be defeated but Venom does not kill him, instead he just says, “The Prison. At Midnight,†then he smashes thought the window and disappears into the white of snow. Peter knew that he had left him alive because he wanted everyone to see that he could beat Spider-Man.
Midnight comes at last and Spider-Man heads for the prison. When Peter gets to the prison he learns that Venom had set loose all the criminals disguised as Spider-Man. Spider-Man is struggling to fight both the police and the prisoners when he see….himself through the snow. Breaking away and following the OTHER Spider-Man they finally meet at a fateful spot. The other Spider-Man transforms into Venom and they begin their greatest battle. At the end Spider-Man manages to set off gas tanks by Venom causing an enormous explosion. Venom comes out of the explosion stunned and the symbiote looks drooped as if melting off Eddie’s body before Venom can act Spider-man knocks him into the freezing ice. The melted symbiote slowly starts to freeze onto the ice each time the stunned Venom is pushed back into the ice and sleet. Soon the Symbiote can no longer hold onto Eddie because it is completely frozen into the ice. Spider-Man had defeated Venom without sound! Both the Symbiote and Venom where taken into custody (separately). Eddie kept his word despite his hatred for Peter. The symbiote was considered to dangerous to keep around and was thrown into a Furness and destroyed. As this is happening the Symbiote in Dr. Connors cellar is freaking out in its thick glass jar. Eddie Brock is taken to prison at last. And Peter Parker? Well Pete finally gets married atop a building roof in the snow. How about that? Everyone is happy! Unfortunately I have a bad habit of disrupting that in my storylines. Before this ends Dr. Connors is showing another professor, Miles Warren, what he is describing to be the greatest discovery in human history. Connors turns on his light in the cellar and finds the glass with the Symbiote sample was in shattered! And the Symbiote has disappeared.
Roll Credits……..
Clone Saga Part 1
For those who have never read this spider-man book I think that this would be a perfect sequel for spider-man 3. If there is to be a new cast and director as is rumored then this would be a perfect time and storyline for the transition. Also they can alter Vemon with a new cast and make him more like he was in the comics (in other words, buff). Personaly I thought his character was poorly done in Spider-Man 3. Throughout the movies there can be numerous flashbacks in order to repair and retell his origins. The story takes place with the biggest snow storm in centuries. Venom had long been believed dead when really he has been hiding in the sewers of New York City. His blood thirsty characteristics have settled down after a time and he now works to rid the subways and underground of crime as the Lethal Protector. Venom, as he was in the comics, will receive the view of the audience as being a “villainous†superhero. In his warped mind he has always seen himself as the hero and Spider-man as the monster.
this is more like a Venom spinoff.
and venom hav venom team up with shocker during the end and
make an apperence of mysterio
kingpin and alistair smythe should definaetly be in the fourth film , what about a storyline with peter being in trouble with the law and needing matt murdoch/dare devils help! that way daredevil and kingpin would be seen again
i used to love alisatire smthys black widow spider slayers they were a good storyline in the cartoons, that way we would have him battling kingpin too
Midnight Justice (Spiderman 4)
Clone Saga Part 1
For those who have never read this spider-man book I think that this would be a perfect sequel for spider-man 3. If there is to be a new cast and director as is rumored then this would be a perfect time and storyline for the transition. Also they can alter Vemon with a new cast and make him more like he was in the comics (in other words, buff). Personaly I thought his character was poorly done in Spider-Man 3. Throughout the movies there can be numerous flashbacks in order to repair and retell his origins. The story takes place with the biggest snow storm in centuries. Venom had long been believed dead when really he has been hiding in the sewers of New York City. His blood thirsty characteristics have settled down after a time and he now works to rid the subways and underground of crime as the Lethal Protector. Venom, as he was in the comics, will receive the view of the audience as being a “villainous†superhero. In his warped mind he has always seen himself as the hero and Spider-man as the monster.
-Just before this horrible crisis is about to break loose Peter Parker chooses a very bad time to ask Mary Jane to marry him (This was not solved during the last movie right?). However before she gives him a strait answer she sees the news on TV…..Spider-man had robbed a bank of a couple million dollars. Venom used his costume and made it transform into spider-man’s (he could do that in the comic as well as have it transform into his street cloths). Impersonating the webspinner he then robbed the bank to destroy his reputation. In Mary Jane’s eyes she thought it could be no one but peter because the Spider-man she had seen on TV had shot webbing like him and clung to a wall. Fearing the person see had loved had become a criminal at last she runs from peter leaving him nothing but a note. Peter, now heartbroken and fearing for Mary Jane tries to figure out who is behind impersonating him. Finally he remembers how the Symbiote had the ability to imitate any piece of clothing and could use all of Spidy’s powers. The problem was that as far as peter knew Venom had been killed in the explosion. The only answers could be that Eddy Brock had survived or someone had gotten hold of the Symbiot sample that Dr. Conners had in his lab. After checking with Dr. Conners and learning that the Symbiot was still locked within his cellar Spider-Man was forced to face the facts that Venom was still alive and well. Peter then jumped on a subway in order to get to the daily bugle and get the story out that Venom was still alive. On the Subway Venom attacks peter and knocks him out of the train. The two battle and at the end of the battle Peter knocks venom in front of a train going by and Venom is swept down the tracks. Peter, beat up, makes his way to the bugle. When he arrives there J. J.J orders him into the office and fires him saying that the photos he got rewards for had been fakes. A man had come in dressed like someone from the pictures and claimed that he had posed for the pictures. Peter and Ned Leeds both object for they had both been there when peter had taken the photos. Confused on what to do Jameson orders them out of his office until he could make a decision. Peter knew it had been Venom who had disguised himself with the Symbiot to look like people from the pictures. Ned Leeds questioned him and asked if he had any enemies that might try to frame him and Peter could only laugh.
-In order to beat the traffic that had built up due to the blizzard Peter Changed to Spider-man and attempts to swing across town. While swinging he hears a whisper in his ear. He turns and sees no one and then through the white of the snow Venom appears swinging along side him. “Nice night for a swing.†He says. Then he is gone again. Seconds later his web line snaps and he falls and hits the roof of a building. He sees Venom once more before he finally disappears into the snow once more.
When Peter returns home he finds Mar Jane at the apartment getting the remains of her thing. Peter manages to convince her to listen to him. She is not totally convinced when the door rings. Peter answers it and there stands Eddie Broke in a mailman suite. Peter allows him in. He carries with him a large box. Eddie takes a seat in the kitchen, helping himself to a glass of coffee. Peter’s curiosity finally gets the better of him and he asks
“What’s in the box?â€Â
Eddie replays calmly and smoothly, “Open it in find out.†Despite his suspicions Peter opens it and finds a metal case. After opening that he discovers all of the money that Venom had stolen that day.
Eddie explains to him that he would get revenge on him by ruining his life in the same way he had ruined his. Peter had caused Eddie Broke to be fired from his job and not only that but his entire reputation was shattered. Even in the end his girlfriend left him. Eddie told Spider-Man that all the money had Peter Parkers finger prints on them. When Peter asked how Venom told him that he knew everything about Peter. Because the Symbiot had bonded with Peter it had learned everything there was to know about him……even his fingerprint. Then, right before Peter and Mary Jane the symbiot stretched over Eddies hand and the fingers twisted and formed small ridges that represented Peter Parker’s exact fingerprint. The Symbiot retreated and they resumed their conversation. Now if Spider-man tried to return the money the law would discover who he was and if he did not return it he would remain a fugitive forever. Spider-Man would only have one choice. He would have to face Venom in a duel at Midnight, at the Prison, and during what was the greatest Blizzard that New York had faced in a century. Not only that but he would have to meet Venom on his terms. Spider-Man could not use sound against Venom. Venom said if Spiderman could beat him without using sound then he would tell the police that he had attempted to frame and an innocent photographer but if he used Sonics against him then Venom would tell the NYPD the address of Peter Parker and then they would find the money and learn the identity of Spider-man!
- Enraged Peter attacked Venom with insults and soon the tension escalated. Eddie transformed into Venom and attacks Peter. There is a medium size fight scene in the apartment. At the end Spider-Man appears to be defeated but Venom does not kill him, instead he just says, “The Prison. At Midnight,†then he smashes thought the window and disappears into the white of snow. Peter knew that he had left him alive because he wanted everyone to see that he could beat Spider-Man.
-Midnight comes at last and Spider-Man heads for the prison. When Peter gets to the prison he learns that Venom had set loose all the criminals disguised as Spider-Man. Spider-Man is struggling to fight both the police and the prisoners when he see….himself through the snow. Breaking away and following the OTHER Spider-Man they finally meet at a fateful spot. The other Spider-Man transforms into Venom and they begin their greatest battle. At the end Spider-Man manages to set off gas tanks by Venom causing an enormous explosion. Venom comes out of the explosion stunned and the symbiote looks drooped as if melting off Eddie’s body before Venom can act Spider-man knocks him into the freezing ice. The melted symbiote slowly starts to freeze onto the ice each time the stunned Venom is pushed back into the ice and sleet. Soon the Symbiote can no longer hold onto Eddie because it is completely frozen into the ice. Spider-Man had defeated Venom without sound! Both the Symbiote and Venom where taken into custody (separately). Eddie kept his word despite his hatred for Peter. The symbiote was considered to dangerous to keep around and was thrown into a Furness and destroyed. As this is happening the Symbiote in Dr. Connors cellar is freaking out in its thick glass jar. Eddie Brock is taken to prison at last. And Peter Parker? Well Pete finally gets married atop a building roof in the snow. How about that? Everyone is happy! Unfortunately I have a bad habit of disrupting that in my storylines. Before this ends Dr. Connors is showing another professor, Miles Warren, what he is describing to be the greatest discovery in human history. Connors turns on his light in the cellar and finds the glass with the Symbiote sample was in shattered! And the Symbiote has disappeared.
Roll Credits……..
- Enraged Peter attacked Venom with insults and soon the tension escalated. Eddie transformed into Venom and attacks Peter. There is a medium size fight scene in the apartment. At the end Spider-Man appears to be defeated but Venom does not kill him, instead he just says, “The Prison. At Midnight,†then he smashes thought the window and disappears into the white of snow. Peter knew that he had left him alive because he wanted everyone to see that he could beat Spider-Man.
-Midnight comes at last and Spider-Man heads for the prison. When Peter gets to the prison he learns that Venom had set loose all the criminals disguised as Spider-Man. Spider-Man is struggling to fight both the police and the prisoners when he see….himself through the snow. Breaking away and following the OTHER Spider-Man they finally meet at a fateful spot. The other Spider-Man transforms into Venom and they begin their greatest battle. At the end Spider-Man manages to set off gas tanks by Venom causing an enormous explosion. Venom comes out of the explosion stunned and the symbiote looks drooped as if melting off Eddie’s body before Venom can act Spider-man knocks him into the freezing ice. The melted symbiote slowly starts to freeze onto the ice each time the stunned Venom is pushed back into the ice and sleet. Soon the Symbiote can no longer hold onto Eddie because it is completely frozen into the ice. Spider-Man had defeated Venom without sound! Both the Symbiote and Venom where taken into custody (separately). Eddie kept his word despite his hatred for Peter. The symbiote was considered to dangerous to keep around and was thrown into a Furness and destroyed. As this is happening the Symbiote in Dr. Connors cellar is freaking out in its thick glass jar. Eddie Brock is taken to prison at last. And Peter Parker? Well Pete finally gets married atop a building roof in the snow. How about that? Everyone is happy! Unfortunately I have a bad habit of disrupting that in my storylines. Before this ends Dr. Connors is showing another professor, Miles Warren, what he is describing to be the greatest discovery in human history. Connors turns on his light in the cellar and finds the glass with the Symbiote sample was in shattered! And the Symbiote has disappeared.
Roll Credits……..
-Midnight comes at last and Spider-Man heads for the prison. When Peter gets to the prison he learns that Venom had set loose all the criminals disguised as Spider-Man. Spider-Man is struggling to fight both the police and the prisoners when he see….himself through the snow. Breaking away and following the OTHER Spider-Man they finally meet at a fateful spot. The other Spider-Man transforms into Venom and they begin their greatest battle. At the end Spider-Man manages to set off gas tanks by Venom causing an enormous explosion. Venom comes out of the explosion stunned and the symbiote looks drooped as if melting off Eddie’s body before Venom can act Spider-man knocks him into the freezing ice. The melted symbiote slowly starts to freeze onto the ice each time the stunned Venom is pushed back into the ice and sleet. Soon the Symbiote can no longer hold onto Eddie because it is completely frozen into the ice. Spider-Man had defeated Venom without sound!
YET.
FOR INSTANCE, GREEN GOBLIN KILLED HIMSELF. DOCK OCK DROWNED
HIMSELF, VENOM KILLED NEW GOBLIN, SPIDER-MAN LET SANDMAN GO,
AND WE DON'T KNOW IF VENOM IS DEAD YET.
AND CARNAGE WILL DIE OF AIDS.
PROBLEMS AND SEPERATE AGAIN.
A WAY, BUT WHO IS GALACTUS THE MAIN VILLAIN OF. BECAUSE HE
FIGHTS PRETTY MUCH EVERY MARVEL SUPER HERO.
I like the idea of the snow. I REALLY think the whole pretending to be spiderman thing would be better for MYSTERIO, cause thats his main crime thing that he always does in the comics. I like thye subway battle, that would have to happen more on the stations/in the tunnels than on the train b/c they already did that in 2. i did'nt like the "dress up the prisoners" at all Venom isnt really a character that has the "budget" for something like that, its not his style. no clone saga, Scarlet Spider has a cool costume, but other than that, i can really do without that stuff. adn even though you wrote spiderman as tha main character, this seems more Venom spinnoff-eyy-ish to me i think. if you dont mind (i dont know how long this'll take) im gunna write my own version with the LIZARD and MYSTERIO
kingpin and alistair smythe should definaetly be in the fourth film , what about a storyline with peter being in trouble with the law and needing matt murdoch/dare devils help! that way daredevil and kingpin would be seen again
or does anyone think that a story with the vulture and the tablet of time would be to farfetchd for the big screen,
i used to love alisatire smthys black widow spider slayers they were a good storyline in the cartoons, that way we would have him battling kingpin too
kingpin and alistair smythe should definaetly be in the fourth film , what about a storyline with peter being in trouble with the law and needing matt murdoch/dare devils help! that way daredevil and kingpin would be seen again
or does anyone think that a story with the vulture and the tablet of time would be to farfetchd for the big screen,
i used to love alistare smyths black widow spider slayers they were a good storyline in the cartoons, that way we would have him battling kingpin too
Im not sure about smyth either, hes kind of a medium popular villain, Molten Man being a not so popular villain. Smyth would be possibly the best for a mutant-spidey movie, where after evading the law, spiderman has to avoid the slayers who createed them to bring in spiderman for the reward.
dirty work for him. you would also be able to introduce matt murdoch at some point too.
DAREDEVIL VS SPIDERMAN
KINGPIN IN ONE OF THE MOVIES = MILLION DOLLAR SALES
Mary Jane has found a new man, Morris “Morrie†Bench. As differing from the other movies, this is not a love triangle, it has been about 6 months since MJ has seen or spoken to Peter, he is not a factor in her new relationship whatsoever. MJ has finally hit her big break, she is a supporting actress in a low budget actin movie. Unknown to her the lead stunt/special effects coordinator of Mysterio Industries has taken a liking to her. Knowing how strong Morrie is (he’s seen him on the set before) he only dares to watch and follow her at a distance. Later in the movie we learn that even though they are not together, SPIDERMAN does a similar operation as Quentin, only for the sake of her safety.
But through the eyes of her followers, MJ’s relationship is not a good one. She's clearly only with Morrie for the sake of being with a man, he is verbally abusive to her, and neglects her needs constantly. Finally, (about halfway through the movie) Quentin and Peter both watch as Morrie finally crosses the line with a punch to MJ’s face which instantly reminds Peter of what he had done, and how no one should have to do that to her again. They both rush over to her, unfoertunarly for Quentin, his not being known by either of the three others in the situation leaves him rejected by the conflict. He is thrown away by Morris and hides (believed to be gone) somewhere close to the scene.
After a shortly escalated fight, Peter knocks Morrie out and leaves him in an alleyway. Peter begs MJ to come back to him. She says he has to choose between himself or SPIDERMAN. Peter’s final resource is to, at very bad time, ask Mary Jane to marry him. They continue to argue over how safe she’ll be and how much he really loves him. As they both make references to SPIDERMAN Quentin finally realizes Peter’s secret identity! MJ agrees to return to the same spot in one week with her design. MYSTERIO realizes Peters chances and decides to use Peters powers against him. He starts by following Peter he watches as he spends literally the last of his money on a beautiful necklace for MJ. Over the week Quentin creates an identical suit, grip gloves and web-shooters. Hours before Peter and MJ meet MYSTERIO hatches his plan, he goes into a local bank as SPIDERMAN, makes a big scene, and steals money that’s just about the same worth as the necklace.
Peter and MJ meet once again, However before she gives him a strait answer she sees the news on TV.....SPIDERMAN had robbed a bank. Impersonating the web spinner, MYSTERIO then robbed the bank to destroy his reputation. In Mary Jane’s eyes she thought it could be no one but peter because the SPIDERMAN she had seen on TV had shot webbing like him and clung to a wall. Fearing the person see had loved had become a criminal at last she runs from peter leaving him nothing but a note. Peter, now heartbroken and fearing for Mary Jane tries to figure out who is behind impersonating him. Peter realizes someone must know who he is, and MUST have been following him to know just how mush money he spent on that necklace.
(DURING ALL OF WHAT I HAVE JUST DESCRIBED THERE IS A SECOND PLOT LINE OF DR. CURT CONNORS --THE LIZARD-- THIS BELOW DESCRIPTION HAPPENS AT THE SAME.)
Peter is attending his last year in college. Him and other students begin to notice something strange about their professor lately. It is shown later he is suffering from phantom limb syndrome and minor hysteria because of it. Peter is glad to help his friend and teacher in any way possible. Peter is introduced to the professor’s family who are all trying to help him feel better. But it’s just not enough for him, he begins studying reptilian limb regeneration. He asks Peter for help, they both work endlessly. They then successfully regenerate the limb of a rabbit. The professor is anxious to use the serum on himself, but Peter warns him that a few more test have to be done to ensure a successful regrowth. After Peter leaves, Connors sits in his office for hours thinking to himself. Finally, in the early hours of the morning, he takes the serum. At first, much to the Doctor’s dismay, nothing happens. After a few minutes of panic and frustration, he can feel something, his arm slowly begins to regenerate, he obviously is overjoyed by the results. In mid- celebration he meaninglessly clenches his fist, but he screams out in pain. As he looks down he sees large lacerations on the palm of his hand. He looks at his fingers as large talons form. He panics again. He helplessly watches as his skin becomes hard and scaly, his teeth sharpen and pupils thin. He once again screams with unending pain as his knee, and feet bones snap, pop, and regrow to form hind legs. Finally after being unrecognizable and reptilian his tail begins to grow, it whips around his room at speeds of 70 miles per hour destroying anything in its path he smashes his desk through a wall, making a hole for him to escape, nearby is a stairwell down to the subway. . .
(THIS IS WHERE THE STORY LINES START TO CONVERGE)
Peter then jumps on a subway in order to get to the daily bugle and get the story out that there is a SPIDERMAN impostor. On the Subway as citizens emerge from the train THE LIZARD attacks. It starts to rip through the small crowd like tissue paper. All try to get away as Peter attempts to get closer, but he doesn’t notice the tail. It smacks him in the chest sending him through the doors back onto the train. The rest begin to escape as THE LIZARD leaps onto the train while it pulls out of the station. The two battle, throwing eachother into walls and handrails until Peter and knocks him out of the train. The two battle in the dark of the tunnel and at the end of the fight Peter knocks THE LIZARD in front of a train going by and THE LIZARD is swept down the tracks. Peter is ready for It to leap back towards him when the train is gone, or fot it to be dead, but the monster is completely gone. Peter says “well thats newâ€Â. Peter, beat up, makes his way to the bugle. When he arrives there JJJ orders him into the office and fires him saying that the photos he got rewards for had been fakes. A man had came in dressed like someone from the pictures and claimed that he had posed for the pictures. Peter objects, Ned defends him just for the sake of hoping Peter wouldn’t do that. Confused on what to do Jameson orders them out of his office until he could make a decision. Peter knew it must have been the same guy who had disguised himself with the Spidey suit to look like people from the pictures. Ned Leeds questioned him and asked if he had any enemies that might try to frame him and Peter could only laugh.
In order to beat the traffic that had built up due to the blizzard Peter Changed to SPIDERMAN and attempts to swing across town. While swinging he hears a whisper in his ear. He turns and sees no one and then through the white of the snow MYSTERIO appears swinging along side him. “Nice night for a swing.†He says. Then he is gone again. Seconds later his web line snaps and he falls and hits the roof of a building. He sees the man un-costumed once more before he finally disappears into the snow once more.
Peter returns to class the next day frustrated with his new tormentors but eager to complete the final genetic tests with Dr. Connors after class. The class begins relatively normal, if not better than it has in the past few days with the professor feeling anxious. But halfway in, things take a turn fot the worst, the class seems to notice the professor has begun to perespire, and studder, as if trying to hold something in. Peter then notices something else, his eyes are turning yellow (like a LIZARD). The doctor stopps mid sentence and drunkenly makes his way up the stairs through the students, as he passes by Peter he touches his shoulder and says “im sorryâ€Â. He leaves the room. Peter sits there for a moment thinking of the meaning of Connor’s last words, he then rushes through the door after him (the camera stays in the classroom) after about 5 seconds a female scream can be heard, almost a second later THE LIZARD and SPIDERMAN burst through one of the walls of the class room and continue fight. THE LIZARD uses his tail to capture escaping students and throws them across the room, SPIDERMAN having to save them and subdue his opponent. Peter realizes that as a reptile with cold blood, THE LIZARD will be weakened in the outdoor winter temperatures. His plan works, although still an effective fighter with his tail, THE LIZARD’s substacially decreased strength proved to be his downfall. SPIDERMAN is able to lure him into an alleyway and web-wrap him to a fire escape ladder. Peter questions the animal until he finds its inner knowledge of who he and Peter are. He does this with his mask still on. The beast says yes and very slowly transforms back into Curt Connors. Peter takes him down and swings away as countless on-lookers begin to crowd the scene. He delivers Doctor Connors into a sewer system, he explains that it is the only place where he could change without hurting people. Naturally, MYSTERIO followed them. After Peter leaves, he waits until the professors next transformation, with his spider-suit handy. . .
When Peter returns home he finds MJ at the apartment getting the remains of her things. Peter manages to convince her to listen to him. She is not totally convinced when the door rings. Peter answers it and there stands Quentin Beck in a mailman suite. Peter allows him in. He carries with him a large box. Quentin takes a seat in the kitchen, helping himself to a cup of coffee. Peter’s curiosity finally gets the better of him and he asks “What’s in the box?â€Â
Quentin replies calmly and smoothly, “Open it in find out.†Despite his suspicions Peter opens it and finds a metal case. After opening that he discovers all of the money that MYSTERIO had stolen that day. Quentin explains to him that he would get revenge on him by ruining his life in the same way he had ruined his. Peter had caused Quentin to lose the only woman he loved. Quentin told SPIDERMAN that all the money had Peter Parkers finger prints on them. When Peter asked how he told him that he knew everything about Peter. Because he had bonded with Peter, and followed him wherever he went, he had learned everything there was to know about him……even his fingerprint. (During explanation there are a few clips of the places Peter has been throughout the movie with Quentin studying him in the background) Then, right before Peter and Mary Jane he reaches into his pocket which has a latex glove that represented Peter Parker’s exact fingerprint. His hand retreated and they resumed their conversation. Now if SPIDERMAN tried to return the money the law would discover who he was and if he did not return it he would remain a fugitive forever. SPIDERMAN would only have one choice. He would have to face MYSTERIO in a duel at Midnight, at the Yankee stadium construction site, and during what was the greatest Blizzard that New York had faced in a century. When asked why the constustion site he only replies he’s happy to be “warm blooded†(his reference being to THE LIZARDS neccesity of warm temperatures which will be provided by the stadium lights). He would have to meet MYSTERIO on his terms. He explains SPIDERMAN must come alone (he thinks this wont be a problem because he doesn’t seem to be a “built†man. MYSTERIO says if SPIDERMAN could beat him without using any help then he would tell the police that he had attempted to frame and an innocent photographer but if he doesn’t then Quentin would tell the NYPD the address of Peter Parker and then they would find the money and learn the identity of SPIDERMAN.
Enraged Peter attacked MYSTERIO with insults and soon the tension escalated. Quentin attacks Peter. There is a medium size fight scene in the apartment. MYSTERIO gasses the room to appear invisible. He grabs MJ in the confusion, as he leaves he just says, “The Site. At Midnight,†then he smashes thought the window and disappears into the white of snow. Peter knew that he had left him alive because he wanted everyone to see that he could beat SPIDERMAN.
Midnight comes at last and SPIDERMAN heads for the construction site. When Peter gets to the site he sees that there seems to be at least 30 Spider-Men (MYSTERIO duplicating with effects). SPIDERMAN is struggling to fight and find the real MYSTERIO when he sees….himself, with MJ through the snow. Breaking away and following the OTHER spiderman they finally meet at a fateful spot. The other Spidermen disapear and MYSTERIO stands with his arm locked with MJ’s. The stadium lights turn on. MYSTERIO starts to monologue, but though facing him, doesnt seem to be talking to Peter. He says “ It’s a shame you’ve braught yourself so low, trying to take MY woman from ME, well our love is to strong for YOUR evil you--you--you, IMPOSTOR!!!†As he yells impostor THE LIZARD leaps from the side and blindsights Peter, first by tackling him, and then punching him with his enormous tail. The two fight endlessly as they weave in and out of various construction, and building materials. Eventually after continuous fighting (which i dont feel like describing, so use your imagination) SPIDERMAN is pinned down against the ground and a construstion vehicle. He is holding THE LIZARD’s mouth open in front of him while trying to tell It he’s Peter. He pushes It to the side in order to remove his mask, but the force of the reptile trying to bite him send him flying into the vehicle which causes it to flip and explode under it.
This leaves MYSTERIO, he pushes MJ back as gas cloads emerge from his sleves. MYSTERIO taunts SPIDERMAN as he unsuccessfuly hunts the villain in the fog. He begins with his figures saying “i’m over here†as SPIDERMAN turns towards that direction, he gets punched from the opposite side by the REAL him. (THIS CONTINUES A FEW TIMES). Then the fog clears and he and MJ appear to be gone. Then (from the top of one of the lights on the opposite side of the field) “you know you really should hold onto you’re personal belongings†he drops MJ from the astounding height. SPIDERMAN helplessly watches as his lover falls to earth. Peter reaches the other side, collapses on his knees beside her and begins to weep harder than he did when Uncle Ben died. He lies helplessly next to her until he hears a scream “PETER LOOK OUT!!!†the REAL MJ yells as the other disapears. He is met withe swift kick to the face. “emotional warfare always works†MYSTERIO says. SPIDERMAN then shoots webbing at Quentin, but he quickly disperses a gas to disolve it. Peter has had enough, he leaps out at him, he contines to punch him in the face until he is bloody all over. But he is stopped, Dr. Connors grabbs his hands before he can swing another fist. He looks around the ones he loves are around him cold and scared, thet want to go home. The NYPD starts to arrive. Quentin kept his word despite his hatred for Peter. Quentin Beck is taken to prison at last. And Peter Parker? Well Pete finally gets married atop a building roof in the spring. How about that? Everyone is happy! For now.....DUM, DUM, DUM!!!
Roll Credits……..
VS. SPIDER-MAN
But if there is there should be hopgoblin and carnage thats all
everyone else sucks
By the Way Part 2 of Clone Saga is almost done. I will have it up soon. If anyone wants an inside look look up Carnage, Venom, the Jackal and Scarlet Spider!
The Lizard
Kraven
Carnage
Leave it at that. I'm going fishin.
Bruce Campbell do something more than just cameos.
I wasn't aware that Lizard was confirmed, but he got my
vote anyway.
Peter and MJ's relationship is still going downhill and Peter wants to impress MJ,
Peter doesnt know what to do, but during a visit to doctor connors, he sees the venom sybiote in the room, so he thinks: hell ill get rid of it quickly after, but when he uses it instead of good ideas, he starts to steal again in the black suit, but when he gets rid of it this time, theres so much hatred that only half of the suit goes but still goes to cassidy to form carnage, Peter then fights carnage in a huge factory and when it looks like all is lost, a dark shadow enters and say, hes mine!
out of the shadows comes venom, amazingly not dead.
the film ends with peter keeping the suit and getting away,
but before that venom and carnage fight and venom finally throws carnage into a furnace, and turning to see spidey escape
its pretty much the same as spider-man 2 but with some special features
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IS GONNA ROCK! 2009 or 2010 is a year to wait for!
it said s-m 4 in coll writing
(theo, 7 year old spidey fan)
Which Spider-Man film is the best?
Spider-man
Spider-man 2
Spider-man 3
SANDMAN vs, HYDRO-MAN would be an AMAZING Battle. Hob Goblin as main villain, but he REALLY has to cause some Major damage.
Workin' hard on HYDRO and ELECTRO, expect it within the week.
Spider-man-0 votes-0%
Spider-man 2-2 votes-50%
Spider-man 3-2 votes-50%
(NOTE: My vote does count)
and has any1 notoced how spider-man hasnt killed any1?
and how almost all the time his suit gets ripped and his mask gets riped?
IT WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD (BUT MORE CONFUSING THAN SPIDER-MAN
AND NOT ENOUGHT TIME FOR DAVY JONES!)
Why wasnt Harry killed?
Peter Sciretta you have completely left out the video games based on the three Spider-man films. Most of the villains you named for sure won't be in the flims at least an a main villain. And Lizard as 95%? Give me break and play Spiderman 3 or Spiderman 2 for GBA. He's already made an appearance and has no purpose unless the symbiote he took from Peter IS Carnage....
Mary Jane has found a new man, Morris “Morrie†Bench. As differing from the other movies, this is not a love triangle, it has been about 6 months since MJ has seen or spoken to Peter, he is not a factor in her new relationship whatsoever. MJ has finally hit her big break, she is a supporting actress in a low budget actin movie. Unknown to her the lead stunt/special effects coordinator of Mysterio Industries has taken a liking to her. Knowing how strong Morrie is (he’s seen him on the set before) he only dares to watch and follow her at a distance. Later in the movie we learn that even though they are not together, SPIDERMAN does a similar operation as Quentin, only for the sake of her safety.
But through the eyes of her followers, MJ’s relationship is not a good one. She’s clearly only with Morrie for the sake of being with a man, he is verbally abusive to her, and neglects her needs constantly. Finally, (about halfway through the movie) Quentin and Peter both watch as Morrie finally crosses the line with a punch to MJ’s face which instantly reminds Peter of what he had done, and how no one should have to do that to her again. They both rush over to her, unfoertunarly for Quentin, his not being known by either of the three others in the situation leaves him rejected by the conflict. He is thrown away by Morris and hides (believed to be gone) somewhere close to the scene.
After a shortly escalated fight, Peter knocks Morrie out and leaves him in an alleyway. Peter begs MJ to come back to him. She says he has to choose between himself or SPIDERMAN. Peter’s final resource is to, at very bad time, ask Mary Jane to marry him. They continue to argue over how safe she’ll be and how much he really loves him. As they both make references to SPIDERMAN Quentin finally realizes Peter’s secret identity! MJ agrees to return to the same spot in one week with her design. MYSTERIO realizes Peters chances and decides to use Peters powers against him. He starts by following Peter he watches as he spends literally the last of his money on a beautiful necklace for MJ. Over the week Quentin creates an identical suit, grip gloves and web-shooters. Hours before Peter and MJ meet MYSTERIO hatches his plan, he goes into a local bank as SPIDERMAN, makes a big scene, and steals money that’s just about the same worth as the necklace.
Peter and MJ meet once again, However before she gives him a strait answer she sees the news on TV…..SPIDERMAN had robbed a bank. Impersonating the web spinner, MYSTERIO then robbed the bank to destroy his reputation. In Mary Jane’s eyes she thought it could be no one but peter because the SPIDERMAN she had seen on TV had shot webbing like him and clung to a wall. Fearing the person see had loved had become a criminal at last she runs from peter leaving him nothing but a note. Peter, now heartbroken and fearing for Mary Jane tries to figure out who is behind impersonating him. Peter realizes someone must know who he is, and MUST have been following him to know just how mush money he spent on that necklace.
(DURING ALL OF WHAT I HAVE JUST DESCRIBED THERE IS A SECOND PLOT LINE OF DR. CURT CONNORS –THE LIZARD– THIS BELOW DESCRIPTION HAPPENS AT THE SAME.)
Peter is attending his last year in college. Him and other students begin to notice something strange about their professor lately. It is shown later he is suffering from phantom limb syndrome and minor hysteria because of it. Peter is glad to help his friend and teacher in any way possible. Peter is introduced to the professor’s family who are all trying to help him feel better. But it’s just not enough for him, he begins studying reptilian limb regeneration. He asks Peter for help, they both work endlessly. They then successfully regenerate the limb of a rabbit. The professor is anxious to use the serum on himself, but Peter warns him that a few more test have to be done to ensure a successful regrowth. After Peter leaves, Connors sits in his office for hours thinking to himself. Finally, in the early hours of the morning, he takes the serum. At first, much to the Doctor’s dismay, nothing happens. After a few minutes of panic and frustration, he can feel something, his arm slowly begins to regenerate, he obviously is overjoyed by the results. In mid- celebration he meaninglessly clenches his fist, but he screams out in pain. As he looks down he sees large lacerations on the palm of his hand. He looks at his fingers as large talons form. He panics again. He helplessly watches as his skin becomes hard and scaly, his teeth sharpen and pupils thin. He once again screams with unending pain as his knee, and feet bones snap, pop, and regrow to form hind legs. Finally after being unrecognizable and reptilian his tail begins to grow, it whips around his room at speeds of 70 miles per hour destroying anything in its path he smashes his desk through a wall, making a hole for him to escape, nearby is a stairwell down to the subway. . .
(THIS IS WHERE THE STORY LINES START TO CONVERGE)
Peter then jumps on a subway in order to get to the daily bugle and get the story out that there is a SPIDERMAN impostor. On the Subway as citizens emerge from the train THE LIZARD attacks. It starts to rip through the small crowd like tissue paper. All try to get away as Peter attempts to get closer, but he doesn’t notice the tail. It smacks him in the chest sending him through the doors back onto the train. The rest begin to escape as THE LIZARD leaps onto the train while it pulls out of the station. The two battle, throwing eachother into walls and handrails until Peter and knocks him out of the train. The two battle in the dark of the tunnel and at the end of the fight Peter knocks THE LIZARD in front of a train going by and THE LIZARD is swept down the tracks. Peter is ready for It to leap back towards him when the train is gone, or fot it to be dead, but the monster is completely gone. Peter says “well thats newâ€Â. Peter, beat up, makes his way to the bugle. When he arrives there JJJ orders him into the office and fires him saying that the photos he got rewards for had been fakes. A man had came in dressed like someone from the pictures and claimed that he had posed for the pictures. Peter objects, Ned defends him just for the sake of hoping Peter wouldn’t do that. Confused on what to do Jameson orders them out of his office until he could make a decision. Peter knew it must have been the same guy who had disguised himself with the Spidey suit to look like people from the pictures. Ned Leeds questioned him and asked if he had any enemies that might try to frame him and Peter could only laugh.
In order to beat the traffic that had built up due to the blizzard Peter Changed to SPIDERMAN and attempts to swing across town. While swinging he hears a whisper in his ear. He turns and sees no one and then through the white of the snow MYSTERIO appears swinging along side him. “Nice night for a swing.†He says. Then he is gone again. Seconds later his web line snaps and he falls and hits the roof of a building. He sees the man un-costumed once more before he finally disappears into the snow once more.
Peter returns to class the next day frustrated with his new tormentors but eager to complete the final genetic tests with Dr. Connors after class. The class begins relatively normal, if not better than it has in the past few days with the professor feeling anxious. But halfway in, things take a turn fot the worst, the class seems to notice the professor has begun to perespire, and studder, as if trying to hold something in. Peter then notices something else, his eyes are turning yellow (like a LIZARD). The doctor stopps mid sentence and drunkenly makes his way up the stairs through the students, as he passes by Peter he touches his shoulder and says “im sorryâ€Â. He leaves the room. Peter sits there for a moment thinking of the meaning of Connor’s last words, he then rushes through the door after him (the camera stays in the classroom) after about 5 seconds a female scream can be heard, almost a second later THE LIZARD and SPIDERMAN burst through one of the walls of the class room and continue fight. THE LIZARD uses his tail to capture escaping students and throws them across the room, SPIDERMAN having to save them and subdue his opponent. Peter realizes that as a reptile with cold blood, THE LIZARD will be weakened in the outdoor winter temperatures. His plan works, although still an effective fighter with his tail, THE LIZARD’s substacially decreased strength proved to be his downfall. SPIDERMAN is able to lure him into an alleyway and web-wrap him to a fire escape ladder. Peter questions the animal until he finds its inner knowledge of who he and Peter are. He does this with his mask still on. The beast says yes and very slowly transforms back into Curt Connors. Peter takes him down and swings away as countless on-lookers begin to crowd the scene. He delivers Doctor Connors into a sewer system, he explains that it is the only place where he could change without hurting people. Naturally, MYSTERIO followed them. After Peter leaves, he waits until the professors next transformation, with his spider-suit handy. . .
When Peter returns home he finds MJ at the apartment getting the remains of her things. Peter manages to convince her to listen to him. She is not totally convinced when the door rings. Peter answers it and there stands Quentin Beck in a mailman suite. Peter allows him in. He carries with him a large box. Quentin takes a seat in the kitchen, helping himself to a cup of coffee. Peter’s curiosity finally gets the better of him and he asks “What’s in the box?â€Â
Quentin replies calmly and smoothly, “Open it in find out.†Despite his suspicions Peter opens it and finds a metal case. After opening that he discovers all of the money that MYSTERIO had stolen that day. Quentin explains to him that he would get revenge on him by ruining his life in the same way he had ruined his. Peter had caused Quentin to lose the only woman he loved. Quentin told SPIDERMAN that all the money had Peter Parkers finger prints on them. When Peter asked how he told him that he knew everything about Peter. Because he had bonded with Peter, and followed him wherever he went, he had learned everything there was to know about him……even his fingerprint. (During explanation there are a few clips of the places Peter has been throughout the movie with Quentin studying him in the background) Then, right before Peter and Mary Jane he reaches into his pocket which has a latex glove that represented Peter Parker’s exact fingerprint. His hand retreated and they resumed their conversation. Now if SPIDERMAN tried to return the money the law would discover who he was and if he did not return it he would remain a fugitive forever. SPIDERMAN would only have one choice. He would have to face MYSTERIO in a duel at Midnight, at the Yankee stadium construction site, and during what was the greatest Blizzard that New York had faced in a century. When asked why the constustion site he only replies he’s happy to be “warm blooded†(his reference being to THE LIZARDS neccesity of warm temperatures which will be provided by the stadium lights). He would have to meet MYSTERIO on his terms. He explains SPIDERMAN must come alone (he thinks this wont be a problem because he doesn’t seem to be a “built†man. MYSTERIO says if SPIDERMAN could beat him without using any help then he would tell the police that he had attempted to frame and an innocent photographer but if he doesn’t then Quentin would tell the NYPD the address of Peter Parker and then they would find the money and learn the identity of SPIDERMAN.
Enraged Peter attacked MYSTERIO with insults and soon the tension escalated. Quentin attacks Peter. There is a medium size fight scene in the apartment. MYSTERIO gasses the room to appear invisible. He grabs MJ in the confusion, as he leaves he just says, “The Site. At Midnight,†then he smashes thought the window and disappears into the white of snow. Peter knew that he had left him alive because he wanted everyone to see that he could beat SPIDERMAN.
Midnight comes at last and SPIDERMAN heads for the construction site. When Peter gets to the site he sees that there seems to be at least 30 Spider-Men (MYSTERIO duplicating with effects). SPIDERMAN is struggling to fight and find the real MYSTERIO when he sees….himself, with MJ through the snow. Breaking away and following the OTHER spiderman they finally meet at a fateful spot. The other Spidermen disapear and MYSTERIO stands with his arm locked with MJ’s. The stadium lights turn on. MYSTERIO starts to monologue, but though facing him, doesnt seem to be talking to Peter. He says “ It’s a shame you’ve braught yourself so low, trying to take MY woman from ME, well our love is to strong for YOUR evil you–you–you, IMPOSTOR!!!†As he yells impostor THE LIZARD leaps from the side and blindsights Peter, first by tackling him, and then punching him with his enormous tail. The two fight endlessly as they weave in and out of various construction, and building materials. Eventually after continuous fighting (which i dont feel like describing, so use your imagination) SPIDERMAN is pinned down against the ground and a construstion vehicle. He is holding THE LIZARD’s mouth open in front of him while trying to tell It he’s Peter. He pushes It to the side in order to remove his mask, but the force of the reptile trying to bite him send him flying into the vehicle which causes it to flip and explode under it.
This leaves MYSTERIO, he pushes MJ back as gas cloads emerge from his sleves. MYSTERIO taunts SPIDERMAN as he unsuccessfuly hunts the villain in the fog. He begins with his figures saying “i’m over here†as SPIDERMAN turns towards that direction, he gets punched from the opposite side by the REAL him. (THIS CONTINUES A FEW TIMES). Then the fog clears and he and MJ appear to be gone. Then (from the top of one of the lights on the opposite side of the field) “you know you really should hold onto you’re personal belongings†he drops MJ from the astounding height. SPIDERMAN helplessly watches as his lover falls to earth. Peter reaches the other side, collapses on his knees beside her and begins to weep harder than he did when Uncle Ben died. He lies helplessly next to her until he hears a scream “PETER LOOK OUT!!!†the REAL MJ yells as the other disapears. He is met withe swift kick to the face. “emotional warfare always works†MYSTERIO says. SPIDERMAN then shoots webbing at Quentin, but he quickly disperses a gas to disolve it. Peter has had enough, he leaps out at him, he contines to punch him in the face until he is bloody all over. But he is stopped, Dr. Connors grabbs his hands before he can swing another fist. He looks around the ones he loves are around him cold and scared, thet want to go home. The NYPD starts to arrive. Quentin kept his word despite his hatred for Peter. Quentin Beck is taken to prison at last. And Peter Parker? Well Pete finally gets married atop a building roof in the spring. How about that? Everyone is happy! For now…..DUM, DUM, DUM!!!
Roll Credits……..
very little description for the villains. YOu have to remember that in many ways,
Spiderman flim video games determine if whether a particular villain will appear or not.
If Lizard appeared and his story was completely different from the one in Spiderman 2 and 3, then Raimi has screwed up the entire Spiderman trilogies.
It's 2010 now and Peter has not seen enough crime for his likings, so he decides that he will take a vacation to Miami (dumb idea from me i think) meanwhile MJ has got a part in the film "The Saint of Manhattan", with Quentin Beck, Quentin has a secret crush on MJ, until he tells her on 3rd day of filming, they both fall in love as MJ forgets all about Peter. But in Doctor Connors lab Doctor Connors has had a secret that hes been transforming into the Lizard (still not strong enough to take him over, yet) after he realizes what is going on, the Doc puts a message on his camera saying what is happening to him, all of a sudden, the Doc transforms into the Lizard which is now strong enough to take over, and destroys the camera in one swipe of its tail, in Miami Peter is on the beach flirting with girls, he hasnt touched his Spidey costume, until he leaves Miami heading home (action time!) upon arrival Peter sees New York in a mess, thanks to evryone's favourite lizard, Peter swings home and unpacks the suit and web zips out of the window, on set at the film though MJ and Quentin are deeply in love, until MJ sees Quentin with another girl, MJ runs over to Quentin and slaps him and runs away crying, and even more when she is taken by the lizard, Peter catches up with the Lizard in an alleyway, Pete says: what are you doing out of the zoo? and all of a sudden a mysterious figure swoops down, Pete says this time, let me guess ure names the fish bowl man? but the Pete is whacked but the lizard into mysterio's arm and knocked out, Mysterio grabs MJ and take in the other hand has Pete, the Lizard and Mysterio lock MJ and Pete in a room, where Peter apologizes to Mj for what he did, but she pulls him in for long kiss, but then, the Lizard destroys the wall and attacks Peter, but Peter and the Lizard have one of the shortest fights ever as Peter pushes the Lizard down out of the window onto a fence, killing him, Peter then checks if MJ is ok. she is injured, but to make matters worse Mysterio is back, and grabs Mj by the neck out of the window, and mutters to her, I loved you, but now im gonna love watching you die! and she is about to fall until Peter webs her and pulls her in. Mysterio and Peter go at it, Peters mask is ripped off and Quentin still doesnt see who Spider-man is as Mj jumps on fish bowl head and he falls out of the window with MJ, Peter jumps out with her and grabs her and then it goes into Peter and MJ in the final swinging scene together. But it isnt over as small time robber Kletus Kassidy is about to steal something from Doc Conors lab when something springs up onto his face.
CREDITS.
Note: i think this is my weakest attempt yet, what do you say?
A great dark and vile subplot tie in with a Lizard story line.
Spider-Man 5 (P.S: i make these up as i go along and i dont plan em)
The film starts from space and then zooms down into a dark room with a dark figure in say: whats this? mwuhahaha, i feel the strength, awesome!, all of a sudden it swoops out of the window and jumps from building to building through New York, all of a sudden it sees soemthing with a person, its Spider-man and MJ, Pete is about to propose, the figure says: Hey! I object! HAHAHA, and swoops down, knocking the two off of their feet, Spidey calls, RUN! and MJ doesnt hesitate, all of a sudden the thing comes out of the shadows, Spider-Man says: you cant have a symbiote, you just cant! and the thing says, yes and we arent just a symbiote! we are what we are about to cause CARNAGE! Kassidy is no more, so let the Carnage begin! Pete quickly kicks Carnage in the stomach and swings away, backing out and thinking about Kassidy, but, the camera moves to Doc Connors' old lab, Carnage is sitting and says to himself, I gotta kill that Spider, or I cant be the biggest criminal EVER! and pull off the worlds biggest heist! I know how to beat the bug! And the camera then pulls back into space and to the space shuttle of John Jameson, who is on his way home with a precious gem, little does he know. that like Connors he is to undergo a transformation, into, MANWOLF! then he says: wait what is this vibration? oh my god all this hair! whats happening to meeeeeeeee...............howl!!!!!!!!!!
it is now 3/5 of the way through the film and Peter has given the question to MJ and they are getting married in a Manhatten church, SMASH the window breaks and Carnage says once again! I object! and grabs MJ seconds before the are married 100%, he take her to the top of the Manhatten bridge, out of nowhere a rocket come falling through the air, Carnage drops Mary Jane on one of the pole to await her fate. the screen fades with a piercing scream Peter then looks down at MJ sobbing, she says Peter, it missed the bridge, Peter then looks at the river "oh" they then swing away to be cut short by Carnage who is about to kill them but, is killed himself by remains of the rocket falling, if the sound wasnt enough the heat was too intense for Carnage as he falls into the river. behind MJ and Pete, there is a big howl and ManWolf stands there, grabs a piece of the rocket and swings it, misses and then Peter then hits him in the back and starts a fight, it ends with police surrounding ManWolf but he picks them off one by one, Pete sneaks up and hits him with the rocket reamins trapping him underneath, its now morning and ManWolf transforms into John Jameson, but then like Carnage, he is taking too much and dies.
Peter and MJ are then married and go for a swing throuh New York, Peter then sees something in an alleyway, remembering about the Lizard he checks it out, but instead of a lizard there is Doc Connors, Peter and MJ cry and hold eachother, meanwhile a small time criminal is going big as he becomes the Rhino. the camera then zooms out to space and the credits roll.
NOTE: I am no good at endings but I think that went pretty well, by the way, I might start a sinister 6 plot for number 6 aswell startin wit rhino.
Oh and that was better than mi 1st story
Well I hope yall like this idea but overall i dont know much about spiderman
and Spider-Man 2.1!
In the 5th they should have peter and MJ engaged and at the end married and Conners turnig into the lizard but to do that he goes to the everglades to make the antidote itall happens like the comic
The 6th should have the fantastic 4 and the hulk with the Chameleon and kraven the Hunter
The 7th should be about spidergirl peter and MJ's daughter
And the other villians should fought byspiderman and spider girl and spider womam could pop up somewhere.
And dont think im making this up... I found it out.
Clue:The small piece of Venom escapes out of Dr conners lab and will return in 6......
And dont think im making this up... I found it out.
Clue:The small piece of Venom escapes out of Dr conners lab and will return in 6.......so Venom gives birth to Carnage in 6!! 5 is chameleon and mysterio.
shocker and lizard
or
carnage and lizard
I know this for a fact. 4 has normal scorpion and 6 has Venom 2
Lizardman and venom plus carnage becuase really wouldnt you think carnage and venom together would cuase destruction? plus the chaos from a rampage from Lizardman, anyway thats only my opinion.
isnt Carnage, thats venom. that piece of the
symbiote gives birth to carnage! Which could go on Cletus Kasady!
spidey 6 - villians chameleo (mix of lizard and rhino) and hob goblin
spidey 6 - villians definately venom and carnage hands down!!!!
these were some opinions belive me i've got so many more and there could be so much potential (im my opinion) with these villians it introduces, mixes and re introduces lots of villians.
P.s nobody that i've seen has mentioned morbius and shriek they could b sikkkkkkkkk. Ok i agree mysterio would b crap, we've had a lot of goblins, sandman and venom should definately return, carnage, hob gob, hydroman, lizard, shocker &/or electro n maybe kraven should be in the nxt films plus shriek n morbius. helllllllllll no to vulture n if any of the current actors or directors n stuff quit i'll b well pissed!
If they have difficulties with vilalins, maybe they will bring him back, as most people liked him.
piece of the symbiote gives birth to carnage. By the way if you want to know what happens in 5.
(I know this for a fact so dont bother saying im wrong)
4: Kinpin, Lizard & Scorpion.
5: Kinpin, Chameleon, Kinpin & Mysterio(good)
6: Venom 2 & maybe Carnage!
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Did you hear about 4, 5 & 6!
(I know that for a fact)
But i know what happens and it does fit in...
4: Kinpin because there is no-one to run ozcorp and he buys it.Scorpion because in kinpin makes him and lizard.
5:Chameleon, he's kinpin's hitman and mysterio as a super hero that hates spiderman and Kinpin.
6: Venom because the small symbiote bonds with mac gargan.
Spiderman but i think in the end mysterio will team up with spiderman to take down the kinpin.
And please no Kraven. He's worse than Lizard. How about Black Cat? That's not a bad Idea. Hobgoblin would be good, just not in 4 since the first and third had Goblins.
And please no Kraven. He's worse than Lizard. How about Black Cat? That's not a bad Idea. Hobgoblin would be good, just not in 4 since the first and third had Goblins (but how was harry a Goblin?).
This means war!
replicates a new sybiote which goes to the serial killer Cletus Casity who becomes Carnage. Spider-man stops a robery that
was set by the Kingpin. Then Venom attacks and they have a fight. Spider-man escapes and then Carnage attacks Venom and knocks him out. Carnage takes him to the kingpin who threatened Venom
with a bomb that he attatched to him that could explode in a touch
of a button. Meanwhile Spider-man sees the news that Flint Marko committed suicide because Venom killed his daughter and wife.
Venom and Carnage attack and capture Spider-man. While Carnage and Kingpin are talking, Venom Breacks the bomb and make an explosion. The Kingpin escapes so it's every man for himself. Spidey and Venom escape. Carnage kidnaps Gwen Stacy who Peter loves and Brock's love for her staid on the Symbiote. Venom and Spidey team up in an uneasy alliance to save her. Carnage kills her. Venom face Carnage and they tear eachother up. Spider-man defeats the Kingpin and then saves Venom from Carnage then destroys the place killing himself and Venom. Spidey escpaes and has no relationship again.
replicates a new sybiote which goes to the serial killer Cletus Casity who becomes Carnage. Spider-man stops a robery that
was set by the Kingpin. Then Venom attacks and they have a fight. Spider-man escapes and then Carnage attacks Venom and knocks him out. Carnage takes him to the kingpin who threatened Venom
with a bomb that he attatched to him that could explode in a touch
of a button. Meanwhile Spider-man sees the news that Flint Marko committed suicide because Venom killed his daughter and wife.
Venom and Carnage attack and capture Spider-man. While Carnage and Kingpin are talking, Venom Breacks the bomb and make an explosion. The Kingpin escapes so it's every man for himself. Spidey and Venom escape. Carnage kidnaps Gwen Stacy who Peter loves and Brock's love for her staid on the Symbiote. Venom and Spidey team up in an uneasy alliance to save her. Carnage kills her. Venom face Carnage and they tear eachother up. Spider-man defeats the Kingpin and then saves Venom from Carnage then destroys the place killing himself and Venom. Spidey escpaes and is alone again.
Sand doesnt cancel out water either, so he'd be of no use to Spidey.
Carnage, Lizard, and Electro, are the top candidates for me.
Spidey 6 just has Venom
4: The lizard and maybe scorpion
5: Mysterio and chameleon
6: The symbiote bonded with mac gargan out of his suit to make Venom 2.
I found this out by watching the films
The scorpion gets arrested after a while gets the scorpion suit taken off then in 6 The small piace of the symbiote bonds with him........Understand now
Kingping and Carnage. Then in five, how about the sinister six
with Doc ock, Mysterio, Electro, Vulture, Hobgaoblin and Lizard. Then in six could be green Goblin returning, Jackal and Black
cat. That way all the major villains are in movies.
Then Venom, Harry or Green Goblin
I think that Lizardman and Carnage should be in the next one, they didn't really show Vemons true colours during the third film as he was near the end of the film, because they used black spidey in most of the film, so they should make up for it using carnage. Perhaps vemon could make a comback and battle carnage.
Doc Ock could still be alive, he was a good and an original character. I think Harry should get killed or not show up in the film as the green goblin.
Lizardman has been brought up several times during all 3 films. Everyone can point him out in the fioms so he definately deserves to be on the film.
I think that Lizardman and Carnage should be in the next one, they didn't really show Vemons true colours during the third film as he was near the end of the film, because they used black spidey in most of the film, so they should make up for it using carnage. Perhaps vemon could make a comback and battle carnage.
Doc Ock could still be alive, he was a good and an original character. I think Harry should get killed or not show up in the film as the green goblin.
Lizardman has been brought up several times during all 3 films. Everyone can point him out in the films so he definately deserves to be on the film.
So it could be Man-Wolf,you never know.
besides like i already said why do we really care this much?
just wait for the movie to come out in 09 so yeah man stop
being morons.
(nod)
scene 1-Opening Credits
scene 2- Peter starring at Harry’s grave sadly.
"Harry" he says as one tear drop falls to the gravestone.
peter walks off with a monologue on being Spiderman and his powers and responsibility's.
scene 3- scene cuts to a lowly bar in Russia shows one largely built man with a leather coat telling a story to many others.
the built man talks
"I was always to be a hunter,was to always be ready"
"my mother committed suicide when I was young, she couldn't take care of me. It was my fault she died. My father remarried a new women quickly who was already pregnant by him. I was angry at him for his unfaithfulness to my mother, so I ran away."
" I lived in the jungle, it was my new home. I was only a boy at the time, but I lived in the jungle until my 20's."
" And one day my father had found me, brought me back home. I met the my half-brother Demitri back home. He was my only friend, he was the only person i could talk to. Demitri decided to move to New York . I left my fathers house then, i was probably 30 at the time. Back in the jungle i came across a witch hut. She read my palm and told me of this amazing potion of amazing strength. She gave it to me and i drank it, i gained insane ability's and powers! no human or animal could stand in my way!"
one man from the crowd asks " what’s your name anyway?"
the lion coat man looks at him intently " the names Kraven"
scene 4- Back to spider-man, he is swinging impressively through new York, people point and cheer as he goes by. He finally stops at his new apartment, where Mary Jane is waiting for him. He gets there and throws off his mask to kiss her. They talk about things and peter asks her to dinner, later she accepts and then his spider-sense goes off and he has to go yelling "i love you" just before he jumps off his balcony to swing off to the problem.
scene 5- spider man arrives at the scene, its a bank hold-up. the man has the whole back under hostage. spider man sneaks down a web line and grabs the guy but the guy is ready with a knife and slashes Spiderman's lower abdomen, spider man falls to the ground and the man dashes out of the store. Spiderman gets up quickly and follows him, the man steals a car and Spiderman swings after him.
once he finally catches up, he grabs the car by two web lines from a building and yanks it up. Spiderman brings the entire car on the roof of a sky scraper and then webs the guy up just as the police arrive to haul him away.
scene 6- Screen shows a large building from bottom to top eventualy it says "Raven-Croft Asylum". Screen shows a guard slowly approaching a receptionist, “ the patient is Cletus Kasadyâ€Â
“bring him inâ€Â
5 guards roll in a red-haired man screaming and shaking in a straight jacket on a stretcher.
 then oddly the man seems to be humming a children’s lullaby.
“haha†he yells madly
“my own my mother tried to kill me. My father killed her! And I killed him. What a happy family. Haha.â€Â
“shut up†yells a guard and pounds him in the stomach
Cletus stops laughing and stares at the man with crazy eyes and a large smile.
They haul him to a cell and throw him in hardly
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Scene 7- Peter in class with Dr. Connors
“ big final on Friday, good luck and get some rest everyone, class dismissedâ€Â
As peter is leaving Dr. Connors tells him to stay after and talk.
Peter does and Dr. Connors tells him about this one formula he is creating that could possibly re-grow his limb. He says he is trying to re-create what a lizard does when it loses limbs, re-grows.
Peter seems interested but he is anxious to get to the restaurant with Mary Jane
Scene 8- Next, the criminal peter had stopped in the earlier scene is in jail, we find out his name is Dmitri. He takes his one phone call to call his half-brother Kraven. He tells kraven what happened and swares Revenge on Spider-man. Kraven hesitates then accepts and heads for New York.
Scene 9- Scene of Spiderman swinging home. He stops suddenly on top of a builing as the sun goes down. He looks at the beautiful sight. His face quickly turns into a frown thinking about Harry and dives off head first and swings away
Scene 10- Back to Cletus. He is in the corner of his cell sitting and thinking when a black drop of goo falls on his shoe. He studies it mysteriously and picks it up, it sinks in his skin. Cletus loves the feeling, he wants more. More starts falling from the ceiling, Cletus opens his mouth and starts to drink it, it slithers down his throat. He wants more. It sinks through his whole body. He loves it, he begins to almost be swimming in it. And it quickly begins to transform him…
Scene 11- At the restaurant where Peter plans and Mary Jane are sitting. They talk about things that are going on. Life, friends, storys, their relationship, spiderman etc. once they finish peter brings her to a nearby ally. Once their peter runs around the corner. Mary Jane with says with a laugh and smile “where are you going?†until peter in his spider man suit swings down, hanging upside down. He simply says “Mary Jane Watson, Will You Marry Me?â€Â
She smiles and answers “of course!â€Â
They kiss and scene fades to black, then peters eyes grow wide as he thinks about the times he and MJ had together
Scene 12- At a busy train station, Kraven steps out of the train, he hasshades and a long trench coat made of lion along with his soul patch and mustache . He is tall and carries many bags. He walks out of the train station slowly, he reaches outside and sniffs the air. “spiders†he says to himself and continues to walk in the glass jungle known as New York.
Scene 13- Peter arrives at Aunt May's house and knocks softly on the door. She opens and peter tells her he proposed. She hugs him and they talk for a long time about life and marriage.
Scene 14- Now it is back at Ravencroft where a room of guards are lazily sitting in chairs when a very gruesome Carnage (Cletus Kasady with symboite) breaks through the wall and starts killing the guards one by one. He then jumps thought the ceiling showing pouring rain and a full moon he then escapes Ravencroft. (in New Yorks Outskirts)
Scene 15- Peter is at home and senses something. He throws on the suit and his sense brings him to Kraven on a small rooftop in the rain. Moon in the distance. Spiderman appears next to him and Kraven looks surprised.
“just who I was looking forâ€Â
“Me? Why me?â€Â
“you put my brother in jail, there’s a price to pay when you mess with my familyâ€Â
“ Brother? What? Who are you?â€Â
“Call me Kraven The Hunter†kraven says as he pounds Spiderman in the stomach. Unexpecting it Spiderman loses balance and begins to stumble. Kraven throws spidey off and jumps after him ready with his knife and stabs him. Spiderman lands a web line close-by and swings to hit him in the face and Kraven Drops the knife. Kraven grabs spider-man by the foot by Spiderman easily wiggles away and knocks him in the face. Kraven goes for his crossbow slung on his back and starts firing away. Spiderman dodges in slo-mo until one dart hits him square in the calf. It hits him when he is dangling in air and the dart makes him fall to the street below. Angered and in pain spider-man leaps back up and they fight for a while longer. Until spider-man finally gets him with a web and swigs him and thats when kraven is hanging on the edge, Spiderman leaves as kraven gets up with the felling of defeat. Kraven wipes some blood from his face
“Time to get the big gunsâ€Â
Scene 16- Peter and Mary are planning their wedding. Peter dreads all the work, but MJ is loving it. They are planning it for the upcoming weekend. They send out invitations and are preparing.
Scene 17- Dr. Connors is in his lab around midnight staring curiously at a liquid in a testtube. He smiles
“finally I have created it, and what better guinea pig then myself†he drinks the liquid and waits. Suddenly his arm starts to grow until it reforms completely like it was before.
he stares at it blankly
“oh my…. I have created a working serum for healing limbs, this is an amazing discovery! I have broken a wall through modern science!â€Â
He tests his new arm and it works perfectly he is happy and heads home from the lab
Scene 18- The daily bugle. Peter walks in with new pictures of spider man and Kraven. Jonah only give him $75 but peter takes it anyway, since MJ is making good money. Jonah says to put a picture of Kraven on the front page and put “ Animal Activists beware: We have your worst nightmareâ€Â
Scene 19- Dr. Connors gets home to his wife and shows her his new arm. She is amazed, bewildered and happy of course. As Dr. Connors is sitting on his bed, he notices some skin on his new arm has scales on it. He stares with disgust and puts some cream on it, thinking it’s a small reaction to the formula
Scene 20- one day before the wedding. Peter has his Tux and is with Aunt May shopping. May is very excited and is talking fast and long all about the wedding and marriage and she even talks a little about Uncle Ben.
Scene 21- The Wedding. Yes this is one largely dramatic Scene. They get married on a rooftop in queens. There is a after party and everyone is there. Aunt May, Jonah, Robbie, Betty, Gwen Stacy etc..
Scene 22- Honey moon. Peter carries MJ in an expensive hotel room with champagne and the whole works.
They are celebrating and happy as ever.
The next day peter awakes with MJ beside him in the bed as his spidey sense starts to go off as Carnage is on the roof. He tells MJ that he'll be right back. Peter sneaks up on to the roof on the holtel as Spiderman. they fight for a little with carnage doing some damge on peter then a wierd noise comes and carnage has his hands on his ears screaming then he jumps away.
Scene 23- Dr. Connors awakes and his wife is still asleep he feels un-naturally dry he looks in the mirror and his whole body is made of scales. He skin is rough and sharp. His movements seem awkward and unbalanced. He thinks to call 911 but they wouldn’t know what to do. He thinks to wake his wife, but she wouldn’t understand. So he leaves to go back to the lab to try and figure it all out.
Scene 24- The scene is at central park in a tower. Kraven is standingon a building peering down at the park below.
“He has humiliated me, I have never lost a battle. I must be out of my prime†Kraven says
“ I have trained my whole life to never lose and I didn’t intend too†Kraven Continues
“ I have grown ill and I know I will die soon, but before I do. I have to kill him, It will be my last hunt and it must be doneâ€Â
With that he loads his weapons. Gets his traps, and gets ready to kill spider-man.
Scene 25- Once Dr. Connors reaches his lab, His skin is a Green shade. He yells in anger and begins to transform to a lizard. His man scream changes to a low growl of a monster.
“no!†the doctor screams
Then all of Dr. Connors thoughts leave his head.
He becomes taken over by his new mind.
The Lizard.
The Lizard has one task.
To destroy all humans to leave only reptiles.
The Lizard wants the world to be only inhabited by its own kind.
With that,
The Lizard sets off on its task.
Meanwhile Back at the home apartment Spider-man senses the lizard.
He tells Mary Jane and leaves quickly
Scene 26- Peter sees the lizard charging down a street on rampage and throws on his suit to follow.
“what is that thing?â€Â
He wonders.
He attacks it from behind but it lashes out with its tail and knocks peter flying into a skyscraper shattering the glass on it.
“whoa†peter manages from shock.
He gets back up and the thing jumps on his body and starts to shred at his suit spider man kicks him off and the lizard bites Spiderman’s leg, it uses that to hurl him straight in the air. Spider man falls to the ground and shots a web ball at its face. The Lizard eats it and smashes Spiderman in the gut knocking the wind out of him.
They fight for a while longer until the lizard screams and turns human again.
“Dr. connors?†spider man says
He throws off his mask
“its me, peter!â€Â
“peter! You have to help me. This thing is taking over my body! It was from the formula it is turning me to a lizard thing!†dr. Connors pleads
“oh no! its happening again!†he changes and leaps off
“ I have to do something!†peter says chasing it.
Scene 27- Spiderman loses The Lizard and stops on a roof. To his surprise Kraven is waiting behind him.Peter turns around an Kraven puches Spider-man square in the face. Spider-man is laying on the ground, helpless and dazed.
“ You are my last prey. I will die soon, and you will be my last killâ€Â
“ For Dmitri!†kraven yells and goes for a stab.
Spider-man rolls out of the way and kicks Kraven in the chest, he uses that momentum to raise himself back up. Kraven charges at him and spider-man flips over him and webs his hands up. Kraven breaks it apart and punches him straight in the face again. He also knees him in the gut and elbows him in the side. Spider-man uses his last ounce to flip off the building and cling to the nearby building. Kraven leaps at him and spider-man dodges to the left and webs Kraven to the wall.
“get back here! You coward!†Kraven yells as spider-man continues his pursuit of The Lizard.
Scene 28- he finally finds The Lizard as it jumps through a glass window in the city. Spiderman follows it inside. The building is a tall room with a balcony. The lizard smacks spider-man with it’s tail right as he swings in causing him to fly off the balcony but he quickly fires a webline from its tail and right back in with momentum. The fight continues until The Lizard uppercuts spider-man through the ceiling into out side. Lizard grabs him with the tail and hurls him off the building. Spider-man tumbles to the ground in pain and hits in hard. He gets up painfully and walks home.
Scene 30- Back to carnage. He reached the water of the Hudson river. Carnage screams “spider-man†and leaps extremely high and lands right on the daily bugle
Inside the daily bugle everyone is working furiously on finishing the paper for the next day. Jonah sits in his office room alone. With the blinds shut for privacy. He stands up and hears heavy breathing, he opens the blind but nothings there, he turns around and he turns again then canage blast through the window knocking johnah on hiss butt. Carnage stares at Jonah in the face with huge teeth.
“where is spider-man!!?†Carnage asks
Jonah stares at him speechlessly
“You’re useless†says Carnage and throws him through the windows towards the Bugle staff.
Once Jonah falls through the paper thin wall he looks up and Carnage is already gone.
Scene 31-After Aunt May goes home, and Mary Jane is sage Peter is finally healed and starts to swing around again to get the feel back when he is slashed by a gooey axe. He falls but catches himself on a web. He looks up and sees Carnage. Carnage punches and swipes like crazy hitting spider-man about 75% of the time. Ripping his costume apart. It yells “spider-man!â€Â
Spider-man then realizes it’s the symbiote so he starts to have it follow him. While he looks for sound. He sees a loud concert going on and swings above it. Carnage follows and as he swings above the suit screams and he begins to fumble in air. Carnage falls to the street below and smashes defeated.
Scene 32- Spider-man stops on a building, crouching as a downpour of rain begins. The night finally hits and Spiderman feels satisfied until a net is thrown on him. He looks over and sees Kraven holding a rifle aiming at spider-man
“ This is the end spider-manâ€Â
“no Kraven! don’t do it!â€Â
Kraven aims at him while spider-man fumbles.
Finally kraven finds his aim spot and shoots spider-man right between the eyes, but luckily he doges it and webs the gun into a dumpster but Kraven Stabs Him and Spidey falls into a casket.
Scene 33- Kraven brings Spiderman’s body to a graveyard, with spidey still in the casket and begins to burry him in the ground but spidey kicks the casket door right in to kraven's face. they start fighting with spidey hitting a haymaker and scene ends with peter swinging away with the camera still and the camera lowers reavealing the gravestone saying:
"Here Lies the Spider. Slain by the Hunter"
Scene 34- Mary Jane stares off the apartment balcony
“Peter where are you?â€Â
She asks
Scene 35- shows the grave, with pouring rain and then the ground rumbles.
Suddenly Kraven Jumps up ,emerging from a pile of dirt.
He is breathing heavily.
Spider-man!! he yells
He oeers through new york looking for spidey. Kraven in insane rage. “I tranquilized you†Kraven said
“ this is a real bullet†and he inserts a real shell in to his rifle
“ I won spider-man, I could have killed you, but I didn’tâ€Â
“ I wonâ€Â
“ my mother said I was insane†Kraven then puts the rifle in his mouth and ends his life.
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Scene 36- Spider-man finds lizard to try and help. Luckily he is Dr. Connors when he finds him.
“peter!â€Â
“you must kill meâ€Â
“ I have taken innocent life’s, I will continue to do it unless you…. Kill….me..â€Â
He then transforms into the lizard.
Spider-man has no choice.
He has to kill the him.
The big fight of The lizard and him takes place in a research lab. As they fight more things break and it all starts on fire. Lizard throws many large things at spidey until finally spider-man webs a tube of acid and flings it at its face. It burns it and the lizard goes crazy and slashes Spider-man up horribly. Completely tearing the costume to a pulp. To make matters worse Carnage shows up to kill Spider-man. It turns to a 3-way fight. No teams a free for all fight in fire, it eventually makes its way outside on the streets until The Lizard grabs Carnage by the face and basically rips off his head. The Symbiote runs off and then shrivels away. A dead Cletus remains. Lizard lands on spider-mans chest to perform the same move but spider-man grabs its tail and flings it into a building. Finally with a huge heave Spiderman takes a car and smashes it though Lizard killing it. Connors appears and says “thank you†and dies.
Scene 37- He gets back home and hugs MJ and tells her everything and his spider sense goes off once again
“what now!†he yells in frustration
Scene 38- He picks up MJ and he leaves
Peter follows his sense and it oddly brings him to Aunt Mays apartment.
He rushes in and finds Aunt May on the floor, her eyes shut.
Peter stares at the body with tears in his eyes
and picks her up and runs her to the hospital.
The hospital takes her in quickly . Mary Jane and Peter wait in fear and a doctor comes out saying:
“I have some very bad news, your Aunt is dying from heart failures. Sadly she only has a day left to live, she can move so you could go be with her, on her last day.â€Â
Scene 39 - Shows a montage of scenes with her and Peter from past movies Until the music stops and it goes to them riding up the elevator to the empire state building. They reach the top and stare at the amazing view.
Aunt May starts talking
“Ben used to take me up here when we were dating. We had our first kiss up hereâ€Â
“wow I never knew that†peter says
“yup†she answers and then stares off in the distance for a really long time and finally she says:
“What is it like to swing around the city?†She asks
It takes Peter a few seconds to realize it, but then he does
She knows his secret
“how did..â€Â
“I have known for a long time peterâ€Â
“when?â€Â
“oh I just caught on one dayâ€Â
They talk more about his secret and everything around it.
Peter apologizes for not telling her earlier but May forgives him because he was only protecting her by doing it.
They leave the Empire state building
Scene 40 - back at aunt Mays they are having tea. It is the end of the day and she knows her time is soon. Then, she feels her heart and she starts to sweat
“I will call 911!†Mary Jane yells
“no, no more doctors I want to pass away here on my bed.†says Aunt May
Peter carries aunt may to her bed. She grasps his hand. And the grasps Mary Jane’s hand.
“There is no greater responsibility than marriage.
Peter Parker, You’re as good as a man as your uncle Ben. No kinder, more decent soul ever lived, if he was here he’d let you know how proud of you he is.â€Â
“Take good care of Mary Jane and Mary Jane take good care of peter.â€Â
Peter says “remember when you used to read me peter pan every night†he says with many tears. Peter shares quotes of the book with Aunt May and May closes her eyes during.
Finally Aunt may says
“ thank you peter. I am tired, and Ben is waiting for me. It’s my time.â€Â
With those words Aunt May dies and peter sobs over her lifeless body
Scene 41- Graveyard. Peter stares at the graves:
May Parker
She Taught Us To Love
Ben Parker
He was Loved.
Peter has a ending monologue
Scene-42 End Credits
Spidey 6
Spidey swings through the city and chillingly remembers Dr. Connors final words."Give it up,Peter,before you get killed!"
Peter enters his apartment and Mary Jane runs in and announces she is pregnant.Spidey is happy,until he sees that Sandman has been stopped during a robbery and put in jail.He is determined to set him free,as they made friends and Penny must get money to be healthy again.Ironically,Mysterio,Electro,Kraven,Sandman and Vulture are in the same cell.They sit around a table,all discussing how Spiderman got them into jail.Sandman blames him,because if Spiderman hadn't stopped him the first time,he wouldn't have has to steal once again.Spiderman goes to the jail and tries to break down the wall,but is flung out of the way by a mechanical arm.He is unconscious and Doc Ock breaks down the wall and lets the villans free.
"Follow me"he says.
But Spiderman wakes up and dives onto Doc Ock's back.Doc Ock throws him off and the Six prepare to fight him.Electro blasts him into the air and Kraven slices him with a sword.Mysterio sprays a gas which disables his spider-sense and Vulture swoops and grabs him.They start fighting in the air.Doc Ock grabs Spidey out of the air and starts squeezing his body.Spidey webs him in the face,but Sandman hits him with a large sand-fist.
"I thought we were friends!"Spiderman exclaims.
"So did I!"shouts Sandman.
Doc Ock then wipes the web off his face and grabs Spidey.The villans use their powers all at once and aim for Spidey.But he dodges them and swings away.Their powers hit Doc Ock who shouts"Fools!He is escaping!"
But he is already gone.
Spidey comes home with bruises and is bleeding badly.
"This has got to stop"Mary Jane insists.
He says it is okay.He then sobs and remembers Aunt May and Uncle Ben.He knows Mary Jane and the unborn May Parker are his only family left.He then goes to the Bugle and Jonah is upset with him for not getting pictures of Spidey's defeat.Peter is in no mood.He grabs Jonah and says enough is enough.He starts to walk out,but turns around and grabs J.J. by the collar.
"You won't be happy until Spidey is dead,will you?'asks Peter.
"Get your hands off me!"shouts J.J.
Peter lets go and walks off.
"Well maybe soon he will be!"Peter shouts as he walks out.
Peter sees that his outburst was caused by disappointment.He agrees with himself that he will confront the new team and prevent disaster.
But they are underground in Kraven's old lair in the sewers.They plan to torture Spidey,by going for M.J.Electro is sent on this mission.He goes to the apartment and electrifies Mary-Jane.She flies into the wall and Electro warns her that unless Peter meets up with them,she will die.Peter refuses when he is told,because he fears defeat.Mary-Jane begs him to and says"Please go get them,tiger"
He says no and swings away.He does not come back for ages.When he finally does come back,Mary-Jane has been packing her bags to move in with her mum.Peter begs her to stay and she says ok,but he has to stop the baddies.He goes to see Aunt May and Uncle Ben's graves and sees they have been smashed and the flowers ruined.He sobs and finds a note and the floor.
It says:
"Ready for the final battle?"
He doesn't know where to go for this final battle and sits there listening to the radio,but there are still no clues.Mary-Jane goes out and the Sinister Six confront her in an alleyway.They see she is pregnant and Doc Ock says"Get her boys"
But Sandman cannot bear to see her injured,as he knows how upset he would be if Penny was ever hurt.He stands in the way,but Kraven stabs him.The sword goes through him,but Electro electrocutes him.He is hurt for a moment, but stands up.Vulture starts fighting him and so do the rest of them.Mary-Jane escapes.It all ends when Sandman says"Sorry Penny"and turns human.He then gets killed by Doc Ock,who is furious they did not get any closer to hurting Spiderman.They then decide on facing him at a final showdown with Spidey to end it all.Mary-Jane is warned if she gets hurt one more time,the baby will die.Spiderman phones up someone and Mary-Jane wonders who it is.Peter says it is just an old friend.Doc Ock then phones up Spidey and says"Spiderman?Jonah wants a word with you!"Jonah then starts screaming down the phone.Spiderman puts on his costume,but stupidly leaves Mary-Jane un-protected.He enters the Bugle,but no-one is there.He tries to walk out,but the building is surrounded by a load of Mysterio's.Spidey runs upstairs,but Vulture knocks his out.Before he goes unconsious,the Six surround him,without Electro.
"Where is Electro?"he asks.
"Visiting Mary-Jane"laughs Doc Ock.
Jonah is then set free and instead of helping Spiderman he runs away.In Spidey's home,Mary-Jane is about to be killed by Electro,but Black Cat saves her and kills Electro.She then runs off to help Spidey.In a room of the Bugle,the villans argue how Spidey should be killed and fight.Vulture's beak hit's a gas pipe and one of Jonah's cigarettes is still alight.The Bugle goes on fire and Mysterio's holographs are blown away and he is arrested.Vulture then starts battling Spiderman,but his wings set alight.He burns to death,but not before pushing Spiderman out of the window.Spiderman is battered and torn and he starts web-swinging to his apartment.But Doc Ock looks out of the window and grabs Spiderman.They engage in fisticuffs and Doc Ock goes through the floor.Spiderman turns away,but goes back for his old friend.Spiderman takes him to the top of the building and they argue furiously.
"Mary Jane is dead"laughs Doc Ock.
"If she dare is..."starts Peter.
"You'll do what?"he asks"It's ended,everyone's dying and the flames are getting higher"
Peter breaks down and starts sobbing.
"But before we both die,I will finally win!"shouts Doc Ock.
But before he kills him,Peter has a last word to say.
"Remember what you said before you saved the city?"asks Peter"You said I will not die a monster.Think of Rosie,Doc."
Doc Ock screams in anguish.
"Don't you dare!"
He picks up Spiderman and breaks his legs.
"Goodnight,spider"he says.
But Black Cat stabs him with a knife.
Peter is pleased to see her and he smiles.
"Kraven and Electro are dead.Kraven killed himself"she says.
"I don't care.Is M.J. safe?"he asks.
Black Cat scowls at this name.She then grabs hold of Spidey and kisses him.Peter responds and they go back to Peter's apartment.
They wake up in the morning in Peter's bed.Felicia smiles,but Peter pushes her away.She kisses him and he responds for a minute,but then feels guilty.She gets up and asks"What's wrong?"
"I'm sorry"he says"I love M.J."
She gets up and puts on her Black Cat costume.She winks at him and he gets up and puts on his Spidey costume.They share one last kiss and she says"I'll be here if you want to carry on"
"No,thanks"he tells her"I'm fine with M.J."
She leaves and Mary-Jane comes in.
"Is everything alright?'she asks"
"Yes it is"
The film ends with May being born and Spidey swinging through the city.
What do you think?But exclude the parts with Kraven and it would be good,huh?
thanx for the leak. i dont think that will be the movie though because some of that stuff is a little graphic for a pg 13 movie like ripping off Carnages head and Kraven killing himself. If it was an R rated movie that would be some sick stuff man but unfortuantly little kids are going to see this movie. Lets hear more about Transformers 2 :)
Spider man 4
scene 1-Opening Credits
scene 2- Peter starring at Harry’s grave sadly.
“Harry†he says as one tear drop falls to the gravestone.
peter walks off with a monologue on being Spiderman and his powers and responsibility’s.
scene 3- scene cuts to a lowly bar in Russia shows one largely built man with a leather coat telling a story to many others.
the built man talks
“I was always to be a hunter,was to always be readyâ€Â
“my mother committed suicide when I was young, she couldn’t take care of me. It was my fault she died. My father remarried a new women quickly who was already pregnant by him. I was angry at him for his unfaithfulness to my mother, so I ran away.â€Â
†I lived in the jungle, it was my new home. I was only a boy at the time, but I lived in the jungle until my 20’s.â€Â
†And one day my father had found me, brought me back home. I met the my half-brother Demitri back home. He was my only friend, he was the only person i could talk to. Demitri decided to move to New York . I left my fathers house then, i was probably 30 at the time. Back in the jungle i came across a witch hut. She read my palm and told me of this amazing potion of amazing strength. She gave it to me and i drank it, i gained insane ability’s and powers! no human or animal could stand in my way!â€Â
one man from the crowd asks †what’s your name anyway?â€Â
the lion coat man looks at him intently †the names Kravenâ€Â
scene 4- Back to spider-man, he is swinging impressively through new York, people point and cheer as he goes by. He finally stops at his new apartment, where Mary Jane is waiting for him. He gets there and throws off his mask to kiss her. They talk about things and peter asks her to dinner, later she accepts and then his spider-sense goes off and he has to go yelling “i love you†just before he jumps off his balcony to swing off to the problem.
scene 5- spider man arrives at the scene, its a bank hold-up. the man has the whole back under hostage. spider man sneaks down a web line and grabs the guy but the guy is ready with a knife and slashes Spiderman’s lower abdomen, spider man falls to the ground and the man dashes out of the store. Spiderman gets up quickly and follows him, the man steals a car and Spiderman swings after him.
once he finally catches up, he grabs the car by two web lines from a building and yanks it up. Spiderman brings the entire car on the roof of a sky scraper and then webs the guy up just as the police arrive to haul him away.
scene 6- Screen shows a large building from bottom to top eventualy it says “Raven-Croft Asylumâ€Â. Screen shows a guard slowly approaching a receptionist, “ the patient is Cletus Kasadyâ€Â
“bring him inâ€Â
5 guards roll in a red-haired man screaming and shaking in a straight jacket on a stretcher.
then oddly the man seems to be humming a children’s lullaby.
“haha†he yells madly
“my own my mother tried to kill me. My father killed her! And I killed him. What a happy family. Haha.â€Â
“shut up†yells a guard and pounds him in the stomach
Cletus stops laughing and stares at the man with crazy eyes and a large smile.
They haul him to a cell and throw him in hardly
Scene 7- Peter in class with Dr. Connors
“ big final on Friday, good luck and get some rest everyone, class dismissedâ€Â
As peter is leaving Dr. Connors tells him to stay after and talk.
Peter does and Dr. Connors tells him about this one formula he is creating that could possibly re-grow his limb. He says he is trying to re-create what a lizard does when it loses limbs, re-grows.
Peter seems interested but he is anxious to get to the restaurant with Mary Jane
Scene 8- Next, the criminal peter had stopped in the earlier scene is in jail, we find out his name is Dmitri. He takes his one phone call to call his half-brother Kraven. He tells kraven what happened and swares Revenge on Spider-man. Kraven hesitates then accepts and heads for New York.
Scene 9- Scene of Spiderman swinging home. He stops suddenly on top of a builing as the sun goes down. He looks at the beautiful sight. His face quickly turns into a frown thinking about Harry and dives off head first and swings away
Scene 10- Back to Cletus. He is in the corner of his cell sitting and thinking when a black drop of goo falls on his shoe. He studies it mysteriously and picks it up, it sinks in his skin. Cletus loves the feeling, he wants more. More starts falling from the ceiling, Cletus opens his mouth and starts to drink it, it slithers down his throat. He wants more. It sinks through his whole body. He loves it, he begins to almost be swimming in it. And it quickly begins to transform him…
Scene 11- At the restaurant where Peter plans and Mary Jane are sitting. They talk about things that are going on. Life, friends, storys, their relationship, spiderman etc. once they finish peter brings her to a nearby ally. Once their peter runs around the corner. Mary Jane with says with a laugh and smile “where are you going?†until peter in his spider man suit swings down, hanging upside down. He simply says “Mary Jane Watson, Will You Marry Me?â€Â
She smiles and answers “of course!â€Â
They kiss and scene fades to black, then peters eyes grow wide as he thinks about the times he and MJ had together
Scene 12- At a busy train station, Kraven steps out of the train, he hasshades and a long trench coat made of lion along with his soul patch and mustache . He is tall and carries many bags. He walks out of the train station slowly, he reaches outside and sniffs the air. “spiders†he says to himself and continues to walk in the glass jungle known as New York.
Scene 13- Peter arrives at Aunt May’s house and knocks softly on the door. She opens and peter tells her he proposed. She hugs him and they talk for a long time about life and marriage.
Scene 14- Now it is back at Ravencroft where a room of guards are lazily sitting in chairs when a very gruesome Carnage (Cletus Kasady with symboite) breaks through the wall and starts killing the guards one by one. He then jumps thought the ceiling showing pouring rain and a full moon he then escapes Ravencroft. (in New Yorks Outskirts)
Scene 15- Peter is at home and senses something. He throws on the suit and his sense brings him to Kraven on a small rooftop in the rain. Moon in the distance. Spiderman appears next to him and Kraven looks surprised.
“just who I was looking forâ€Â
“Me? Why me?â€Â
“you put my brother in jail, there’s a price to pay when you mess with my familyâ€Â
“ Brother? What? Who are you?â€Â
“Call me Kraven The Hunter†kraven says as he pounds Spiderman in the stomach. Unexpecting it Spiderman loses balance and begins to stumble. Kraven throws spidey off and jumps after him ready with his knife and stabs him. Spiderman lands a web line close-by and swings to hit him in the face and Kraven Drops the knife. Kraven grabs spider-man by the foot by Spiderman easily wiggles away and knocks him in the face. Kraven goes for his crossbow slung on his back and starts firing away. Spiderman dodges in slo-mo until one dart hits him square in the calf. It hits him when he is dangling in air and the dart makes him fall to the street below. Angered and in pain spider-man leaps back up and they fight for a while longer. Until spider-man finally gets him with a web and swigs him and thats when kraven is hanging on the edge, Spiderman leaves as kraven gets up with the felling of defeat. Kraven wipes some blood from his face
“Time to get the big gunsâ€Â
Scene 16- Peter and Mary are planning their wedding. Peter dreads all the work, but MJ is loving it. They are planning it for the upcoming weekend. They send out invitations and are preparing.
Scene 17- Dr. Connors is in his lab around midnight staring curiously at a liquid in a testtube. He smiles
“finally I have created it, and what better guinea pig then myself†he drinks the liquid and waits. Suddenly his arm starts to grow until it reforms completely like it was before.
he stares at it blankly
“oh my…. I have created a working serum for healing limbs, this is an amazing discovery! I have broken a wall through modern science!â€Â
He tests his new arm and it works perfectly he is happy and heads home from the lab
Scene 18- The daily bugle. Peter walks in with new pictures of spider man and Kraven. Jonah only give him $75 but peter takes it anyway, since MJ is making good money. Jonah says to put a picture of Kraven on the front page and put “ Animal Activists beware: We have your worst nightmareâ€Â
Scene 19- Dr. Connors gets home to his wife and shows her his new arm. She is amazed, bewildered and happy of course. As Dr. Connors is sitting on his bed, he notices some skin on his new arm has scales on it. He stares with disgust and puts some cream on it, thinking it’s a small reaction to the formula
Scene 20- one day before the wedding. Peter has his Tux and is with Aunt May shopping. May is very excited and is talking fast and long all about the wedding and marriage and she even talks a little about Uncle Ben.
Scene 21- The Wedding. Yes this is one largely dramatic Scene. They get married on a rooftop in queens. There is a after party and everyone is there. Aunt May, Jonah, Robbie, Betty, Gwen Stacy etc..
Scene 22- Honey moon. Peter carries MJ in an expensive hotel room with champagne and the whole works.
They are celebrating and happy as ever.
The next day peter awakes with MJ beside him in the bed as his spidey sense starts to go off as Carnage is on the roof. He tells MJ that he’ll be right back. Peter sneaks up on to the roof on the holtel as Spiderman. they fight for a little with carnage doing some damge on peter then a wierd noise comes and carnage has his hands on his ears screaming then he jumps away.
Scene 23- Dr. Connors awakes and his wife is still asleep he feels un-naturally dry he looks in the mirror and his whole body is made of scales. He skin is rough and sharp. His movements seem awkward and unbalanced. He thinks to call 911 but they wouldn’t know what to do. He thinks to wake his wife, but she wouldn’t understand. So he leaves to go back to the lab to try and figure it all out.
Scene 24- The scene is at central park in a tower. Kraven is standingon a building peering down at the park below.
“He has humiliated me, I have never lost a battle. I must be out of my prime†Kraven says
“ I have trained my whole life to never lose and I didn’t intend too†Kraven Continues
“ I have grown ill and I know I will die soon, but before I do. I have to kill him, It will be my last hunt and it must be doneâ€Â
With that he loads his weapons. Gets his traps, and gets ready to kill spider-man.
Scene 25- Once Dr. Connors reaches his lab, His skin is a Green shade. He yells in anger and begins to transform to a lizard. His man scream changes to a low growl of a monster.
“no!†the doctor screams
Then all of Dr. Connors thoughts leave his head.
He becomes taken over by his new mind.
The Lizard.
The Lizard has one task.
To destroy all humans to leave only reptiles.
The Lizard wants the world to be only inhabited by its own kind.
With that,
The Lizard sets off on its task.
Meanwhile Back at the home apartment Spider-man senses the lizard.
He tells Mary Jane and leaves quickly
Scene 26- Peter sees the lizard charging down a street on rampage and throws on his suit to follow.
“what is that thing?â€Â
He wonders.
He attacks it from behind but it lashes out with its tail and knocks peter flying into a skyscraper shattering the glass on it.
“whoa†peter manages from shock.
He gets back up and the thing jumps on his body and starts to shred at his suit spider man kicks him off and the lizard bites Spiderman’s leg, it uses that to hurl him straight in the air. Spider man falls to the ground and shots a web ball at its face. The Lizard eats it and smashes Spiderman in the gut knocking the wind out of him.
They fight for a while longer until the lizard screams and turns human again.
“Dr. connors?†spider man says
He throws off his mask
“its me, peter!â€Â
“peter! You have to help me. This thing is taking over my body! It was from the formula it is turning me to a lizard thing!†dr. Connors pleads
“oh no! its happening again!†he changes and leaps off
“ I have to do something!†peter says chasing it.
Scene 27- Spiderman loses The Lizard and stops on a roof. To his surprise Kraven is waiting behind him.Peter turns around an Kraven puches Spider-man square in the face. Spider-man is laying on the ground, helpless and dazed.
“ You are my last prey. I will die soon, and you will be my last killâ€Â
“ For Dmitri!†kraven yells and goes for a stab.
Spider-man rolls out of the way and kicks Kraven in the chest, he uses that momentum to raise himself back up. Kraven charges at him and spider-man flips over him and webs his hands up. Kraven breaks it apart and punches him straight in the face again. He also knees him in the gut and elbows him in the side. Spider-man uses his last ounce to flip off the building and cling to the nearby building. Kraven leaps at him and spider-man dodges to the left and webs Kraven to the wall.
“get back here! You coward!†Kraven yells as spider-man continues his pursuit of The Lizard.
Scene 28- he finally finds The Lizard as it jumps through a glass window in the city. Spiderman follows it inside. The building is a tall room with a balcony. The lizard smacks spider-man with it’s tail right as he swings in causing him to fly off the balcony but he quickly fires a webline from its tail and right back in with momentum. The fight continues until The Lizard uppercuts spider-man through the ceiling into out side. Lizard grabs him with the tail and hurls him off the building. Spider-man tumbles to the ground in pain and hits in hard. He gets up painfully and walks home.
Scene 30- Back to carnage. He reached the water of the Hudson river. Carnage screams “spider-man†and leaps extremely high and lands right on the daily bugle
Inside the daily bugle everyone is working furiously on finishing the paper for the next day. Jonah sits in his office room alone. With the blinds shut for privacy. He stands up and hears heavy breathing, he opens the blind but nothings there, he turns around and he turns again then canage blast through the window knocking johnah on hiss butt. Carnage stares at Jonah in the face with huge teeth.
“where is spider-man!!?†Carnage asks
Jonah stares at him speechlessly
“You’re useless†says Carnage and throws him through the windows towards the Bugle staff.
Once Jonah falls through the paper thin wall he looks up and Carnage is already gone.
Scene 31-After Aunt May goes home, and Mary Jane is sage Peter is finally healed and starts to swing around again to get the feel back when he is slashed by a gooey axe. He falls but catches himself on a web. He looks up and sees Carnage. Carnage punches and swipes like crazy hitting spider-man about 75% of the time. Ripping his costume apart. It yells “spider-man!â€Â
Spider-man then realizes it’s the symbiote so he starts to have it follow him. While he looks for sound. He sees a loud concert going on and swings above it. Carnage follows and as he swings above the suit screams and he begins to fumble in air. Carnage falls to the street below and smashes defeated.
Scene 32- Spider-man stops on a building, crouching as a downpour of rain begins. The night finally hits and Spiderman feels satisfied until a net is thrown on him. He looks over and sees Kraven holding a rifle aiming at spider-man
“ This is the end spider-manâ€Â
“no Kraven! don’t do it!â€Â
Kraven aims at him while spider-man fumbles.
Finally kraven finds his aim spot and shoots spider-man right between the eyes, but luckily he doges it and webs the gun into a dumpster but Kraven Stabs Him and Spidey falls into a casket.
Scene 33- Kraven brings Spiderman’s body to a graveyard, with spidey still in the casket and begins to burry him in the ground but spidey kicks the casket door right in to kraven’s face. they start fighting with spidey hitting a haymaker and scene ends with peter swinging away with the camera still and the camera lowers reavealing the gravestone saying:
“Here Lies the Spider. Slain by the Hunterâ€Â
Scene 34- Mary Jane stares off the apartment balcony
“Peter where are you?â€Â
She asks
Scene 35- shows the grave, with pouring rain and then the ground rumbles.
Suddenly Kraven Jumps up ,emerging from a pile of dirt.
He is breathing heavily.
Spider-man!! he yells
He oeers through new york looking for spidey. Kraven in insane rage. “I tranquilized you†Kraven said
“ this is a real bullet†and he inserts a real shell in to his rifle
“ I won spider-man, I could have killed you, but I didn’tâ€Â
“ I wonâ€Â
“ my mother said I was insane†Kraven then puts the rifle in his mouth and ends his life.
Scene 36- Spider-man finds lizard to try and help. Luckily he is Dr. Connors when he finds him.
“peter!â€Â
“you must kill meâ€Â
“ I have taken innocent life’s, I will continue to do it unless you…. Kill….me..â€Â
He then transforms into the lizard.
Spider-man has no choice.
He has to kill the him.
The big fight of The lizard and him takes place in a research lab. As they fight more things break and it all starts on fire. Lizard throws many large things at spidey until finally spider-man webs a tube of acid and flings it at its face. It burns it and the lizard goes crazy and slashes Spider-man up horribly. Completely tearing the costume to a pulp. To make matters worse Carnage shows up to kill Spider-man. It turns to a 3-way fight. No teams a free for all fight in fire, it eventually makes its way outside on the streets until The Lizard grabs Carnage by the face and basically rips off his head. The Symbiote runs off and then shrivels away. A dead Cletus remains. Lizard lands on spider-mans chest to perform the same move but spider-man grabs its tail and flings it into a building. Finally with a huge heave Spiderman takes a car and smashes it though Lizard killing it. Connors appears and says “thank you†and dies.
Scene 37- He gets back home and hugs MJ and tells her everything and his spider sense goes off once again
“what now!†he yells in frustration
Scene 38- He picks up MJ and he leaves
Peter follows his sense and it oddly brings him to Aunt Mays apartment.
He rushes in and finds Aunt May on the floor, her eyes shut.
Peter stares at the body with tears in his eyes
and picks her up and runs her to the hospital.
The hospital takes her in quickly . Mary Jane and Peter wait in fear and a doctor comes out saying:
“I have some very bad news, your Aunt is dying from heart failures. Sadly she only has a day left to live, she can move so you could go be with her, on her last day.â€Â
Scene 39 - Shows a montage of scenes with her and Peter from past movies Until the music stops and it goes to them riding up the elevator to the empire state building. They reach the top and stare at the amazing view.
Aunt May starts talking
“Ben used to take me up here when we were dating. We had our first kiss up hereâ€Â
“wow I never knew that†peter says
“yup†she answers and then stares off in the distance for a really long time and finally she says:
“What is it like to swing around the city?†She asks
It takes Peter a few seconds to realize it, but then he does
She knows his secret
“how did..â€Â
“I have known for a long time peterâ€Â
“when?â€Â
“oh I just caught on one dayâ€Â
They talk more about his secret and everything around it.
Peter apologizes for not telling her earlier but May forgives him because he was only protecting her by doing it.
They leave the Empire state building
Scene 40 - back at aunt Mays they are having tea. It is the end of the day and she knows her time is soon. Then, she feels her heart and she starts to sweat
“I will call 911!†Mary Jane yells
“no, no more doctors I want to pass away here on my bed.†says Aunt May
Peter carries aunt may to her bed. She grasps his hand. And the grasps Mary Jane’s hand.
“There is no greater responsibility than marriage.
Peter Parker, You’re as good as a man as your uncle Ben. No kinder, more decent soul ever lived, if he was here he’d let you know how proud of you he is.â€Â
“Take good care of Mary Jane and Mary Jane take good care of peter.â€Â
Peter says “remember when you used to read me peter pan every night†he says with many tears. Peter shares quotes of the book with Aunt May and May closes her eyes during.
Finally Aunt may says
“ thank you peter. I am tired, and Ben is waiting for me. It’s my time.â€Â
With those words Aunt May dies and peter sobs over her lifeless body
Scene 41- Graveyard. Peter stares at the graves:
May Parker
She Taught Us To Love
Ben Parker
He was Loved.
Peter has a ending monologue
Scene-42 End Credits
only kidding lol
so what do you all think of my spidey 6 plot?
Come on!Someone say what they think!I need to know!
(I read some ideas u guys posted for spidey movies they were all extremely good 2 bad marvel won't hire writers like u guys)
Billy bob that story about peters baby u wrote was stupid!! The rest was good its just that baby thing is killing the story.
Transformer 2 plans coming up next!!
Megatron is dead, and the Autobots now live on earth in peace. However, in a distant galaxy, Starscream has declared himself the new leader of the Decepticons, which angers those loyal to Megatron, particularly Soundwave. Soundwave, who is able to give life back to fallen robotic organisms, leads his own band of Decepticons to earth to resurrect Megatron. To make matters worse, Starscream has heard of an energy source birthed from the Allspark by Sector 7, and he leads his own band to earth as well to take that source of energy. However, Soundwave cannot complete the resurrection without another energy source known as the Creation Matrix, which just so happens to be in the possession of Optimus Prime. With one band of Decepticons closing in on Optimus Prime and another band of Decepticons looking for the ultimate power, the Autobots, as well as Sam, Mikaela, and the former members of Sector 7, find themselves caught in the middle of a Decepticon civil war that could ravage the planet, and they must fight their way out of it in order to save the human species from extinction.
And in case no one paid any attention to part one starscream never dies....if u wait till some of the credits past u can see him flying off 2 space!
Honestly I think transformers was way better than spider man 3 and now the story for part 2 sounds way hotter and this aint fake assholes this is the real story I don't waste time writing fake shit ok!!!! Show me love!!!!
Is there any chance that Madame Web appears in this fourth installment of the Spiderman movie seires?
put hobgoblin,rhino.scorpion,shocker or sumbody but not dese 2 clowns!!! damn !!! hope they juss rip aunt may
also spidy meets blonde bombshell felicia hardy a.ka. blackcat (forgot mj)
he could be robbing a bank while wearing body armor sprayed with rhino lining and would end up getting defeated by spiderman.
A funny scene would be Electro putting on the comic version costume, looking in the mirror and saying to him self no way and then putting something else on. The other villain should be Lizard man which could add just a little drama to the film and that’s it NO MORE relation ship drama or personal identity drama. And at the end they should show two scenes one were Dr. Conners starts to experiment with the symbiote and a scene were Roderick Kingsley steps into his new home previously owned by the Osborns.
venom
carnage
lizard
scorpion
doc ock
green goblin
hob goblin
vulture
rhino
shocker
kraven
mysterio
sandman
hydroman
electro
molten man
kingpin
morbius
rocket racer
If they could bring back Venom with a ncie story line this would be nice, just all in ll what the hell. Harry isnt dead...not in the comics
But is a dead character not really dead?
by Stax
May 1, 2007 - With Spider-Man 3 opening in theaters stateside this Friday, fans want to know if this will be the last movie featuring their favorite neighborhood wallcrawler. Fear not, true believers: Spidey will indeed continue his big-screen adventures!
FoxNews.com columnist Roger Friedman attended the premiere of Spider-Man 3 at the Tribeca Film Festival in New York on April 30th. The film's entire cast and director Sam Raimi were reportedly present.
Friedman said Raimi advised him that there will be a Spidey 4, adding that it's "not clear which cast members will return, but as Raimi said, 'It's all about getting a script.'"
That script will have to be written by another scribe besides Alvin Sargent, who penned the last two films and is married to Spidey producer Laura Ziskin. "It's time for someone else to do it," Sargent informed Friedman.
(No word yet if David Koepp, who scripted the first Spider-Man movie, will be back for the fourth installment as earlier reports suggested.)
- Sony
Click for more images from Spidey 3's New York premiere!
The big surprise in the FoxNews.com report is word that one character who appears to die in Spidey 3 might return for Spidey 4. "It turns out I may not be completely dead," the unnamed actor who plays the unspecified character revealed.
I'd like to see spidey fight the scorpion sooner or later, but use Carnage first to bring closure to the symbiote chapter.
Herman Schultz became head of Oscorp after harry's death, and led the company into financial doom. "the bank" points out that the only project of his that was successful was the R.H.I.N.O. battlesuit, which was too expensive and a prototype is currently in a vault in oscorp. Herman reveals his newest project, the concussion gloves that can be placed in a schock bsorbing machine and focused to the strength to shatter granite. However, the demonstration fails, and the bank no longer will give oscorp financial help.
Herman is shunned from society in general, and adapts his concussion machine to gloves and puts on a shock absorbing suit, turning to a life of crime. Meanwhile, the russian dude steals the battlesuit and becomes Rhino.
After Spidey defeats shocker, he convinces him to help defeat the seemingly indestructible Rhino. Shocker tells him of the machines immense potential, and the climactic battle occurs, in which the battlesuit is destroyed, russian guy thrown in prison, and Herman killed.
Opening montage
Peter Parker is swinging around new york. He and his Ex-girlfriend Mj Watson have put their relationship back together. Soon Parker's spider- sense had gone off. A bank robbery had been commited. A man with red hair named Cletus Kassady was the robber. He was sent to jail and swore to get back at spider-man. Mean while a man named Joseph Donswick was selling the osborn's house. He took a look inside. He saw a crack in a mirror. He tried to move it but it would not move. He gave it one last tug and it shattered. It lead to the Goblin's lair. he saw all the green goblin and New goblin's stuff. The mask, serum, glider, sky stick, ect. Back to Peter he is in school when his teacher says that this is the last week of school. Peter ask what his teacher, Dr. Curtis Connors, was up to. Connors replies"A serum that will regrow my missing arm. Peter is anxous what he means but he carries on. Later we find Connor's in his lab. He enjects a needle through his shoulder. Minutes later an arm grows. To be continued.
1. lizard
2. scorpion
3. electro
4. carnage
5. rhino
mayby they'll use sombody like hydro man or hobgoblin in 5 or 6 if i'm lucky.
SPIDERMAN is asked by a reporter if he personally knows the man who takes his pictures, after falling into a slump with the public following his “black suit†fiasco, he is eager to gain some recognition. He says no, but recommends Peter Parker. SPIDERMAN’s alter ego gets an award as well for the inspiring photos he took of the starving and desperate people within the city. This award was shared with Ned Leeds who wrote the article for the paper.
Mary Jane has found a new man, Morris “Morrie†Bench. As differing from the other movies, this is not a love triangle, it has been about 6 months since MJ has seen or spoken to Peter, he is not a factor in her new relationship whatsoever. MJ has finally hit her big break, she is a supporting actress in a low budget actin movie. Unknown to her the lead stunt/special effects coordinator of Mysterio Industries has taken a liking to her. Knowing how strong Morrie is (he’s seen him on the set before) he only dares to watch and follow her at a distance. Later in the movie we learn that even though they are not together, SPIDERMAN does a similar operation as Quentin, only for the sake of her safety.
But through the eyes of her followers, MJ’s relationship is not a good one. She's clearly only with Morrie for the sake of being with a man, he is verbally abusive to her, and neglects her needs constantly. Finally, (about halfway through the movie) Quentin and Peter both watch as Morrie finally crosses the line with a punch to MJ’s face which instantly reminds Peter of what he had done, and how no one should have to do that to her again. They both rush over to her, unfoertunarly for Quentin, his not being known by either of the three others in the situation leaves him rejected by the conflict. He is thrown away by Morris and hides (believed to be gone) somewhere close to the scene.
After a shortly escalated fight, Peter knocks Morrie out and leaves him in an alleyway. Peter begs MJ to come back to him. She says he has to choose between himself or SPIDERMAN. Peter’s final resource is to, at very bad time, ask Mary Jane to marry him. They continue to argue over how safe she’ll be and how much he really loves him. As they both make references to SPIDERMAN Quentin finally realizes Peter’s secret identity! MJ agrees to return to the same spot in one week with her design. MYSTERIO realizes Peters chances and decides to use Peters powers against him. He starts by following Peter he watches as he spends literally the last of his money on a beautiful necklace for MJ. Over the week Quentin creates an identical suit, grip gloves and web-shooters. Hours before Peter and MJ meet MYSTERIO hatches his plan, he goes into a local bank as SPIDERMAN, makes a big scene, and steals money that’s just about the same worth as the necklace.
Peter and MJ meet once again, However before she gives him a strait answer she sees the news on TV.....SPIDERMAN had robbed a bank. Impersonating the web spinner, MYSTERIO then robbed the bank to destroy his reputation. In Mary Jane’s eyes she thought it could be no one but peter because the SPIDERMAN she had seen on TV had shot webbing like him and clung to a wall. Fearing the person see had loved had become a criminal at last she runs from peter leaving him nothing but a note. Peter, now heartbroken and fearing for Mary Jane tries to figure out who is behind impersonating him. Peter realizes someone must know who he is, and MUST have been following him to know just how mush money he spent on that necklace.
(DURING ALL OF WHAT I HAVE JUST DESCRIBED THERE IS A SECOND PLOT LINE OF DR. CURT CONNORS --THE LIZARD-- THIS BELOW DESCRIPTION HAPPENS AT THE SAME.)
Peter is attending his last year in college. Him and other students begin to notice something strange about their professor lately. It is shown later he is suffering from phantom limb syndrome and minor hysteria because of it. Peter is glad to help his friend and teacher in any way possible. Peter is introduced to the professor’s family who are all trying to help him feel better. But it’s just not enough for him, he begins studying reptilian limb regeneration. He asks Peter for help, they both work endlessly. They then successfully regenerate the limb of a rabbit. The professor is anxious to use the serum on himself, but Peter warns him that a few more test have to be done to ensure a successful regrowth. After Peter leaves, Connors sits in his office for hours thinking to himself. Finally, in the early hours of the morning, he takes the serum. At first, much to the Doctor’s dismay, nothing happens. After a few minutes of panic and frustration, he can feel something, his arm slowly begins to regenerate, he obviously is overjoyed by the results. In mid- celebration he meaninglessly clenches his fist, but he screams out in pain. As he looks down he sees large lacerations on the palm of his hand. He looks at his fingers as large talons form. He panics again. He helplessly watches as his skin becomes hard and scaly, his teeth sharpen and pupils thin. He once again screams with unending pain as his knee, and feet bones snap, pop, and regrow to form hind legs. Finally after being unrecognizable and reptilian his tail begins to grow, it whips around his room at speeds of 70 miles per hour destroying anything in its path he smashes his desk through a wall, making a hole for him to escape, nearby is a stairwell down to the subway. . .
(THIS IS WHERE THE STORY LINES START TO CONVERGE)
Peter then jumps on a subway in order to get to the daily bugle and get the story out that there is a SPIDERMAN impostor. On the Subway as citizens emerge from the train THE LIZARD attacks. It starts to rip through the small crowd like tissue paper. All try to get away as Peter attempts to get closer, but he doesn’t notice the tail. It smacks him in the chest sending him through the doors back onto the train. The rest begin to escape as THE LIZARD leaps onto the train while it pulls out of the station. The two battle, throwing eachother into walls and handrails until Peter and knocks him out of the train. The two battle in the dark of the tunnel and at the end of the fight Peter knocks THE LIZARD in front of a train going by and THE LIZARD is swept down the tracks. Peter is ready for It to leap back towards him when the train is gone, or fot it to be dead, but the monster is completely gone. Peter says “well thats newâ€Â. Peter, beat up, makes his way to the bugle. When he arrives there JJJ orders him into the office and fires him saying that the photos he got rewards for had been fakes. A man had came in dressed like someone from the pictures and claimed that he had posed for the pictures. Peter objects, Ned defends him just for the sake of hoping Peter wouldn’t do that. Confused on what to do Jameson orders them out of his office until he could make a decision. Peter knew it must have been the same guy who had disguised himself with the Spidey suit to look like people from the pictures. Ned Leeds questioned him and asked if he had any enemies that might try to frame him and Peter could only laugh.
In order to beat the traffic that had built up due to the blizzard Peter Changed to SPIDERMAN and attempts to swing across town. While swinging he hears a whisper in his ear. He turns and sees no one and then through the white of the snow MYSTERIO appears swinging along side him. “Nice night for a swing.†He says. Then he is gone again. Seconds later his web line snaps and he falls and hits the roof of a building. He sees the man un-costumed once more before he finally disappears into the snow once more.
Peter returns to class the next day frustrated with his new tormentors but eager to complete the final genetic tests with Dr. Connors after class. The class begins relatively normal, if not better than it has in the past few days with the professor feeling anxious. But halfway in, things take a turn fot the worst, the class seems to notice the professor has begun to perespire, and studder, as if trying to hold something in. Peter then notices something else, his eyes are turning yellow (like a LIZARD). The doctor stopps mid sentence and drunkenly makes his way up the stairs through the students, as he passes by Peter he touches his shoulder and says “im sorryâ€Â. He leaves the room. Peter sits there for a moment thinking of the meaning of Connor’s last words, he then rushes through the door after him (the camera stays in the classroom) after about 5 seconds a female scream can be heard, almost a second later THE LIZARD and SPIDERMAN burst through one of the walls of the class room and continue fight. THE LIZARD uses his tail to capture escaping students and throws them across the room, SPIDERMAN having to save them and subdue his opponent. Peter realizes that as a reptile with cold blood, THE LIZARD will be weakened in the outdoor winter temperatures. His plan works, although still an effective fighter with his tail, THE LIZARD’s substacially decreased strength proved to be his downfall. SPIDERMAN is able to lure him into an alleyway and web-wrap him to a fire escape ladder. Peter questions the animal until he finds its inner knowledge of who he and Peter are. He does this with his mask still on. The beast says yes and very slowly transforms back into Curt Connors. Peter takes him down and swings away as countless on-lookers begin to crowd the scene. He delivers Doctor Connors into a sewer system, he explains that it is the only place where he could change without hurting people. Naturally, MYSTERIO followed them. After Peter leaves, he waits until the professors next transformation, with his spider-suit handy. . .
When Peter returns home he finds MJ at the apartment getting the remains of her things. Peter manages to convince her to listen to him. She is not totally convinced when the door rings. Peter answers it and there stands Quentin Beck in a mailman suite. Peter allows him in. He carries with him a large box. Quentin takes a seat in the kitchen, helping himself to a cup of coffee. Peter’s curiosity finally gets the better of him and he asks “What’s in the box?â€Â
Quentin replies calmly and smoothly, “Open it in find out.†Despite his suspicions Peter opens it and finds a metal case. After opening that he discovers all of the money that MYSTERIO had stolen that day. Quentin explains to him that he would get revenge on him by ruining his life in the same way he had ruined his. Peter had caused Quentin to lose the only woman he loved. Quentin told SPIDERMAN that all the money had Peter Parkers finger prints on them. When Peter asked how he told him that he knew everything about Peter. Because he had bonded with Peter, and followed him wherever he went, he had learned everything there was to know about him……even his fingerprint. (During explanation there are a few clips of the places Peter has been throughout the movie with Quentin studying him in the background) Then, right before Peter and Mary Jane he reaches into his pocket which has a latex glove that represented Peter Parker’s exact fingerprint. His hand retreated and they resumed their conversation. Now if SPIDERMAN tried to return the money the law would discover who he was and if he did not return it he would remain a fugitive forever. SPIDERMAN would only have one choice. He would have to face MYSTERIO in a duel at Midnight, at the Yankee stadium construction site, and during what was the greatest Blizzard that New York had faced in a century. When asked why the constustion site he only replies he’s happy to be “warm blooded†(his reference being to THE LIZARDS neccesity of warm temperatures which will be provided by the stadium lights). He would have to meet MYSTERIO on his terms. He explains SPIDERMAN must come alone (he thinks this wont be a problem because he doesn’t seem to be a “built†man. MYSTERIO says if SPIDERMAN could beat him without using any help then he would tell the police that he had attempted to frame and an innocent photographer but if he doesn’t then Quentin would tell the NYPD the address of Peter Parker and then they would find the money and learn the identity of SPIDERMAN.
Enraged Peter attacked MYSTERIO with insults and soon the tension escalated. Quentin attacks Peter. There is a medium size fight scene in the apartment. MYSTERIO gasses the room to appear invisible. He grabs MJ in the confusion, as he leaves he just says, “The Site. At Midnight,†then he smashes thought the window and disappears into the white of snow. Peter knew that he had left him alive because he wanted everyone to see that he could beat SPIDERMAN.
Midnight comes at last and SPIDERMAN heads for the construction site. When Peter gets to the site he sees that there seems to be at least 30 Spider-Men (MYSTERIO duplicating with effects). SPIDERMAN is struggling to fight and find the real MYSTERIO when he sees….himself, with MJ through the snow. Breaking away and following the OTHER spiderman they finally meet at a fateful spot. The other Spidermen disapear and MYSTERIO stands with his arm locked with MJ’s. The stadium lights turn on. MYSTERIO starts to monologue, but though facing him, doesnt seem to be talking to Peter. He says “ It’s a shame you’ve braught yourself so low, trying to take MY woman from ME, well our love is to strong for YOUR evil you--you--you, IMPOSTOR!!!†As he yells impostor THE LIZARD leaps from the side and blindsights Peter, first by tackling him, and then punching him with his enormous tail. The two fight endlessly as they weave in and out of various construction, and building materials. Eventually after continuous fighting (which i dont feel like describing, so use your imagination) SPIDERMAN is pinned down against the ground and a construstion vehicle. He is holding THE LIZARD’s mouth open in front of him while trying to tell It he’s Peter. He pushes It to the side in order to remove his mask, but the force of the reptile trying to bite him send him flying into the vehicle which causes it to flip and explode under it.
This leaves MYSTERIO, he pushes MJ back as gas cloads emerge from his sleves. MYSTERIO taunts SPIDERMAN as he unsuccessfuly hunts the villain in the fog. He begins with his figures saying “i’m over here†as SPIDERMAN turns towards that direction, he gets punched from the opposite side by the REAL him. (THIS CONTINUES A FEW TIMES). Then the fog clears and he and MJ appear to be gone. Then (from the top of one of the lights on the opposite side of the field) “you know you really should hold onto you’re personal belongings†he drops MJ from the astounding height. SPIDERMAN helplessly watches as his lover falls to earth. Peter reaches the other side, collapses on his knees beside her and begins to weep harder than he did when Uncle Ben died. He lies helplessly next to her until he hears a scream “PETER LOOK OUT!!!†the REAL MJ yells as the other disapears. He is met withe swift kick to the face. “emotional warfare always works†MYSTERIO says. SPIDERMAN then shoots webbing at Quentin, but he quickly disperses a gas to disolve it. Peter has had enough, he leaps out at him, he contines to punch him in the face until he is bloody all over. But he is stopped, Dr. Connors grabbs his hands before he can swing another fist. He looks around the ones he loves are around him cold and scared, thet want to go home. The NYPD starts to arrive. Quentin kept his word despite his hatred for Peter. Quentin Beck is taken to prison at last. And Peter Parker? Well Pete finally gets married atop a building roof in the spring. How about that? Everyone is happy! For now.....DUM, DUM, DUM!!!
Roll Credits……..
I wouldn't mind the Punisher, but, alas, people see him as a hero and a headliner these days.
Here's a couple from back in the '70s: The Mindworm and Will O The Wisp.
Just kidding there.
I'd also be kidding if I said "Rocket Racer."
How about J.Jonah Jameson as the Spider-Slayer with Spencer Smythe as well? I think that could work WELL! I know others have mentioned this.
I decided to start going through the issues to see what we missed, skipping over henchmen and things like "prison inmates" (#65) or "unnamed terrorists" (#95) and what we've already mentioned..
Many have been left out.. with good reason.
From #2 (2nd story) The Terrible Tinkerer
From #10 The Enforcers (Fancy Dan, Ox, Montana, Big Man)
Then there was the Beetle (issue #21, debuted in Strange Tales #123)
The Ringmaster and his Circus of Crime (Princess Python, Clown, Cannonball, Great Gambonnos) from # 22
Lucky Lobo, who worked with Green Goblin in # 23.
Crime-Master, who worked with Green Goblin in # 26 and died in #27.
Here's a good one! MOLTEN MAN from # 28! I know that was mentioned.
The Cat Burgler (who later becomes the Prowler II) from # 30
Master Planner (#31) Looter (Meteor Man) #36 Mendel Stromm (Robot Master) (#37) A Guy Named Joe (#38).
At that point, there's a string of already mentioned (or already in the movies) villains including Gobby, Rhino, the Lizard, the Shocker. Since we have yet to see the Vulture it makes no sense to mention Blackie Drago (Vulture II.) Kingpin (#50-52) has been mentioned.
Spider-man of course battled the Human Torch and Doctor Doom in some early issues, not to mention the Hulk and even Daredevil, but, alas, like the Punisher they all have their own films. And do we really want to see him battle Ka-Zar like in # 57 or Medusa (#62)? Or Quicksilver and the Toad (#71)?
Brainwasher and Dr. Winkle from #59 are a long shot, though Brainwasher was the Kingpin anyway.
#73, we have Man-Mountain Marko, Caesar Cicero, Silvermane
#78's The Prowler is actually not the most lame choice!
#81's The Kangaroo is a contender for most lame.
#83 brought us the Schemer (Richard Fisk)
The Black Widow (#86) might actually be more interesting then the Black Cat, though I'd like to see her in a Daredevil sequel.
#91, Sam Bullit joins the list of the very forgettable catagory, which is quite long as you can see above.
Forgettable is actually worse than lame. so Kangaroo beats Sam Bullit.
#99 brought us another forgettable, Turpo (Prisoner)
Finally, we come to #100, "hallucinations," which ALWAYS works
#101 Michael Morbius, which I think is actually a GOOD choice (I'd LOVE to see the "six-armed" Spider-man story from #102 on the big screen!)
And I will stop there.. cause I'm tired.. anybody want to take over starting with # 103?
Opening montage
It has been 2 years since Harry Osborn died. Peter Parker was still your friendly neborhood spider-man. He was swinging when a red head was robbing the bank. Spider-man put the man in jail. After that he went to school. After class his teacher explained to him about a serum that will regrow his missing limb. Peter seems happy for him. Afterwards his Ex-girlfriend Mary Jane was in an alley when Spider-man jumped in front of her. He said he wants to start over new. Mj takes him back. To be continued.
You did miss a few very interresting villains..
Like:
Juggernaught (I know hes in the x-men now but the issues
where spidey puts him in conctrete where great).
Tarantula, the issues with Will "O" the Wisp weren't that bad
I wouldnt dissmiss him off hand..
Boomerang (Allthough I really think a villain should have
superpowers, scratch him..)
Firelord, (I like the overwhelming odds..)
Titania, (OK you'd have to make a movie about the secret Wars..
I'm all for that :))
In fact, from the secret wars there is the wrecking crew, Absorbo, moleculeman (too powerfull)..
Then there are a lot of single issue vallains that r better left there..
(the spot, the hitman, stiltman (I guess hes a crossover too))
There's the lobo brothers wherewolves..
And then there is the Rose and Jack O Lantern and the killing of hobgoblin (who b.t.w is not Roderick Kingsley but a certain mr. Leeds the husband of Betty Leeds), but I guess you at least have to introduse him before doing so..
I'm betting 4 'll involve carnage though, even with the Venom from spidey3 looking suspiciously like him...
After spider-man escapes the hobgoblin he returns home. Mj was waiting. After awhile they go out to dinner. During dinner something appears outside the window. It breaks the glass. Peter thought it was venom but instead carnage. Peter runs from the scene. He puts on his spidey costume and springs into action. Before he can get even close enough to shoot webs carnage's symbiote tenacles grab him. They toss him to the end of the street. Peter gets up but carnage gets away. To be continued
carnage can come from anther astoired or spiderman gets the venom on him wich makes the ultimate carnage then it comes of spiderman then on to the errrr crazy dude then turns in to a carnage that destroys every thing.
the lizard has been disgribed in so many ways but the best there is, when he was seeing if he can change his self and make his arm grow back but because he had the lizard blood in it (if lizards get one of their arms cut of it can grow back)wich made him turn monstouirs but the whole film might turn bad for new york.
if got the storyline of the ending if u want hear it read on......
at the end spiderman has the fight with carnage and the misthioures villian spiderman might be killed venom gets killed the lizard gets killed(if hes in it)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 villain and one villain only
Spidey and jjj go to florida to do a report on the lizard. Back in new york Ned Leeds (who is dating Betty Brant) is a robber(of cousre betty doesn't know). then he robs a the osborns mansion. and hides in the room with all the green goblin stuff. then he takes the stuff and becomes the hobgoblin. At that same time the evil vulture his hiding from the cops at a retirement home. and meets aunt may. he pretends to love her so he can hide. While spidey is in florida battling the lizard. aunt may calls and says im getting married. (to the vulture.). Then peter invites betty and ned and betty's brother comes along too. before that spidey stops the vulture from robbing a bank. then the vulture finds out about peter being spidey. and thens finds out about aunt may being his aunt.
The at the wedding the lizard interupts. Then the vulture took out a gun to shoot spidey. then spidey grabs the gun and accidently shoots betty's brother. then betty turned to ned and said i want him deid. Then ned puts on his goblin gear and attacks spiderman. Spidey knocks out the goblin (so he can return for the next movie.) Then spidey and the vulture and the lizard get in a huge fight. while the vulture is unconsious spidey saves the lizard. and then spidey and the lizard team up and destroy the vulture. Everybody is dissapointed esicially betty. They all go back to newyork. "but wait" says dr.connors "wheres my sample of venom. Then in the backround you see a shadow. of a venom face then it screams.
in the next one it should have the scorpion (the main villain) hobgoblin(small villian) then venom(he'll be in it 3 times so he can build up smally untill the 6th one there'll be carnage as the mane villain.
symbiote spawns then dies. the ofspring goes to cletus Casity
and he becomes carnage. When carnage kills the sandman, the Jackal and the Venom clone try to be heros and stop carnage. Spidey joins the group and Carnage is outnumbered. When
Venom tries to kill carnage, spidey stops him, so Venom attacks. The Jackal leaves with Carnage and spidey defeats Venom and
he goes to prizon. When Eddie finds out Peter's dating Gwen
again, he busts out of prison. He takes Carnage from the Jackal
and Jackal thinks spidey did it. Jackal finds Spider-man and
almost kills him, but when he sees spidey's Blood, he takes a
sample and leave. He then kidnaps Gwen thinking the new spidey could live without a girlfriend. Venom and Carnage team up since
Carnge wants Jackal dead and Venom needs to rescue Gwen. To make sure Jackal doesn't know Venom betrayed him, Venom
fougt off Spider-man while Carnage fought Jackal. Carnege told
Jackal everything and then Jackal went to kill Venom, Spidey
saved him and Jackal was killed. Venom and spidey team up. Meanwhile Carnage steals Gwen. Spidey and Venom search and search until they finaly find Carnage and defeat him. Then
Venom kills Gwen himself for cheating on him. After that,
Venom turned into a pile of goo. Spidey investigates and finds
out somebody cloned him and Gwen and it wasn't the Jackal.
oh and we should start talking about Transformers 2 cuz I can hardly wait for it to come out and also Avp 2 looks awssome so the next person write back im interested what you guys think so maybe the kms kid and i can start talking about this new movie so kms kid write what you think and if you want to chat responde friday or wednesday evenings
after a fight with spiderman carnage finds venom and they team up. Soon after the lizard and hobgoblin are fighting. spider-man itterpts and kicks both of there butts. after there defeat they relized that if they teamed up spiderman would not stand a chance. That leads to kidnapping MJ. They team up with venom2 and carnage. Spiderman comes to save mj.
Stay tooned for final climax battle.
spider-man is swinging to save MJ. Then he is hit by a bomb. Followed by another bomb. Then he is swung around and slashed. He looks to see Venom2, Carnage, Lizard, and Hobgoblin. They all go for spiderman but he jumps out of the way. The goblin throws razor bats at venoms webbing so he could kill mj. Spider-man takes a razor bat and flings it at the others. An explosion occurs and venom and carnage start yelling. He tries to get mj out of the waay but carnage gets a hold of himself and attacks. the lizard then transforms. He is Now mega lizard. Spider-man takes the hobgoblins glider and pulls it away from him. The goblin goes flying into venom. Spider-man throws the glider at the lizrd but he throws it back. Bombs start to rain down. Spiderman takes one and throws it at the glass building so he can remove cletus's and james' symbiote. Insted lizard eats it and blows up which made the symbiotes crawl off James and Cletus. He then throws a bomb at the symbiotes which like eddie brock Cletus and James went after. They wee all deystroyed. Then the hobgoblin appears. He takes a bomb but spidey throws it back leaving nothing but a dead Mark Kakora. Spiderman rescues Mj and they swing home.
The end
That is not the whole thing though. I will do 5 and 6
what do you think
Suppose Doc Ock didn't die but remained in a kind of stasis with vital signs emulated by his arms (1). After the dock hosting Octavius' tridium machine was destroyed, rebuilding begins in the location with money funnelled by the Kingpin, and during construction which Maxwell Dillon becomes Electro(3) in an accident, subsequently reviving Doc Ock! The two team up and exploit Kingpins criminal funds to synthesize more tridium, but not before Doc Ock creates a suit to regulate Electro's powers (The suit itself has condiut trails that simulate the design of the comic book costume; the bolt-like appendages are resistor type devices that form the mask). Now--Remember the Osborne butler? Well meanwhile HE inherits a large chuck of Oscorp enterprise and stumbles on a will clause left behind that obligates him to use previous means to kill Spider-Man, himself becoming mad and designing a device that allows him to fly with a pair of teflon wings-Hence the Vulture (4). Sam Raimi YES is transformed into Mysterio (5) from the quirky freelance faux who is gifted with sleight of hand and likes to pretend things are going on that are not, enhanced by manipulations of Osborne's machinery and mad-mixtures when he and Vulture team in a deal to work together to kill Spidey--Which lands him broken and torn into a Sandbank (6). Flint Marko, aids Spiderman.
HOW MANY OF YOU NOTICED THAT PROFESSOR CONNOR HAS ONE ARM?! IT IS ALSO PROFESOR CONNOR WHO STUDIED THE SPLINTER OF SYMBIOTE PETER PARKER SHOWED HIM IN FILM 3! DUH!
There's the SINISTER SIX-AND THERE'S THE MOVIE THAT YOU WANT TO SEE!
Megatron rules!!!!!!
I'm 13
Daisy is 11 and Jacob is 7! whoooo go us!!!
Carnage and Lizard are perfect for spidey 4.
g-man, who's your favorite football team? Professional.
Oh Ya,
Speaking of peanutbutter
Lizard and Carnage are great!
I want a pony, a skateboard, and tacos.
To santa
anyways
whoever they get for a villain in the new one, i don't care as long as its not all over the place and a better script....
p.s. not a huge fan of Toby can't act this part i think.. but could they really take him off.. guess not... oh well
how bout spidey gets a sidekick, maybe DD (daredevil) or wolverine
i also think camillian would be boring, hydroman would make good FX but boring also, scorpion and rhino could be working for kingpin and DD cud go and help spidey, that whole carnage thing would work really good and be a good transition from 3 to 4 + it wud make sense, then it cud make a better transition from 4 to 5
it cud be that doctor connor got pissed off at spidey while he was the lizard and decided to make himself stronger with venom thus creating carnage!
any ideas on any sidekicks spidey could have or ?
The Scriptor
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Odds: 0% (Spider-man would be powerless to stop him)
dont make sense. SO WATCH THE MOVIES YOU RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#1.too many vilians in your story
#2.the green goblin was in the second spiderman. remember at the end after peter defeated dr octipus the movie went back to harry's house and the GREEN GOBLIN APPEARED in the mirror. Harry broke it and found the goblin gear.
Mysterio, Lizard, Carnage & Man-Wolf... cause after the second film Mary jane runs off from John Jameson on their wedding day and i think man wolf should come in on that.
i think if there's a fifth film it sholud be...Electro, Hobgoblin, Rhino, Kraven & Scorpion.
If a sixth film they should be...Vulture, Chameleon, Shocker, Jackal, Doppelganger & VENOM II ( Angelo Fortunuato.)
And if there's a seventh the characters should be...Kingpin, Hammer-head, Hydro-man, Alistair Smythe, Morlum, Black cat & VENOM III ( The return of Mac Gargan.)
Dont you think????????????????????????????
that would make the most bad ass movie
or the spider slayers
or any of venom's children
the most bad ass villains though would be Morlun
and poison!!!
toby mcguire is a dip shit for saying there is no more room for interesting story
just caz he couldnt pull his weight in making the spider-man story interesting!
it would be an easy fix to solve him not coming back to the movies
all you would have to do is just do the clone saga
peter parker goes off to live his life
wile his clone fights crime thinking he is the real peter parker
and then in the last movie the real peter fights the clone and then the clone dies and fades away to dust knowing that he was only a clone!!
if any one disagrees with me id like you to tell me why because these are the best characters.
Spiderman 3
Fights sandman/hrydoman/electro near goverment facility. Gets the symboit. Conners becomes the Lizard, fights in sewars but doesn't kill him, lizard/conners tells symboit is bad...gets rid of symboit...vemon teaser (spiderman 4)
Spiderman 4
Fights venom. Carnage appears. Venom seeing Gwen Stacy almost die by Carnage but saved by Spiderman. Helps fight Carnage together.
but i still think john jameson should come in as man-wolf and get revenge from the end of the 2nd movie.
but if you REALLY KNOW YOUR SPIDERMAN KNOWLEDGE if anyone wants see venom return you would have to use angelo fortunuato although he is not that well known.
but i also think that mysterio or electro would be good, after all they the biggest characters after Venom and Sandman.
Another good storyline would be the Clone saga and THE JACKAL but i think that should be left till later film's.
But I know there is gonna be 6 films altogether...
I've just found out that Morlun will most proberly be in spidey 4...
that makes ( maybe) Lizard, black cat, Carnage and MORLUN.
but i still think Mysterio should be in it.
awsome
I know that at the end of the third movie he suposedly died but they could say that when Brock jumped back to the symbiote, the symbiote attached itself to Brock and he managed to leap off the building and go into hiding, and that Spidey only destroyed part of the symbiote. and for the other villain in the movie they could have the Lizard. Venom would live (of course, you can't just kill the greatest super-villain of all time!) and Peter would either help Dr Connors or kill him. At the end of the movie Peter would launch the symbiote that Dr. Connors still had into space where it mutates and comes back to create carnage in the 5th movie. Then in the 5th movie Spidey would only be fighting Carnage and possibly have some help from Venom. But Venom will not die!!! I think I should be in charge of directing these movies because my plots for the 4th and 5th movie are way cool! Then I think in the 6th movie there should be Shocker, possibly Black Cat and another villain, BUT NOT ANOTHER GOBLIN!!!
Anyway,since I've been gone,this discussion has gone into a mess.Who thinks Carlyle would be a good minor villan.My cousin mentioned it and I'm not sure.So,can everyone stop arguing?Everyone has there own opinions,so let's respect them,huh?
Thanks guys,
BB.
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Bruce Cambell- Quentin Beck\Mysterio
Jim Carry- Cletus Kasady\Carnage
Rick Flair- Adrian Toomes\Vulture
Ben Stiller- Maxwell Dillion\Electro
Russle Crowe- Kraven the Hunter
Brad Pitt- Morris Bench\Hydo-Man
Jessica Biel- Felica Hardy\Black Cat
Dylan Baker- Dr. Curt Connors\The Lizard
so then we have 2 baddies really as those 2 work together the whole time with lizard separate
if a 5th film happens then carnage should be the villian with parker finding the experiment in dr conner's study or whatever, then after that have the hobgoblin and once he is killed it shows all the goblin equipment destroyed, 2 more emotional villians there
then if a 6th happens concentrate solely on the return of venom
Green Goblin, Dok Ock, Sandman, Hobgoblin, and Venom.
Spider-Man villains that have npt been used:
Lizard, Carnage, Electro, Shocker, Hydro-Man, Man-Wolf, Vulture, Scopian, Mysterio, and Kraven the Hunter
are not going to bring him back i'm sorry. Luckily they are going
to make a Venom spin-off so they'll have to bring back for that.
Black Cat, Lizard, Carnage
Mysterio, Kingpin, Kraven
Venom, Carnage and Hobgoblin
I think than Betty Brant get married with Hoffman
And Kraven and Kingpin work together
Connors work in the bit of symbiosis he has and it transformed in Carnage at the end, and Spider, Black Cat and Lizard transforme in a little team
0k, I continue,
Cletus Cassidy is the neightbor of Robie Robertson, so he attacks the man, you now, because in all the movies MJ and Aunt May have problems
i dont ever rember in any form canrange being an experiement and even if he is an experement why would doctor conors fool around with the left over peice from venom doesnt make scene what good or gain would come of that + venom could come back again that small peice gets big on a host + carnage jumps on spidy at one point in the series
oh, and has anyone thought of morbeouse? the vampire?
its a long shot but ya never know..
Then we see peter working with Dr. Connors who gets a little back story on how he lost his arm and some drama and such to set up why he later uses an experimental gene splicer to regrow his arm which works.
So we cut to Cledus Cassidy breaking out of jail. Dr. Connors calls peter and asks him to come to his lab because something has happened. Cledus ,while running from the police, bursts into Dr. Conners lab and takes him hostage when peter shows up the building is blocked off by the police. As spidey he swings to a window and sees Cledus holding a gun to Dr. Connors head. While spidey tries to think what to do Dr. Connors lurches forward in pain while Cledus backs away confused the lizard emerges and goes after Cledus. Now spidey not having seen the transformation jumps through a window and starts fighting the lizard not sure what happened to Conners during the fight the piece of symbiote from the 3'rd movie gets out and goes after peter who chases the lizard into the sewers with peter gone it takes Cledus and carnage is born.
Something like that anyways I think carnage should be in there somewhere imo he is spideys greatest villain. Most of the guys spidey goes after have some redeeming quality whereas carnage is pure evil. I just think spidey needs to face some real darkness.
sorry guys the and the rest of you he just pissed me off now back to subject It's carnage and maybe one more villain
IT'S 2008 AND THAT MEANS ONLY ONE MORE YEAR UNTIL IT COMES OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. Does Black Cat fight???????
the rhino would kick spidys ass.
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Harrison Ford Han Solo
Jared Hahn(Me) Ben Skywalker
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Spidey 5 should have the Hobgoblin. A cool villain would be J. Jonah Jameson.
spiderman4......lizard,carnage,and venom
spiderman5.......rhino,electro,and vulture
spiderman6........hobgoblin,scropion,and kraven
spiderman4. HobGoblin sucks because
he is like Green Goblin. Dr. Connor should be lizard man.
I hate Vulture because he is bald.
Jackal should really be given a bigger chance.
also, in spiderman 3, they got venom completely wrong! hes NOT A BAD GUY. Hes a good guy who PROTECTS the innocent but just hates spiderman.
In spiderman 4 it needs to be - Venom [Hero/enemy of spiderman depending on what [part of the movie it is], Carnage [Enemy of Venom and spiderman and a serial killer gone mad], Electro [Enemy of spiderman and boss of Carnage in the crime], Kraven The Hunter , and finally The Lizard [later on he helps spidey and venom to bring down carnage, Kraven, and electro].
So, basically, its three heros vs three villains - Spiderman, Venom, and The Lizard Vs Kraven The Hunter, Electro, and Carnage.
So some people on here need to just wake up and realize what true spiderman fans wants to see.
Btw, Blake, they will just have to put it either the usuak pg-13 to fit carnage, or put it rated R ONLY for brutal killing. But, hey, most spidey fans are 13 and up. and yeah people, 13 yr olds and up watch rated R movies....especially if it were to be spiderman.
1. he loathes the symbiote
2. he didn't even want to put venom in spidey 3
& 3. i don't think he'll put carnage in spidey 4
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Reading my comment, it seems like it might get interpreted differently from what I intended. Maybe it sounded like I was saying that the movie wasn't for people like you, and that you aren't a Spider-Man fan. I didn't mean it like that. I meant that it isn't being produced JUST for you. It is supposed to be produced to make happy fans in general, rather than just a person. Therefore, they should take into account what the majority of the fans and the general public want. And what most people want is Carnage.
CORCB: I totally agree with you. Carnage should be in a future Spider-Man movie.
DREW: Just because YOU dislike the symbiotes, it doesn't mean that the movies will be better without them. Because, you know, they aren't being produced just for you. They are being produced but for the general public and majority of fans.
Venom and Carnage are pretty popular villains, like it or not. Carnage is currently the villain most wanted to be in a Spidey film by the Spider-Man fans (http://www.spiderman-4.com/villains.html), and many people want Venom to return.
But bringing venom back would be stupid venom NO!
I also liked the idea of there bieng more than one villian
the xtra villian should be electro yeah even though he's not tough
he is awesome. GO CARNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
$$Carnage$$
In the comics he did a bit more than just cut people with his claws..Id say writing "Carnage Rules" on the wall of a building in ruins with his own blood would be classified as a scary villian
+did you here what that cole guy said i think he likes you
just read his comments a couple of scrolls up you'll crack up
Later,
the REAL BB.
in the Spectacular Spider-man soon. No Lizard, YAY! Liz sucks!
CARNAGE CARNAGE CARNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But know i know there is gonna be 6 films i think....
SP4: Carnage, Black Cat, Lizard and Morlun...
Lizard should appear at the end to give it more of a story, the only problem is you would only proberly see him for several minutes just like Venom in Spider man 3 and i think that really did dissapoint fans.
SP5: Man-wolf, Scorpion, Kraven, Chameleon, Rhino and shocker.
I know it sounds alot, but if you look at them they are mainly Hunters, spys or Assassins, except for Man-wolf who should find out about peter being Spiderman and try to get revenge on what happenend in the end of the second film.
SP6: Mysterio, Electro, Hobgoblin,Vulture,Hydro-man,Hammer-head, The Jakal and the spider slayers...
I suppose most of you dont agree but i heard Mysterio and electro will be left till last.
Hobgoblin was friends with Norman osborn and because he designed the Goblin glider, suit and weapons he should realise what he created and carry on the role.
Vulture and hydro-man should be normal enemies.
Hammer-head, The Jakal and Spencer smythe could be a different set of enemies and creates a rebellion on spiderman...
I Mean remember what The Green Goblin said in the first Movie...
"They will one day Hate you..."
And at the end of it all he ends up in a stalemate position surrounded by the villans who could all be working for Kingpin
I mean Just because Spiderman has an enemy dosent mean he has to Battle them....
You may find this stupid But i think it may work....
and by the way who is morlum i've never heard of him
1) THE LIZARD
2) ELECTRO
3) RHINO
4) (MAYBE) ELECTRO
5) RE-INTRODUCE THE SANDMAN
6) BLACK CAT
I READ OST OF THE COMMENTS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE LIZARD IT THE BEST CANIDATE FOR THE 4TH FILM, BUT! SINCE HOLLYWOOD IS FILLED A BUNCH OF TARDS, THEY WOULD PICK A CHARACTER THAT WE WANT, THEN FLIP THE CHARACTER INTO SOMETHING ELSE AND THE 4TH FILM WILL RESULT LIKE BATMAN 3 AND 4. HORRIBLE......
Anyway if they do Morlun, I think the dirctor should cut out the magic crap and just make him as a spirit or something better than a man who's walked the earth for a 1'000 years.
Well if there is A 6th movie I heard Mysterio and Electro is a definate.
It will just be like Venom ( being in the film for like 7 minutes.)
Cause if you think theres gonna be a big story behind it.
allong with vulture electro and kingpin and rino and also black cat111
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or hydroman comes in and spider man gets sandman to help fight him and venom comes back by taking over dr Connors and teams up with hydroman well they are just some suggestions.
The symbiotes were pretty good in the comics but thanks to Spider-man 3 they have praticly killed the reputation of the symbiotes. Venom has always been my fav alongside Doc Ock and The Lizard. But they did not use him enough and utilise his personal hatred to the right degree.
Carnage doesn't really seem likley for the 4th film. For a start everytime Spider-man defeated him he always had help from Venom or other Allies like Firestar, the Avengers, etc. Without Venom or the help of other Hero's or anti hero's Spider-man has no chance at beating Carnage at all. Unless the film ends up using the Carnage storyline from the Ultimate spider-man comics. Carnage is also supposed to be more Murderous than Venom so this would make the film even more Darker than the previous films. It would be almost impossible for the younger generation to enjoy the film without getting scared to death by the Mass Murdering Symbiote.
Kraven i'm not too sure about really. Was never really a threat to Spider-man in my opinion but i'm probably wrong.
Sandman was good in SM 3 but I can't really see him turning bad again and becoming a villain again.
Mysterio, Chameleon, Vulture, Rhino, Carrion, Doppelganger, Shriek and Shocker are not exactly big screen material so they may only be used in the Sinister Six or a version of the Maximum Carnage storyline.
Scorpion, Hydro-man, Hob goblin, Demo goblin, The Lizard and Electro were decent but would need a little work to make them good on the big screen.
Kingpin isn't likely to appear. He's just a large man who only influenced other villains. His fight scenes would be less than average. Besides the Daredevil movie ruined the Kingpin.
The chances of Doc Ock, Harry and Norman Osborn returning is very unlikely even though all the comics have brought them back one way or another.
So really that is just about every well known and hardly known villain that spider-man has faced. Hope this gave you some idea's of what the next Spider-man villains might be.
IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN! The film would have to introduce Kletus Cassidy and the Carnage symbiote first. Then the Toxin Symbiote and Patrick Mulligan. Also Toxin was a Hero not a Villian or Anti Hero. Even Venom and Carnage teamed up to try and kill him at one point as well.
venom's been used and Carnage will hopefully be in SP4.
Demogoblin should NOT be used as a villan!
If you search spiderman enemies in wikipedia it shows a list of the main villans and the minor villans because i think only well known villans should be put in the films.
Mysterio should definately be used,
Chameleon has to be in it, esecially being the very first villan,
I think vulture should have black wings prodruding out of his back instead of wings beneith his arms,
Rhino can be changed to Ultimate-Rhino,
and I think Shocker is quite a cool villian,
My opinion Sp4 will be... CARNAGE!, LIZARD!, BLACK-CAT and ?????
I'm also quite suprised that Man-wolf is hardly mentioned in this forum. A werewolf may look tacky but the story may be good.
wot do u think?
Black Cat would be an awesome addition as well
Lizard doesnt look like cclassic version just looks like a large lizard.
scorpian might be in as all it shows is him as a human
If Man-wolf apeares in the 4th movie then put scorpion in the 5th, so it gives J. Johna Jameson more reason to kill spiderman because he kills his son, not just because he hates him.
(like on ultimate spider man comics)
datll look kool
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on the new spiderman 4 they would be a great team
cool on spidederman 4 i love spiderman so much
it could be a show down betwin spidy and his clone
both fighting to know the truth
hell while where at it put hydro man in it
as i recal he was in the clone saga
and in the mid of the film have spiderman take out CC and put hem in jail
then at the end of the film show hem find the red symbiot on the floor. as it starts to cover hes face the movie ends as CC starts to smile
fans will love the fact that it keeps them waiting... and dont say thay wont
look at the matrix
lizard, vulture (could be made awesome) and maybe cameleon. but i don't know. black cat would be good. rhino is pretty much the same as the retard on xmen, i love those movies, btu new things need introduced.
p.s. IT'S CARNAGE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from the bomb explosion.
ps:way too much tlking and boringness in the third.
First, don't shut down the Hobgoblin. I think the green goblin has been disappointing in terms of "look" and feel. The Hobgoblin would be a perfect entry for end of 4, beg of 5. Maybe bleed in the whole gang war angle.
Second, I think Mysterio would be an excellent villain. Of course some updating would be needed to Beck's outfit, but KEEP THE DOME!! I remember that just looking evil.Spiderman's battles with most enemies involves battles of strength, but with Mysterio he had to learn to ignore what he saw and go with his senses. Remember, Mysterio was able to really mess with Spideys mind better than anyone.
Finally, the spider slayers. Spenser Smythes slayers were just "fing" cool. The one failure of the Xmen movies was not to include the Sentinels. I'm not going to say it would be a failure in this sense, but I think it is time for something or someone to hunt spidey.
I love the carnage idea, as he was just NUTS. But lets be honest the Symbiote angle was SUPER rushed, and probably should have begun in #2. That way the Carnage angle would be more critical.
hated the lizard. I remember everytime I read those issues they just didn't look right.
Black Cat? uh no. No more lovey dovey. Sin Six? YES. Good idea.
The opening scene of Spider-Man 4 will be Spidey web-slinging and it was two years after Harry's death. He, as Peter Parker, visits Harry's grave, but he doesn't notice that this guy under the name of Mac Gargan eavesdropped. As he leaves for school, he meets a new student, Felicia Hardy. In Dr. Connors' class, he introduced Felicia to the students. Connors explains to the class about his serum that will regrow his missing arm. After school, Peter web-slings, and confronts a robber under the name of Cletus Kasady.
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Spidey web-slings to save her, only to be confronted by the Sinister Syndicate, who was waiting. Spidey received help again from the Black Cat. During the battle, Aunt May found one of Peter's costumes, and she realized that Peter Parker was Spider-Man. Scorpion spread some poisonous acid on Spidey, but it didn't work. The Hobgoblin throws a pumpkin bomb, but Spidey webbed it and it went into a building. As a result, both Venom, and Carnage were defeated, due to loud sound waves that weaken symbiotes. Martha later enters the scene and injects Connors with the antidote, becoming Connors again. Scorpion and Hobgoblin enter the warehouse where Norman Osborn died. Spidey defeated them both, with help from the Black Cat. During the battle, the True Believers appear, and visited the dock and found Doc Ock, and resurrected him.
End.
Spidey web-slings to save her, only to be confronted by the Sinister Syndicate, who was waiting. Spidey received help again from the Black Cat. During the battle, Aunt May found one of Peter's costumes, and she realized that Peter Parker was Spider-Man. Scorpion spread some poisonous acid on Spidey, but it didn't work. The Hobgoblin throws a pumpkin bomb, but Spidey webbed it and it went into a building. As a result, both Venom, and Carnage were defeated, due to loud sound waves that weaken symbiotes. Martha later enters the scene and injects Connors with the antidote, becoming Connors again. Scorpion and Hobgoblin enter the warehouse where Norman Osborn died. Spidey defeated them both, with help from the Black Cat. During the battle, the True Believers appear, and visited the dock and found Doc Ock, and resurrected him.
End
Spidey web-slings to save her, only to be confronted by the Sinister Syndicate, who was waiting. Spidey received help again from the Black Cat. During the battle, Aunt May found one of Peter's costumes, and she realized that Peter Parker was Spider-Man. Scorpion spread some poisonous acid on Spidey, but it didn't work. The Hobgoblin throws a pumpkin bomb, but Spidey dodged it and it went into a building. As a result, both Venom, and Carnage were defeated, due to loud sound waves that weaken symbiotes. The rubble almost fell on an innocent kid, but he was saved by Capt. Stacy. Martha later enters the scene and injects Connors with the antidote, becoming Connors again. Spidey tries to see if Capt. Stacy was OK, but he was dying. He tries to take him into the hospital, but he died. Spidey lost a friend, and two villains got away: Scorpion and Hobgoblin. They enter the warehouse where Norman Osborn died. Spidey defeated them both, with help from the Black Cat. During the battle, the True Believers appear, and visited the dock and found Doc Ock, and resurrected him. At the end, at Capt. Stacy's funeral, Gwen Stacy blames Spider-Man for her dad's death.
End
Real End
i think that they should include all of the venom spawns inthe upcoming films, just an idea
r-rated movie on their hands.
and i really hope they dont do a spin-off Tv show on fox like with terminator.
but i have checked up on sam raimi and i learned that he is not very fond of venom, carnage, pretty much the whole symbiote story, leading to reasons and odd theories regarding why venom did not get very much screen time in SM3. Anyone out there right now to answer my question or continue on?
switching my name to : The Five 2
i don't peter parker a.k.a spiderman lost his relationship with his
girl m.j a.k.a mary jane watson and lost of his bestest firend harry
by that venom guy but now peter a.k.a spi9derman will face his demon's that now came from hell eddie brock a.k.a venom
and that crazy ass serial killer of cletus kasady a.k.a the sick evil
carnage and scorpion this movie when it comes out is gonna be good i just can't stop thinking about you know i love that carnage guy he's just sick minded fool ya'll know....................
billy bob aka jason smith
And i hope they dont use sylvester stallone, he is too old, the last rambo movie sucked, but please dont start any rambo talk.
Hope u like cause I like.
Robert Fisk is the master of all crime. He has hated Spider-Man since the beginning.
Odds: 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999%
2) Dock ock
3) Venom, sandman and new goblin one villain not very good
4) Carnage, Rhino, Shocker, Scorpion, Lizard and Doc Ock
5) Electro, vulture, mysterio, hydro man, chameleon and morbius
6) Kingpin and the sinister six Doc Ock, Sandman, Rhino, Scorpion, Shocker, Electro and also might be vulture
BLACK MAN
Scene 2: It has been two years after Harry Osborn's death, and Peter is web slinging. While he web slings, he thinks about the good times with his best friend and his death.
Scene 3: The cemetery. Peter stares at Norman and Harry Osborn's tombstones. Peter says and the same time he sobs "Harry. Why did you have to die?! You sacrificed your life to save me." Peter's tears dropped on Harry's grave. Behind a tree, a stranger under the name of Mac Gargan stares at Peter. He receives a call. "This is J. Jonah Jameson. Where are you, Gargan?!" Gargan then says "I'm at the cemetery. I see Parker looking at Harry Osborn's tombstone." Peter then leaves the cemetery and heads for school on his motorcycle.
Scene 4: At a train station, millionaire fashion designer, Roderick Kingsley, returns from a trip to California, but since his house was destroyed by the Green Goblin in Movie #1 he needs to find a new home. He then leaves the station and goes on a taxi drive.
Scene 5: Peter arrives at school, and once he enters the hallway and sees a new girl. Peter goes and talks to her. He says "Hi there." And the girl notices Peter and asks "Who are you?
"I'm Peter Parker."
"Well, it's a pleasure to meet you, I'm Felicia Hardy."
"Felicia Hardy? Wait, isn't your father...?"
"Yeah. He was a cat burglar. It wasn't long until he was killed by another cat burglar named Cletus Kasady."
The bell rings.
Scene 6: Dr. Connors class.
Connors introduces Felicia to the class. "Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like you to meet a new student: Felicia Hardy." Later Connors introduces a serum. "This is my serum. I pump some of it into my latest invention, the Neogenic Recominator. Once I use this on me, it can regrow my missing arm." Then the bell rings and Pete leaves.
i have to go with mel she had a point with carnage an venom.
so this is how you should bring back venom if you are goin to hav carnage.
scene 1-intro
scene 2- have peter explain about what kinds of enemies he faced. like talk about them in oder from green goblin down to venom.except show how he beat venom again in the end try an giv mary jane somethin better to do than making spider-man a soap opera.
scene 3- show the venom takin over another spiders body making it evolve over time. that takes care of venom
if u want to hear about carnage jus email me at malik_sookram@hotmail.com
Scene 8: Spider-Man arrives at the scene, and confronts the robber, who also stole a lady's purse. Spidey quickly defeats him and returns the purse to its original owner, which is Aunt May, and she says "Thanks." Spidey then web slings to the Daily Bugle, as the robber was taken to the Ravencraft Institute.
Scene 9: At the Daily Bugle, Peter sells his pictures to J. Jonah Jameson, but he is shocked to see a new employee, Mac Gargan, the guy who appeared at the cemetery. He was hired last week. Peter then goes home. Jameson asks Gargan to come with him.
Scene 10: Jameson escorts Gargan to Dr. Farley Stillwell & Ashley Kafka's lab. He whispers to Gargan the plans. It was to give him super powers and defeat Spider-Man. Jameson lies to Kafka & Stillwell, when he says "I want Mac Gargan to become a superhero, so he can help Spidey." He then winks at Gargan and Gargan winks back. Kafka makes the costume and Stillwell gave him superpowers. As a result, Mac Gargan became the Scorpion.
Scene 11: Roderick Kingsley arrives at the Osborn Mansion, which is abandoned now, except for Harry's butler, Bernard. He knocks on the door, and Bernard opens it. He then gives Kingsley the grand tour of the Osborn Mansion, when he stopped, Kingsley notices a crack on a mirror. He breaks the mirror and it leads to a chamber.
Scene 12: Roderick Kingsley turns on the light and sees Osborn's Goblin Lair. He sees Oz chemicals, the latest Goblin devices, and a door. He enters the door but it closed and Goblin Gas began forming. "What the?! The door closed. What is this? This is a trap. What is this gas forming? WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME?!"After it all stops, he noticed that he has big muscles. He then steals all the Goblin devices and Oz chemicals, creates a new costume, and becomes the Hobgoblin.
Scene 13: While Bernard was out getting groceries, the Hobgoblin blows up the Osborn Mansion.
Scene 14: Peter arrives home, and goes to bed. He had nightmares about Harry Osborn's death.
TBC Next Scene, Scene 15
Scene 16
Lizard(of course)
Venom rebirth(duh)
Carnage(why not?)
its gotta be
Scene 17: 1:00 AM at Connor's house. Martha is asleep, but Dr. Connors wakes up and realizes he has yellow eyes and is beginning to grow a tail. He rushes to his lab. "I need some water so I can--.What the?! Why are my eyes yellow? What's growing on my butt? What's happening to me?!"
Scene 18: Once Connors arrives in his lab, he becomes the Lizard. He ravages his lab, and a tube was opened during the rubble. The tube was labeled SYMBIOTE GOO.
Scene 19: In the Ravencraft Institute, we have our eyes on the robber Spidey battled earlier. He kept laughing and laughing. He enters the Institute, with two guards one of them say "Ravencraft, welcome Cletus Kasady." They throw Kasady in the cell. And he calls a group called the True Believers to come. Kasady told them to resurrect Eddie Brock Jr. and Venom.
"True Believers!"
"What do you want Kasady?!"
"I want you to resurrect Eddie Brock Jr., and Venom. Will you do that?"
"Why do you want us to do that?"
"Because, I'm big fan of Brock and Venom, and things aren't the same without him. Will you do it or not?"
"Why should we?"
"Because, if you don't, you'll regret it! HAHAHA!" He pulls out a knife.
"OK. We'll do it. Just don't kill us."
"THEN GO, NOW!"
The True Believers leave. As they leave, Kasady laughs again.
"HAHAHA! Soon, Brock, you'll be back. BACK BABY!!! HAHAHA!"
As Kasady continues his laughter, the symbiote from Connor's lab hops on his foot and becomes Carnage. Carnage kills the guards and escapes Ravencraft.
Scene 20: The True Believers arrive and they resurrect, Eddie Brock Jr., and Venom, as Kasady said.
Scene 21: The 5 villains (Scorpion, Hobgoblin, Lizard, Carnage, and Venom) arrive at an abandoned warehouse. They form the Sinister Syndicate there. But a girl eavesdrops on them. It was Felicia Hardy, the new girl.
Scene 22: Felicia arrives at her home and makes a new costume. She becomes the Black Cat. She vows to help Spidey.
Next scene, scene #23
Rhino
Carnage
Doc Ock
Shocker
Scorpion
Electro
Mysterio
Sandman
Hydroman
Lizard
Venom
Owl
Gladiator
Juggernaut
Dr Doom
Hob goblin
Green Goblin
Scene 24: Peter walks out his door for some fresh air. Then Ursula Ditkovich says that Mary Jane called. Peter then talks to MJ.
"Hey MJ."
"Hey Peter."
"It's been a long time since I last heard from you."
"Same with you. Will you go to the diner with me"
"Yeah. Sure."
Venom
Doc Ock
Green Goblin
Hobgoblin
New Goblin
Sandman
Lizard
Carnage
Scorpion
Electro
Hydro-Man
Vulture
Man-Wolf
Mysterio
Kraven
Rhino
Chameleon
Shocker
Owl
Spider-Man 2: Doctor Octopus
Spider-Man 3: New Goblin, Sandman, and Venom
Spider-Man 4: Sinister Syndicate (Carnage, Lizard, Hobgoblin, Venom, and Scorpion)
Ally: Black Cat
Spider-Man 5: Sinister Six (Electro, Vulture, Hydro-Man, Doctor Octopus, Kraven, and Mysterio)
Ally: Black Cat
Spider-Man 6: Jackal, Kaine, Spider-Carnage, Alison Mongraine, Sandman, Green Goblin, and Gaunt.
Ally: Scarlet Spider
Ally: New Goblin
actors are dead in the movies already
Rhino all time favorite
Carnage all time favorite
Doc Ock all time favorite
Shocker all time favorite
Scorpion all time favorite
sandman middle
lizard middle
hydroman middle
mysterio middle
owl ok
electro decent electricity
manwolf ok
gladiator very good with blades
venom got same abilites don't like
vulture no decent strength
kraven no decent strength
hobgoblin poor villain
Green goblin poor villain
not so much mysterio or the lizard tho.
but not so much the lizard or mysterio.
And yes, there were a lot of other villains they could choose to go with, however, by putting carnage in the 3rd movie (which they did a piss poor job with), any other villain choice aside from carnage would be a severe let down to the fans of the comic book.
I think it most likely that Marvel will choose to scrap any further spidey pictures, and focus more on what few characters they have left that still have potential. i.e. the upcoming x-men: origins.
yes there is!!
and i think carnage would be pretty cool for a villain.
or maybe electro??
and a lot of people said tht spiderman 3 was the worst spiderman. i thought it was the best one!! but thts just my opinion. i thought it was pretty cool how peter used the sound waves to defeat venom, even tho he SHOULDNT HAVE DIED.
that would be cool though.
whoo!!
i mean, why wouldnt there be a 4th spiderman movie??
sam raimi [sry about spelling] is already thinking about villain ideas soo it makes no sense when people are saying there is going to be no spiderman 4.
Tomorrow is the 1st anniversary of people posting their comments on Spider-Man 4. I thought I give Man-Wolf a chance. So instead of Rhino replacing Kraven after he shoots himself, I think Man-Wolf should replace him, and Rhino appears in Spider-Man 6.
1. Green Goblin
2. Doctor Octopus
3. New Goblin, Sandman, and Venom
Ally: New Goblin
4. Sinister Syndicate: Lizard, Carnage, Hobgoblin, Venom, Scorpion, and Mysterio.
Ally: Black Cat
5. Sinister Six: Doctor Octopus, Hydro-Man, Electro, Vulture, Kraven, and Mysterio.
By the end: Doctor Octopus, Hydro-Man, Electro, Vulture, Man-Wolf, and Shocker.
Ally: Black Cat
6. Jackal, Rhino, Kaine, Spider-Carnage, Alison Mongraine, Sandman, Green Goblin, and Gaunt.
Ally: Scarlet Spider
he could easily be in the same boat and could even be turned into the new venom which could possibly have venom and carnage in it.
I know it will not make it but there is also that idea of scorpion (mac gargen) to be a villain in the story. I always like scorpion so i think he should be in the movie.
There will be Rhino and Carnage as the main villians. And Sandman comes back for some sort of revenge. So folks, there will be a Spiderman 4. The cast will start to work on that movie in 2009, and are hoping to release the movie in 2011.
From your freindly neighborhood, SPIDERMAN
Then hopefully if they make sm5 it should be with The lizard returning if they dont kill him in sm4 with a lizard army created from his DNA like in the cartoon series. Then Rhino and Shocker can team up (exp. In sm3 spidey could have defeated them and then didnt teamup until sm4 then plotted their revenge for sm5). Then Kraven the Hunter is paid to unmask spidey by jj ,but during their fight the lizard army attacks so they decide to team up. They force the army back underground,but then Kraven tells spidey he smells rhino hide then Kraven is jumped by Rhino when spidey trys to help hes jumped by Shocker tired spidey and Kraven retreat. Then they go to the sewers and get Conners to control The lizard thus stopping the army. Then they fight Rhino and Shocker, but this time they get help from The lizards army.Then show a figure in a office watching the battle on a tv screen and on his deskis a nameplate that says "MR.TOMBSTONE".Thus leading up to sm6.
P.S. are you guys retarded?
1. Green Goblin
2. Doctor Octopus
3. New Goblin, Sandman, and Venom.
Ally: New Goblin
4. Sinister Syndicate (Carnage, Lizard, Hobgoblin, Venom, Scorpion, and Electro).
Ally: Black Cat
5. Sinister Six (Doctor Octopus, Hydro-Man, Electro, Vulture, Kraven (Man-Wolf), and Mysterio (Shocker)).
Ally: Black Cat
6. Jackal, Rhino, Kaine, Spider-Carnage, Gaunt, Alison Mongraine, Sandman, and Green Goblin.
Ally: Scarlet Spider
why is becuz they where in the games
Later, when Peter goes to the Daily Bugle to submit the pictures he took during the Heist. When he gets there, he is told by Jameson that he (Jameson) is producing a big-budget movie about Spiderman, exposing him for the menace that he truly is, and wants Peter to help with the storyboarding because of his experience in photographing him. After some negotiation, Peter agrees. This is going to be an all-out blockbuster, evidenced by Jameson's hiring of two extrememly successful Hollywood filmmakers: Director Diana Beck and her husband (and special effects genius) Quentin Beck.
During the first day of on-location filming, The set is attacked by members of the same gang that attempted the bank heist at the beginning of the movie, mistaking the stuntman dressed as Spider-Man as the real one (so effective are Beck's special effects)Peter comes to the rescue as the real Spider-Man of course, but not before Diana dies in the crossfire. Not to be undone, Jameson takes the reigns of directing, despite the fact that he has no prior experience in filmmaking. Quentin Beck is traumatized, and goes to an old, wealthy friend and benefactor (who, unbeknownst to Beck, is also the leader of the gang) to give him money so he can wage a private war against Spider-Man. He agrees. Beck begins stalking Spider-Man and eventually discovers that he is Peter Parker. He then begins to use his expertise with special effects to try to convince Peter Parker/Spider-Man that he is losing his mind.
Meanwhile, Professor Curt Connors has been attempting to create a formula that can help regenerate body parts. The same shady gang leader who is financing Beck has also been giving money to Connors (legitimatley) for his experiment. Eventually, Dr. Connors thinks he has isolated the correct genes from several different lizards, which he combines into an aeresol gene therapy spray. He invites the gang leader to watch his first test on laboratory animals. However, during the setup, the can that olds the genes bursts, filling the airtight test room with spray. Connors inhales the spray and, after seeing his missing arm grow back, slowly transforms into The Lizard. The Benefactor (who is revealed at this point to be Norman Osborne) sees the animalist result of the experiments, and sees it as an opportunity to attack Spider-Man from both the physical and psychological fronts. The next morning, the effect wears off and Connors is blackmailed by Osborne, who threatens to pull the funding unless Connors allows himself to be used as a weapon against Spider-Man. He regrettably agrees
(1 or 2 skirmishes with the lizard happen in between the following scenes)
Meanwhile, Beck has realized that as much as he hates Spider-Man, he doesn't have it in him to take a human life. He then decides to try and do the next best thing: Faking the death of the one who he loves the most. That night, Peter is going to be in the audience at the The Jekyl and Hyde play that MJ's in. During one of MJ's scenes, the lights dim and Beck appears on stage in a blast of smoke, in the guise of Mysterio. He seemingly slits MJ's throat and stabs her multiple times, before making both of them disappear in another cloud of smoke (in reality, this is done via a trapdoor in the stage). He hides her at Osborne's headquarters.
This traumatizes Peter severely. He almost decides to quit fighting crime, until he finds a message from Mysterio in his apartment inviting him to a battle in an abandoned stadium (that Osborne has been using as a hideout). When he gets there, he is immediately attacked by The Lizard. Beck has equipped the stadium with various special effect devices that he uses to distract Spider-Man. One of these is smoke machines, which use dry ice (or liquid nitrogen, either or). Spidey recognizes this and uses it to lower the body temperature of The Lizard (him being ectothermic, of course) until he passes out.
At this point, Osborne reveals himself as a new, even more souped-up version of the Green Goblin. Somehow he has become even stronger since their last battle (presumably he took another dose of the performance enhancers). At one point, one of the goblin's explosives blasts through the wall of the stadium, revealing Mysterio working the controls of the effects machines. Seeing him sends Spidey into a rage. He pushes away the Goblin and starts attacking Mysterio, who, despite the gadgets he has cooked up, has no chance fighting against Spidey. The Goblin watches this fight with amusement. But, at one point, Spidey punches through a wall and reveals the gear used by the robbers at the Heist and set attack. At this point, Mysterio, who finally realizes Osborne was the one who caused his wife's death, reveals his identity to Peter. They then team up against the Goblin. The overwhelm him and finally kill him when they knock him off of his glider and into the claws of The Lizard (who has regained consciousness after the smoke machine ran out of fuel)
sometimes there are things in life that never change "peter puts on the suit" sometimes there are things that never get a second thought "a shadow shaped like Eddie Brock moves down a busy street"
but sometimes these things are more sinister than we are led to believe "we see a shadow on an alley wall shaped like Eddie Brock transforming into Venom"
A great act of heroism can sometimes be the beginning of a great tragedy "Spiderman swings in to the alley and we here help help"
a great tragedy "we see Venom feeding on the life force of a woman" "Spiderman gasps" "Venom looks up and leaps leaving the woman dying on the ground"
if someone told you Spiderman had the easiest job in the world someone lied "we see Venom smile" with great power comes great responsibility (then we hear in Peter Parkers voice Uncle Ben) "and this huge fight scene between Venom and Spiderman begins and continues for about 5 minutes" "then we see both Venom and Spiderman struggling before they both fall to the ground" "the police come rushing into the alley"
"then a doctor says we have to remove his mask and we see only one surgeon operating on Spidermans face then Peter wakes up with the mask on and asks the doctor where Eddie is the doctor replies the black Spiderman thing is now in jail on a life sentence though I'd hate to be him he has to share a cell with Cletus Cassidy" "the doctor leaves and upon arriving back finds the window is open and Spiderman is gone" "the opening credits start"
Not long after getting all the lame crap out of the way the above will have key plot points like Eddie breaks out with the aid of symbiote he managed to swallow becoming venom yet again and a couple of weeks later a piece of symbiote that a guard shot off of Venom is discovered by Cletus who becomes carnage before Cletus discovers it though we see another battle between Spiderman and Venom where Spiderman wins and unfortunately Peter being afraid of Venoms power locks Eddie in an unbreakable cell that belonged to Harry's father Norman separated from the symbiote which is in an unbreakable container which also belonged to Norman it is revealed that Harry had changed his will at the last minute before the battle just in case so that Spiderman would inherit everything of Harry's anyway Venom eventually spills the beans to Spiderman about everything and begs for freedom but Peter is still doubtful then as peter leaves the room venom starts shouting angrily when carnage arrives mid-sentence he leaves peter wounded and dying Eddie afraid nobody will save him goes mad and manages to draw the suit through the glass with his extreme increase in anger and fear he puts on the suit and breaks free suddenly Carnage realises Venom is free and returns immediately and attempts to kill Venom while rambling he is the only villain New York needs in an awesome Venom/Carnage fight scene Venom escapes and creeps back later afraid he cannot defeat Carnage alone he uses some of the viles in the lab to revive Peter who was seemingly dead Venom explains the situation and begs Peter for help Peter reluctantly agrees then sees a report on the news about Dr. Conners becoming the lizard.
So Peter and Venom subdue the lizard and capture him when Carnage seeing an opportunity swings in frees the lizard and has a huge fight with Venom and Spiderman just as it seems Carnage is doomed the lizard knocks out Spiderman and Carnage escapes while Venom tends to him then we see Carnage making some plans with notes on paper about peters life and what could disturb him as Spiderman for about half an hour the movie concentrates on Peters struggle helping Eddie evade from the police while capturing the lizard finally they capture the lizard and return him to the state of Dr. Conners who is described as in a stable condition then it is revealed that Carnage has captured Gwen Stacey rather than Mary Jane who becomes obsessed that Peter is cheating on her when she finds out Gwen was Peters first love but he was always too nervous to profess his love he calmly convinces her he is not but when the big final fight scene on top of the daily bugle with Venom and Spiderman versus Carnage rolls in Spiderman has to save Gwen he of course does and Venom grabs one of Harry's old bombs he had stolen and hidden in the symbiote and reveals his plan all along was to nail carnage and blow them both up thus protecting the world from the symbiote forever Peter tries to stop him but can not and both Venom and Carnage are killed.
On arriving back on ground Mary Jane sees Gwen Stacy and goes mad at Peter and begins ranting on at him Peter starts to get mad and yells ITS OVER to her and says he can't take this much mis-trust in a relationship suddenly a doctor running through the street stops and says to Peter the vile didn't work he's not stable Peter says what and the doctor hurriedly says and hes gone black I don't know whats wrong with him all of a sudden (and this was my own idea just to add some spice to the movie) we see the lizard ram up the street in a symbiote suit which is a black version of the lizard cackling crazily he rams right into Mary Jane right in the middle of Peter trying to say a spiders work is never done at about the time he says is suddenly Peter runs to Mary Jane who is lying on the ground and not moving he freaks out and the scene cuts to black and fades back in at a hospital scene where a nurse says to Peter we don't know if she will make it in fact we are very doubtful she could be in a coma forever the nurse leaves and Peter starts crying and says I'm so sorry MJ.
spiderman 5-carnage,mysterio
I would like to see the film open around Halloween rather then early summer.
I would like to see as the Villains: Venom, Morbius and the Lizard and throw in Calypso...
And set Spiderman 5 up with a major Marvel Universe Baddie like Ultron, Doctor Doom or Red Skull and team up with an Avenger or two.
In 6-- Some form of the Sinister Six, only makes sense.
When there's money involved holywood has done some pretty stupid s**t to bring back a character.
Hello, 20 plus years of slasher movies with the same bad guys?
Even if he's not in the next movie ( I think he should be, they didn't use him in 3) he'll be back if they keep making films.
The shots they used for his "demise" revealed no solid evidence of any such thing.
So no....
You can't say that Venom is dead.
There's no such thing in a fictional world anyway.
1. Spider-man
2.Spider-woman
3.Spider-boy
1.Spider-Man
2.Spider-Woman
3.Spider-Boy
4.Spider-Girl
They can fight Lizard,Carnage,Scorpion and Rhino this way yo can get more villians in less movies
4. Sinister Syndicate: Electro, Carnage, Venom, Lizard, Hobgoblin, and Scorpion
Ally: Black Cat
5. Sinister Six: Doctor Octopus, Hydro-Man, Electro, Vulture, Kraven (Man-Wolf), and Mysterio (Shocker).
Ally: Black Cat
6. Jackal, Menace, Rhino, Kaine, Spider-Carnage, Gaunt, Alison Mongraine, Sandman, and Green Goblin.
Ally: Scarlet Spider
Bad Guys in 4th movie need to beCarnage, Lizard, and Man-spider
Good Guys: spider-man and Black Cat
Venom: Topher Grace
Carnage: Jim Carrey
Lizard: Dylan Baker
Hobgoblin: Mark Hamill
Electro: James Arnold Taylor
Scorpion: Bruce Campbell
Black Cat: Jessica Biel
1. Green Goblin
2. Doctor Octopus
3. New Goblin, Sandman, and Venom
Ally: New Goblin
4. Sinister Syndicate: *Carnage*, *Lizard*, *Venom*, Electro, Scorpion, and Hobgoblin
Ally: *Black Cat*
5. Sinister Six: Doctor Octopus, Hydro-Man, Electro (Chameleon), Vulture, Kraven (Man-Wolf), and Mysterio (Shocker)
Ally: Black Cat
6. Jackal, Menace, Rhino, Kaine, Spider-Carnage, Gaunt, Alison Mongraine, Sandman, and Green Goblin.
Ally: Scarlet Spider
P.S.: The *s mean that they are official for Spidey 4.
but back to back(cause puting 3 villans in one movie wasnt a very good idea)that should be awsome
also, they could put scorpion in, and towards the end, hav mac gargon become the new venom, same as in the comics
then, u get spidey gettin his butt kicked til sum other hero (maybe cameo by iron man?) comes in and saves his neck.
culd end by havin said hero askin spidey to join the avengers, cos they r makin a movie, that is a gd way 2 put him in, and poss bring new venom or carnage back 4 avengers
spidy goona defeat the sin 6. Now i have heared rumours that carnage and lizard are gonna be the villains of spindrman 4. But i think that Cranage is a really scary and gory character to be in a pg rated film. Also in spiderman 2 remember when Maryjane walks out on j. johna jameson's son? Well he is actully the villian man wolf, so he may be in it. Also, rihno, vulture craven and electro are to goofy and corny villians to be in a spiderman movie. Peace!
then when iron man 2 comes out the spider man could be in it and the avengers to
Kingpin
1. Green Goblin.
2. Doctor Octopus.
3. New Goblin, Sandman, and Venom.
Ally: New Goblin
4. Sinister Syndicate: Carnage, Lizard, Anti-Venom, Scorpion, Hobgoblin, Freak, and Electro.
Ally: Black Cat
5. Sinister Six: Doctor Octopus, Hydro-Man, Electro (Chameleon), Vulture, Kraven (Man-Wolf), and Mysterio (Shocker).
Ally: Black Cat
6. Jackal, 5. Sinister Six: Doctor Octopus, Hydro-Man, Electro (Chameleon), Vulture, Kraven (Man-Wolf), and Mysterio (Shocker)
Ally: Black Cat
6. Jackal, Menace, Rhino, Kaine, Spider-Carnage, Gaunt, Alison Mongraine, Sandman, and Green Goblin.
Ally: Scarlet Spider
P.S.: These are my last adjustments for 4.
That's the way to go.
DOCTOR OCTOPUS
remember a whil back when you were writing the scenes for spider man 4.... well keep writing them. They were interesting!!!! You finished at scene 24... keep goin!!!!!!!!!!!
Jim Carrey for Carnage!!!
hey they might mix serise i think that sandman will still be a villin in sm4
because both villians would be gnarly to see, just prolly not together!
And im sorry i talked to one of my big comic friends and he said that toby plays peter how he is suppose to be played but i think he is just a horrible actor like i never thought till this last spider-man it was horrible, im sorry, plz find a new spider-man
they had a good script... a good cast sighned on... and if sam rami
(director) returned. Kristen Dunst said she would returened if toby\
and Rami returned. Rami ( director) all returned. J,k simmons who
plays j.johna jameson and dylan Baker who plays curt conners said they would return.
the big screen cause hes just pretty a guy in a green suit who
shoots gunk out of its tail. My fav villian is doc ock but since he was in spidey man 2 my second fav villian is Shocker. In the comics Lizard breaks Spidey mans arm and then Shocker comes out of nowhere and beats defeats spiderman in a battle..... so that could
work right?
Jim Carrey for Carnage!!!!
Scene 1: Opening Credits
Scene 2: It has been two years since the death of Harry Osborn. Peter is web-slinging around the city, and is delivering flowers to Harry's tombstone.
Scene 3: Peter visits the cemetery. Harry's tombstone is to the right of Norman's (like in Spider-Man Unlimited #2: Maximum Carnage Part 14). Peter puts the flowers in front of Harry's tombstone. Peter sobs and says "Harry, why did you have to die?! You sacrificed your life to save me." Peter's tears fell on Harry's tombstone. While he was sobbing, a journalist was watching from a tree. Peter leaves with a monologue.
Scene 4: The scene cuts to a train station in Staten Island where a millionaire fashion designer walks out the train. His name is Roderick Kingsley.
Scene 5: Peter visits MJ house and they hug. Peter asks MJ out and she accepts. MJ then notices that her mother died. Peter goes to his apartment and Peter goes to sleep as a thunderstorm begins.
Scene 6: Midnight. An electrician named Max Dillon is going home, when someone said "Dillon! It's Harris, he's stuck on a high tension pole. Help him, NOW!" Max says "All right I'll do it." Max then saves Harris but gets struck by lightning.
Scene 7: 5:00 AM. Mount Sinai Hospital. Max wakes up and is shocked to see that he's still alive and he has powers. He then busts out of the hospital. When he arrives home he makes a new costume and takes the name Electro. He was poor so he was going to use his powers for evil.
TBC
and ALEX: what are you TALKING ABOUT?!?!
anyway my idea for the movie
opening credits then spiderman swings around narrarating about being spiderman then swings into his apartment only to see m.j. waiting for him happily he unmasked and says it peaceful so far then he hears police sirens and m.j says "go get em tiger" spidey smiles and remask to se what going on only to see a minor bank robery he easily takes them down and says "better go to m.j" spidey swings away and everything fades to black for 1 second now we see D.r Connor trying to make a serum that will regrow his arm he tries to put it on video he injects himself and starts to feel dizzy starts turning green very slowly he then smacks the camera away and we here him screaming wich turns monster-like. Then we see peterwith m.j walking he then ask her on a date. On the date peter takes her to a nice grassy plain he starts talking "Mary Jane i love you to prove it im asking you to marry me Mary Jane Watson will you marry me" Peter says on one knee ."Yes"M.J replies they hug and she cries tears of joy. a few hours later he knocks on a door and who opens it is Aunt may peter asks her to sit and he tells her he proposed to m.j and she said yes.Aunt may becomes happy and tells him about uncle ben and her.When peter gets to his apartment he falls asleep then the camera goes to a place which looks destoyed then we see the alien symbiote crawling away.nowWe see a man in jail looking phsycotic then a cop says heres your dinner mr.kasady after finnishing his dinner he sees the symbiote going on his hand then it took over his whole body when the cop returns and says "cletus are you done"? when the camera turn we see CARNAGE!!!! HE BREAKS out and kills all the gaurds and smiles then we see spiderman swinging into D.R Connors and he sees everything destroyed then he says"Doc everythig o.k in here" No answer then we here a monster voice then the Lizard attacks spiderman spiderman gets punched and punched until he doges a hit and starts punching the lizard spiderman then gets knocked out a window only to be saved by his web when he got back the lizard ran away spidey chased him when spidey caught him he was in an electrical building spidey threw web bombs at the lizard but all of them missed and the lizard started atacking spidey he slashed most of the left of spideys torso but spidey kept on fighting back he kicked the lizard when lizard charged spidey jumped out the way and lizard got electrecuted then turned back into D.R Connors and said "Thank you Spiderman" and died.Spidey swung into his apartment and called for M.j but no answer so he left and started swinging around new york to find m.j he saw Carnage holding m.j over the daily bugle so spidey swung in to save her he fought carnage but carnage kept beating spidey even destoying his costume spidey started fading until carnage sai"haha i am going to kill the red head as soon as i kill you" he went to deliver the finishing blow to spidey but spiderman doged it and fought back spidey kept punching carnage but carnage kicked spiderman into pipes wich fell and made a loud noise wich semed to hurt carnage but spidey kept m.j safe from carnage spidey then found a toxic can but he had to go threw carnage spidey tried to punch carnage but got punched backed spidey battle damaged costume spidey who couldnt beat carnage but when spidey ran to carnage he got knocked into a wall spidey then webbed carnages feet and then his fast
were sword fighting with them while they were flying in the air?
Pretty cool eh? i also think that if Harry Osborn is dead then
Harry should pass his mansion on to peter parker!!!!
(in no particular order)
1.Shocker
2.Carnage
3.Lizard
4.Morlon
5.Hobgoblin
Jim Carrey for Carnage!!!!!
She looks like she can easily be in the 4th installment of Spiderman.
Why do they move so fast away from supervillains stick with one awhile get to know them awhile before you move on thats like going through a book taking it back and buying another that you fing less adjustable to.
Peter Parker may have alot of villains but they need to find something better than constantly killing the supervillains we
love to hate.
I think if Peter and Mary Jane breakup than get back together
again things will get old bring an old villain back in the 5th that
people can grow acustumed to and keep doing that awhile until
no body nos whats gonna happen next but we know about the villains and break the border that says to keep super heroes
seperate I want to see a good catwomen slowly take her sanity
back so she can work with the Bat. Superman against wolverine
storm vs
Jim Carrey for Carnage!!!!!!!!
and jesus i didnt say carry wouldnt make a good carnage but its unlikley its gonna happen oh and this is confirmed toby mcguir is out he doesnt wanna play spidey anymore!!!
Now i personeley think Hydro-Man is gonna hit the big screen with venom possibley returning. If the director is comming back he was intrested in directing the hobbit two
be Shocker, Lizard, carnadge and venom and the black cat and venom should become ally's with spidey. In the comics Venom hates Carnadge and teams up with spidey to kill Carnadge. So Venom should first team up with Carnadge and later join Spidey to take him down.!!!!!!
if you write to far to the right some of the words get cut off.!!!
it is really anoying
!!!!!!!
Jim Carrey for Carnage
DON'T DISAGREE WITH ME!!!!!!
CARNAGE, LIZARD, SHOCKER, AND VENOM. Spidey's ally's should
be BLACK CAT, and VENOM should team up with spidey near the
end cause if you read the comics, CARNAGE almost kills
VENOM'S girlfriend... so VENOM wants CARNAGE dead. Anyways.
(starting from the begging) DR.Conners becoms Lizard and
since he is in his state, he wants everyone to be like him. So he goes around New York City trying to capture people so he can make them like him. Then Spidey
comes and they fight. LIZARD breaks Spideys arm (like in the
comics) and dissapears. (new scene) EDDIE BROCK somehow survived in spiderman 3 and now shares a cell in jail with CLETUS
CASSITY. HERMAN SCHULTS is an evil genius. He is in the cell
next to CLETUS and EDDIE and is CLETUS'S BEST FRIEND.
Later on you see HERMAN developes these gaunlets that shoots
blasts of shoking air. He escapes prision and while he does so,
causes a jail break.HERMAN is now SHOCKER. Most prisoners are re-capture but some escape, including EDDIE, CLETUS and HERMAN. They hide in an
ally. They later relize that they need food and HERMAN uses
his powers to rob a bank so they can get food. Spidey tries to stop
him but fails due to his broken arm. (New scene) Spidey finds out
Dr.conners is LIZARD and that he is capturing people and taking
them to his lab. Spidey goes to lab and invents a serum that will
change Lizard back to Curt Conners. (new scene) Symbonite escapes Conners lab and searches for eddie Brock so he can be with him. When Symbonite finnaly finds EDDIE he starts to go on
him and turn back to Venom. Cletus though wants some of the symbonite so he fights Eddie for some. CLETUS eventully gets
some....in fact he gets most of it, so he becomes stronger then
EDDIE. Now Venom and CARNADGE are born. VENOM, CARNAGE and
SHOCKER team up. They decide to kill Spider-man. They find out where SPIDEY is. Peter is studying with Gwen Stacy ( if you remember... EDDIE and GWEN were dating). Venom, Canage and
SHOCKER start attcking Peter. ( Since PETE does not have his Spidey suit on.. Gwen Finds out that Peter is Spiderman)
Since Pete has a brocken arm... he does not stand a chance against 3. Spidey is almost dead when CARNAGE decides that just for the fun of it to kill GWEN. VENOM gets mad and Starts beating up Carage. SHOCKER helps Carnage. Pete and Gwen get out of
harms way while they are all beating each other up. When Venom finnaly sees that GWEN is gone he leaves.
TBC
I know it is long but i think it is really good. I like put my lifs work into this comment. I have a brocken arm right now and i wrote that
comment. My arm is in serious pain. and it took me like an hour to rite it. So Please please please read it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks
Jim Carey for Carnge!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably the fourth movie will have the Lizard, Aquaman, and the Sandman.
(The Sandman can sacrifice himself to kill Aquaman. Water + Sand = Mud.)
Wouldn't anyone agree with me? They can save Venom and Carnage for Spiderman 5.
Stacy black cat.I know Falicia Hardy is black cat but Flint Marko
did not kill uncle ben.!!!! I will try and continue my story tommorow
!!!
A story could be developed when Spider-Man gains 4 extra arms.
Perhaps a Second Venom could emerge, as well as the rise of Carnage, causing Spidey & Venom to team up.
The Sinister Six could appear, including Rhino, Shocker, Mysterio, Scorpion, Hobgoblin & either a returning Dr.Octopus or another villain, such as Vulture, Hydroman or the Lizard.
I can't see an entire film where the Lizard is the main villain. Nor if Kraven the Hunter's put into the mix. Nor a storyline featuring Morbius the Living Vampire. However J.J.Jameson's Robots could make a good story.
An appearance of the Black Cat could be a treat.
Actually, Kraven would make a good secondary villain, especially to see his death relived on the Big Screen.
These are only some suggestions, but I'm not really an important person, and I won't be surprise if Spider-Man 4 follows a completely different path, or maybe a path I forgot to mention. Either way, hopefully we might get to see some special Marvel team-ups occur, such as the Avengers, or maybe we could see the events of Marvel Ultimate Alliance up on the big screen, or maybe even the Civil War events. It'll be awesome to see one of those on the big screen. =)
First of all Gwen turn into black cat, excuse me but isn't it felicia who is the black cat. Gwen is spider mans original love who was killed.
2nd there are loads of possible villains left, Kingpin, Carnage, Scorpion could hold a movie by himself and is a major spidey villain, Kraven, Morbious, The lizard, Madam web could play a major part in the movie, theres also loads of other viallains mentioned above in this post.
So theres plenty of enemys left for spidey to fight, and further down the line Doc oc, Green goblin can always be brought back cos how many times in comic books have villains died and been brought back !!
Thats my bit :P
put the ideah in your story was pretty good
Doc Ock, who was the leader of the S6, is presumed to have died in the SM series. If they pull a soap-opera technic and raise him from the dead, why would he still be a villian when it was clear at the end of SM2 that he "didn't want to die a monster" and made amends for his wrongs. The same with Sandman... He had made amends for his wrong doings at the end of SM3, especially in relation to Uncle Ben's death. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY.. Doc Ock and Sandman know who SM is!!!! If Raimi creates a movie that features Doc Ock and Sandman, along with other villians and they KNOW his identity, AND Spiderman survives at the end of the movie, IT WILL BE THE WORST COMIC BOOK ADAPTED MOVIE EVER!!!!!!!! It'll be worst than the idea of Lex Luthor in every Superman movie ever!!!
Now, this is what I believe SM4 should entail. Obviously, Dr. Connors/Lizard will be a great story to focus on a friendship gone wrong. Where as in the last three SM movies, Harry and Peter's relationship went from good to bad then sorta okay, SM and The Lizards will be different because it wont technically be by choice, which would be a great story. The Lizard has no idea of his other persona and is a true weapon of mass destruction (bet ya Bush is reading this now). Chaotic, violent and animalistic - The lizard would create a great story to involve SM in a physical and emotional battle. [Crazy thought - wouldn't it be cool if Dr.Connors was going through a troubling time in his life that includes problems at the University (his job), his wife murdered by a serial killer (Kassidy/Carnage) who also destroys his lab in the process, injurying his child and himself who tried to stop the attack and the killer unknowingly host the remaining symbiote that Connors had in SM3 as he gets away (which the symbiote will be revealed at the end of the movie merging with Kassidy leading to SM5's villain, Carnage) and all the troubling events lead Connor to self-experimentations to grow his arm pushing him to become the Lizard]
As much as I love the idea of the Lizard, he cannot carry the story alone. I believe the second villain should be a toss up between either Kraven or Electro.
I believe Kraven would be the greatest addition if The Lizard is one of the villians because the story would follow SM trying to capture The Lizard to help him, but Kraven trying to capture The Lizard to hang him as a trophy and SM has to prevent Kraven from completing his goal. It will be a truly interesting story to see SM trying to save a friend who has become a villain (who will kill SM without a second thought) and defeat another villain who wants to kill both the other villian (Lizard) and SM. Although Kraven has no super-super powers that will astound on screen like Sandman, I strongly support this story and believe they can make it up with the CGI on the Lizard. SM would have tons of jokes on him, as usual, but Kraven will prove himself to be more than a challenge.
Electro would be a great enemy if Kraven is not used. Electro's story should not fully relate to The Lizard but mix SM in the midst of both villains. Electro should be a villain-for-hire, hired by an unrevealed crime lord (?) created to stop SM specifically due to crime at an all-time low because of SM. Trying to save one and capture the other. Electro should be a major, major challenge to SM, wearing him out to the point that he seeks The Lizard to somehow assist him. Not an easy task with Connors lost in The Lizard's animalistic mind state.
Besides the villains, I believe that Peter's life should be a little better. Whether, Kraven or Electro is chosen, Peter should be on his way to graduate from college, top of the class (which may make Connor's/The Lizard's involvement more troubling for him) and successfully proposing to MJ, who answers yes, leading to a wedding in SM5. He will still be suffering from the lost of Harry his best friend and have his full-time job at the Bugle. Also, May's role in the series should start to come to an end as she is revealed to be sick/dying, which would set up a classic scene for SM5. Also, Felicia Hardy should still be in the mix.
At the end of it all, SM should have defeated The Lizard and Kraven or Electro should have died in some fashion, but not at the hands of SM. The wedding will be shortly coming between Peter and MJ, May is sick/dying, and Carnage should be revealed to have involvement in SM5, but won't be the only villain...
VILLAINS I RULED OUT:
VENOM:I love Venom as a villain, but his story was not built upon strongly in SM3 and they killed him at the end of it. It would look stupid to bring him back after he only made appearance for the last 20 minutes of SM3 and SM beat him that quick.
DOC OCK: Died in SM2. If he was brought back, he knows Peter's identity and is too smart to have that information and not succeed in killing him or atleast a relative (hint, hint... Aunty May)
GREEN GOBLIN: I'm tired of seeing him. Has anyone else realized he's been every film - whether in the actual form of GG, Norman as a flashback or Gobby Jr
SANDMAN: Should not return the very next movie. Perhaps SM5 or SM6, yet briefly mentioned in SM4 in a Bugle paper.
RHINO: Do I need to explain...
Can you guys tell me what you think of my plot for SM4 (two entries above this one) ? I know it still needs work, but I would like to get feedback....
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Continueing from top
Now that Gwen knows Peter is SPIDER-MAN, she tells him that she
wants to help him fight the bad guys. Peter tells Gwen that she will
get killed if she does and then peter leaves.
(new scene) VENOM goes to ally becausew he wants CARNAGE
dead for trying to kill Gwen. SHOCKER IS getting food at this time
and is not assisting Canage but CANAGE is winning since he is
stronger. Then SPIDEY comes out of nowhere and now it is a battle between CANAGE, VENOM and SPIDEY. Then cops come and they
all leave in opposite directions.
(new scene) Gwen is constantlly working out so she will become stronger and so she will be able to help SPIDEY. Then one day she
goes to Dr.Conners lab for some random reason. Then she finds a
secret room in dr.conners lab. She searches it. She finds gadets
that dr.conners have invented she puts the gadets and finds out
what they do. once she finds out what they do, she goes home,
makes a costume and the BALCK CAT is born.
(new scene) We see SHOCKER inventing a giant bomb (remember
SHOCKER is a genius) the bomb is strong enough to blow up of
half New-york. SHOCKER tells CARNAGE that the bomb will be ready
in a few- days. Meanwhile BLACK-CAT is spiying on them. Then she
leavs to tell Peter.
(New scene) Black -cat tells Peter about SHOCKER and CARNAGE planning to blow up city ( black cat is in her costume so Peter does not no that Gwen is BLACK CAT. They agree to team and they go to spy on CARNAGE AND SHOCKER.
(NEW SCENE) They find the bomb and relize CARNAGE or SHOCKER
are not in sight. SPIDER-MAN examins bomb and relizez that the bomb is to compicated for him to disconnect. He suddenly thinks
of Dr.Conners and relizez that he could probably disconnect it.
(New Scene) Peter is in his apartmaent when VENOM suddenly comes and starts beating him up. They fight for a-while but VENOM
fnally wins. He is about to kill him when SPIDEY asks him to help him in his fight to stop CARNAGE and SHOCKER. VENOM agrees but
says when they win he will try to kill him again.
(new scene) VENOM, BLACK-CAT and SPIDEY arrive at DR.CONNERS
lab. They ask him for help because he can disconnect the bomb.
At first CONNERS declines the offer but then SPIDEY takes off his
mask and now that CONNERS knows that peter is SPIDEY, he agrees to help him. But first, CONNERS injects the lizard
serum in his body and thus becomes LIZARD again. LIZARD takes a serum that will make him change back with him just in case
and they leave.
(new scene)
SPIDEY, VENOM, BLACK-CAT and LIZARD arrive at building where
CARNAGE and SHOCKER are at. They Spy on them for a few minuts and see SHOCKER telling CARNAGE that they will detonate
the bomb in a few minuts. SHOCKER leaves and CARNAGE enters
a room where there is alot of machinery. It was the machinery used to build the bomb. There are machines everywhere and thay are all in motion. Some of the machines even look deadly. SPIDEY tells BLACK-CAT and LIZARD to take care of SHOCKER and VENOM and
SPIDEY will defeat CARNAGE. WHEN LIZARD and BLACK-CAT leave.
VENOM and SPIDEY come out of hiding and they start threatnig
eachother.
(new scene) LIZARD and BLACK-CAT find Shocker. SHOCKER says that he will kill them. LIZARD says " You in what army"?.
SHOCKER says "this army" and then all the prisoners that escaped from prison come out with guns and knifs and bats (etc). Then they fight.
(new scene ) Now the most awsomely cool battle in the world breaks out. We see a few seconds of the CARNAGE fighting SPIDEY
AND VENOM then we see the battle betwween SHOCKER, LIZARD
, CAT, AND FUGITIVES. After about 10 minuts of fighting, LIZARD defeats SHOCKER and tries to shut down bomb. He cant shut it down but can weaken the bomb so it will only blow up the building. He tells CAT to take care of rest of goons while he tells VENOM AND spidey to get out of building before bomb explodes ( it will erupt
in 5 minuts.). Meanwhile... CARNAGE has DEFEATED VENOM AND
SPIDEY and has them both by there necks. He tells them that there
gonna die and give other threating comments. Then before he
kills them... LIZARD comes in and attacks CARNAGE but then seconds later carnage stabs LIZARD. VENOM then attacks CARNAGE and SPIDEY runs up to conners. he injects serum to change conners back and conners tells them that the bomb will detonate in seconds.
CAT comes out of nowhere saying all the goons are defeated.
They then defeat carnage and they escape building before it blows up. but then CARNAGE shoots out a webline and it gets CAT'S
leg. He pulls her in and CAT screwams EDDIE HELP ME . Spidey and
VENOM THEN know that CAT is gweN . venoM RESUCES GWEN BY BEATING UP CARNAGE AGAIN. sPIDEY ( WITH cONNERS half dead corpse IN HAND) and cat escape but when venom tried to escape.. carnage would keep bringing him back to fight. The bomb explodes building, killing venom and carnage. Conners says almost dies when cat takes off her mask to show gwen. Conners says goodbye and dies. Then Shocker comes out of nowhere and attacks but Then CAT kills him. Then Peter and MARY JANE get married and they live happly ever after
THE END
Venom: Topher Grace
Carnage: Cillian Murphy
Lizard: Dylan Baker
Hobgoblin: Mark Hamill
Electro: Mark Strong
Kraven:Gerard Butler
Scorpion:Jason Statham
Black Cat: Eliza Dushku
Hydroman:
The villians of Spidey 4 are:
Lizard and Rhino...Trust me, it's true.
Lizard, Rhino, Mysterio, and or Carnage
No lie
and they could give him other love interests like The Black Cat... or do a crossover with The X-Men or the Fantastic Four...
spiderman will have to join him or die
Read my plot people!!!!!!!!!!!!
part 1 of plot is: 44 comments up
Part two of plot is : 13 comments up\
please read my plot i have a broken arm people!!! do you
know how long it took to type!!!!!
Jim Carrey for Carnage
They should say something like MJ is filming a movie somewhere in Europe, and only comes back at the end when Peter proposes to her and get married.
You know they should show a scene at the airport that shows MJ telling Peter bye that shes going to Europe to film a movie, and then comes back at the end and Peter proposes to her and they get married.
Thanks for saying you like my plot
the reaseon i put maryjane at the end is cause I only did wantto right right about the action scenes and not sbout the
drama between maryjane and peter.
so yes... Mary jane is in the movie more then just the end but
i just was to lazy to type about it
but what if carnage and venom are fighting spidey knocked out the black cat or who ever is with him and at the beginning of the story they gie a hnt of another peice of symniobyte that forms toxin who
comes in and helps spidey fight carnage and venom could possibley be to much symniobyte idk what do u guys think
NOW THAT WOULD BE THE BATTLE OF SPIDEY'S LIFE FOR SURE!!!!
BUT I STILL WISH THAT VENOM WOULD COME BACK, YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE COOL?
TOXIN, OR HYBRID, OR CARNAGE, OR SPIDER-CARNAGE, OR ANTI VENOM.
SPIDER-MAN 4 SHOULD HAVE CARNAGE!!!!!
I'M SUPER CEREAL!!!
NOW THAT WOULD BE THE BATTLE OF SPIDEY'S LIFE FOR SURE!!!!
BUT I STILL WISH THAT VENOM WOULD COME BACK, YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE COOL?
TOXIN, OR HYBRID, OR CARNAGE, OR SPIDER-CARNAGE, OR ANTI VENOM.
SPIDER-MAN 4 SHOULD HAVE CARNAGE!!!!!
I'M SUPER CEREAL!!!!
1)Spiderman born- Doc Ock born-Peter dating gwen Stacey- madness occurs(etc)-Spiderman rips Docs Arms off
2)Peter still with gwen-Spiderman's ego grows-JJJ rejects Mac Gargan as SM detective- Parelized Doc Ock finds him, makes scorpion- ego crazy spiderman near kills Doc Ock- scorpin flees- scorpion/spiderman fight
3)Whole norman osborn sub-plot has been going on throughout other movies-green goblin born-gwen stacey killed- yada yada yada-spiderman/green goblin fight in Osborn Chemical warehouse
What do you think?
And GREAT lead-in to Spiderman 5 with the Carnage and Lizard crossing paths in Spiderman 4 in a classicly comic-like crossover. Hot!!!
I gotta go with Junior's storyline for Spiderman 4 as the best overall....
As for everyone else that says no Carnage or Venom in Spiderman 4... kudos to you too. It's been done already. Marvel had their chance to create a SM movie with Spidey's greatest enemy, Venom, but f*d up the character. Venom was in the last 20 minutes of the movie.... literally!!!!! Why bring that character back the VERY NEXT SEQUEL (or even a villain like him)? Give it a break. If Marvel wants to redeem theirselves, wait for SM5(?) to bring Venom or Carnage into the picture.
The next story should not feature any villians that was already featured. No return of Doc Ock! No return of Goblin! No return of Venom!!! Not yet for the most part...
Chistian R & MarvelFanatic: You are absolutely right. They should wait till the 5th installment to probably bring a villain back. It would make the series dull if we see an old villian within the first three sequels..... (Superman and Lex Luthor flashback, anyone????)
Batman is a great example!!! Yea, he is fighting the Joker again, but its been 19 years since Michael Keaton donned the suit as the first Batman (yes, 1989 folks) to fight the Clown Prince. Since then, Batman has fought Penguin, Catwoman, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Bane, Riddler, Two-Face, Scarecrow and Ra's Al Ghul before they "reloaded" the series and brought the Joker back.
I'm not saying lets wait 2 decades before we see Goblin, Venom or Doc Ock again, but let spiderman face a number of different villains (and meet other heroes) in between for his story and experience to grow.
i heard 4/5 are being filmed to gather so if they do that have cassey escape from prison and he becomes carinage
for 5 have carriange kill the king pin and have carrinage as the main villian and have doctor conners trying to control himself become the lizard and find a cure but have him become the lizard again.
the thing about the spiderman movies off the kill the villians off or have them make peace with spiderman like sandman. but in the new batman movies they do that only the Raz died at the end scarecrow is the dark knight and health ledger was suppose to be in the batman 3 ( what ever they call it) but he passedway R.I.P ledger . anyways thats for 4 and 5 the do not need to kill off any villians because then you run out of villians because sony wants to make 6 movies.
marvel fanatic about the comment you said about my story and i
DO AGREE IT NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT OUT
Also the movie American mcgees Alice is coming in summer
in 2009 im so exited!!!
by Jim Carrey and the fourth movie should be rated a PG in the UK for moderate fantasy violence mild horror and language
i also think that carnage might join in but the idea is hard to think about and how will it come in the plot
nomination for the role should be Criss Angel
hes a freak hes crazy and hed be awesome for the role
classified 12A in the UK for strong fantasy violence moderate horror
and two uses of strong language
the sixth Spider-Man movie should be classified PG in the UK for moderate fantasy violence mild horror and language
My suggestion is simple, i don't want to see what they did in Spiderman 3 with the villains, just stay with one villain and make him more difficult to defeat, and i don't mean physical strength but mental power. And for that reason i see the Lizard as the best villain for SM4 and they should end it with the "birth" of Carnage.
it took me about 2 and a half hours, but i would first off like to say, people, what is your problem with kyle.? he has practically ran this forum with his ideas, i would like to see more.
any comments? please feel free.. i am waiting
P.S: Where the hell are you kyle???
four-hundred-and-thirty-seven-thousand-three-hundred-and-fourteen comments on this forum..
"I don’t know if doppleganger would work, just cause you can’t really have character development on something that’s mindless."
Right, because as we all know, that didn't work so well for the Dark Knight?
Doppelganger sounds good
If she has a cat, she might get scratched/bitten by her cat, Turning her into the black cat.
He's probably the strongest character their is.
And WTF what are they gonna do with Harry dead?
Jim Carrey - Cletus Kasady/Carnage
Dylan Baker - Curt Connors/Lizard
Mark Hamill - Jason Macendale/Hobgoblin
Topher Grace - Eddie Brock Sr./Anti-Venom
Brendan Fraser - Sergei Kravinoff/Kraven the Hunter
carnage
lizard
hobgoblin
spidey 5
electro
black cat
carnage
anti-venom(not brock
spidey 6
sinister six
lizard
hobgoblin
manwolf
rhino scorpion carnage kraven anti-venom
opening montage
peter talking in the beging as usual
we go to mexico where a man is feeding wolves when a greeen eyed one bites him multiple times. he turns into a hairy beast. he runs off towards the capital.
peter is in doc conners class listening to the sciencey speach. after class connoers goes to his lab and injects someting in his right shoulder. a lizard like arm appears. think it was side effects he left it alone.
Spiderman 5 will definately have Chameleon, man-wolf, kraven, scorpion, shocker and rhino.
chamelon, man wolf and kraven will work together whilst shocker and rhino work together and scorpion works alone until a final battle when the combine there powers.
I saw this idea from stan lee who wants to see a team of villans, and I agree with Bulls_eye... how the hell are you gonna create the sinister six.
they want Russle crowe to play Kraven and it seems obvious they would put man-wolf in the films because of the end 2nd film.
I also found out that if there is to be a 6th film Mysterio, electro and hobgoblin along with 3 others... I hope its Vulture, jackal and hydro-man.
because rami wanted him to be in spiderman 3 with
wings protruding from his back intead of under his arms.
I also think no other syboites except venom and carnage should be involved in the film.
oh and a message to cool person and my_name_alex_I_dont _joke
you cant say we're geeks when your acually lookin at this page,
So shut the hell up PRICKS!
jay: Neither. But if it has to be one of those two, then Chris Angel.
He's so underused. No one eve uses him, but he's none as
one of Spider-man's greatest enimies. Anyway, I think I said
this before, but I'll say it again. Lizard sucks! Venom and
Carnage rocks. Oh and here's some villains that I think should
be in 4: Carnage, Venom, Jackal, Black cat, Kingpin, hobgoblin,
Scorpian, and mysterio. Here's who suck: Defineately Lizard,
rihno, hydro man, and kraven. Oh, and lastly, dock ock can
return. He didn't die.
Venom and Carnage. They all died, but Spiderman finds out
that someone cloned him and Gwen. Here's my verson of sm5:
Spiderman and Maryjane still won't get back together. Dock ock comes back to lead a new sinister six. It includes, him,
mysterio, Kaine who was peter's clone, scorpian, Vulture, and
Electro. Spiderman finds the Black cat stealing jewly. He stops
her, and they have a fight, and she escapes. Later, the sinister
six attack Spidey. He put up a good fight, but had to flee. When
the six rob a musiem, Spidey comes to stop them. However, the
Black cat also comes to rob the musiem. The sinister six attack her. She and Spider-man team up and fight the six. They all
leave. The black cat then decides to become a hero. Alone,
spiderman comes to find the six, but only found kaine they
talked and spidey realises that he's talking to his clone. Kaine
left. In another fight with all the caracters, kaine turns on the
six and joins the hero's. They end up defeating everyone,
exept dock ock. They all find ock and attack. Kaine ends up
killing ock. Black cat and spiderman break up. Kaine the kills
himself in guilt of taking a life.
Here's an idea (I am not very familiar with the comic, so please excuse the canonical-contradictions this will no-doubt make): The down-and-out former scientist-turned-criminal who later becomes Carnage makes his own crude Spidey costume. He then uses the suit as a disguise to keep people thinking he's Spidey so he can more easily commit crimes. This might even lead to a tense time for Spidey, as the public starts to think he really is a criminal (this idea is spun of the cartoon when Mysterio does the same with a Spidey illusion, by the way).
Elsewhere, Dr. Conners continues his tests on the symbiote and lets it bond with a small lizard. He notices that the symbiote not only gives the reptile the ability to heal wounds and regrow limbs (as demonstrated in the finale of Spider-Man 3, when Harry slashes Venom's arms with batblades and they instantly heal), but lets it do so instantaneously. He asks Peter Parker to help him with his research and, after much reluctance, Peter agrees so that he can save him should anything go wrong. One night, Dr. Conners decides to test it on himself. Peter finds out and hurries to stop him, but is too late. Conners takes a small sample of the symbiote with the reptilian DNA in it and injects himself. It regrows his arm, but also turns him into the Lizard.
This makes for a much more believable Lizard origin, as the symbiote can mutate its host (injecting yourself with reptilian blood on its own isn't going to turn you into a reptile). However, since the symbiote had lizard DNA still inside it, and the symbiote is literally in his blood stream. His immune system kills the injected portion of the symbiote AFTER he transforms, so the mutation doesn't get works and often reverts Conners between human and Lizard form almost randomly.
Meanwhile, the remaining symbiote sample is accidentally let loose in the Lizard's subsequent battle with Spider-Man and the hero spends many days trying to recapture it before something bad happens.
The Spidey-impersonator is eventually arrested by Spidey and put in prison. Later, having escaped from prison and ticked off at Spidey, he plots revenge on Spider-Man, New York, and all of humanity, which he believes is totally chaotic and pointless. Donning his suit once more, he prepares to begin his quest when the symbiote attacks and bonds with him, transforming him into Carnage.
This leaves Spidey dealing with both Lizard and Carnage, and I'll let Sam Raimi and the rest of the movie team decide how to play that out. One possible idea is that, since Carnage is literally meant to be ONE with the symbiote (as in the comics) and not just bonded with it, he is for all practical means invincible (remember that Spidey couldn't defeat venom until he removed Eddie Brock from the suit). Dr. Conners knows how to defeat him, but as the Lizard, he burned all his research notes. This leaves the tense idea of Spidey having to save Conners so he can help him defeat Carnage.
Well, that's my idea. If anyone has feedback (or knows the movie peoples' emails so I can send it to them) please, give it to me.
favorite villain or one on each of your two favorite villains. You
may also subtract two points from your least favorite villain or
subtract one each from your two least favorite. No double-voting.
Please respond to the most recent voter. Each villain starts with
ten points. If you want to add any villains to my list, go ahead. Here's how I'll start it:
Carnage-11
Venom-11
Jackal-10
Black cat-10
Scorpian-10
Lizard-9
Kraven-9
Black cat-10
Hobgoblin-10
Kingpin-10
Mysterio-10
Vulture-10
Electro-10
Rihno-10
Hydroman-10
Shocker-10
Ps: I got this idea from another site.
manwolf
lizard
hobgoblin
richard fisk
ned leeds
farley stillwell
a story line should start out close to the end of spiderman 4 leading to what spiderman 5 will be about mostly.
spiderman 5 villains
carnage
scorpion
the story of scorpion (mac gargan) starts close to the end of spiderman 4. it would be awesome if they showed the symbiote appearing after the end credits are over with and binds with cletus kassidy, turning him into carnage
lizard-becomes spidermans partner after finding out that spiderman is parker
spiderman 6 villain- hydroman
an unexpected back story begins about mj's love life that peter did not know about when they were in high school.the fact that mj dated morris bench before she went out with flash thompson. because of morris bench's bad attitude, it got him expelled from school. as soon as morris turned 18, his parents forced him to join the coast guards. on a rescue mission, morris falls overboard. as soon as morris tries to reach the ship, a huge whirlpool occurs from an underwater experiment and pulls morris under water. water got in his lungs,but not enough to kill him,but consisted his whole body of water, giving him the ability to control water.
matt damon or paul walker- hydroman
criss angel or ashton kutcher-carnage
steve carrell-hobgoblin
sarah michelle gellar-scream
kevin spacey- dr farley stillwell
ryan phillippe-scorpion
matt le blanc-ned leeds
daniel gillies- manwolf
chris evans- richard fisk
whoever reads this first, who do you think should play tombstone,demo-goblin,boomerang,and mysterio?
enough. You copy my list then add up to two points to your
favorite villain or one on your two favorite villains. Same goes
with subtracting. If you have any questions, just ask. I go to
this site every day. Oh and tjones. You were right. I can't compare
someone to come back over others who are dead. But I still think
Dock ock can come back. Not that he should, but there's a chance.
lizard
scorpion
they are leaving the symbiote out of spiderman 4. i know it sucks because i wanna see carnage too,but on the latest news, raimi said that the symbiote is too much of a risk for spiderman 4.in the news, he said that sandman is definitely coming back for spiderman 4 to team up with spiderman. seriously we need the toughest villains spiderman ever had. here they are.
carnage
hobgoblin
lizard
scorpion
hydroman
manwolf
shocker
electro
mysterio
richard fisk, since kingpin is not allowed to be in any spiderman movie
and dr farley stillwell: not really a villain
now these are all the villains who will be in all the future spiderman movies, but that's all who will be in the future movies. all the other villains who i didn't mention will not be in any future spiderman movie. so forget your crappie, chameleon,ugly as hell vulture, and your stupid idiotic sinister six crap.none of them will work.peter glass kiss my a**, apparently you don't know crap about actors because everybody you listed as the villains are either too old or too funny to play any of the villains.matthew wu, you can definitely shut the fu** up, because everybody else here knows that doc ock is dead and he has no chance, so the sinister six is definitely out of the picture.
lizard- curt connors
hobgoblin-takes richard fisk's place as the new crime lord
ned leeds-gets killed for mistaken identity as the hobgoblin
richard fisk-crime lord
for spiderman 5
scorpion
after end credits are over,lets show how carnage is created
for spiderman 6
carnage
scream
maybe they could put in a villain that was never used from another modern marvel comic or dc comic. maybe a villain they used in the batman cartoons,but not one they used in all the movies. which reminds me. not sure if all of you know this, but i saw that the dark knight made the second highest grossing movie on the list.titanic is still the number one highest grossing movie ever.
In Spiderman 4, i would leave the symbiote out until the end credits are over for an unexpected back story that will lead to spiderman 5.So i would make spiderman 4 be only about connors turning into lizard. spiderman defeats lizard with help from sandman.oh damn! wait a minute. now i'm thinking about hydroman.ok, let's say that morris bench's story happens in spiderman 4. of course, he dated mj while they were in high school before she dated flash thompson.bad tempered morris got expelled from school.he went on to the military,has his accident,and turns into hydroman. hydroman has to face sandman alone and spiderman has to face lizard alone.after the end credits are over in spiderman 4, it shows that cletus kassidy is hiding in a dark hole created by lizard.he's sitting down and trembling like crazy.unaware that the symbiote is nearby,it gets on his shoe,then all of a sudden covers his whole body. while he feels it crawling on his body, he screams. turns into carnage,and does the evil carnage scream.that's the end of spiderman 4,so carnage can be in part 5. the reason i say hydroman in part 4 is because of sandman. sandman doesn't exactly face hydroman alone,but both sandman and spiderman team up to destroy both lizard and hydroman. i'd say that connors serum makes him too violent to live for another movie,so i would have him killed,even though he does help spiderman in the cartoons.
at the beginning mary jane runs into her old boyfriend morris bench.he is already hydroman.he kidnaps her and she asks him how he got this way. he tells the story about how he turned into water,which is shown for the movie.spiderman saves her from hydroman and asks mj who that guy was. an unexpected back story is told by mj,which flashes back to when they were in high school. after this scene is over,it goes to dr. curt connors story. he creates a serum to grow his arm back and turns into lizard.the movie is all about lizard and hydroman. During the end credits of spiderman4,shows the symbiote contained in a jar.the reptilian dna that connors injected into the symbiote makes it grow very strong and angry. it escapes from the jar and finds cletus kassidy and turns him into carnage.this could work
spiderman 4
connors-lizard teams up with spiderman close to the end
cletus kassady-carnage
mac gargan-scorpion- later becomes the new venom
dr. farley stillwell- other than creating scorpion, he creates more villains to try to defeat spiderman
spiderman 5
hobgoblin- finds the osbourne lair and turns himself into hobgoblin
ned leeds-marries betty brant and is later framed by hobgoblin
richard fisk- the crimelord/ kingpin was already in daredevil
dr.farley stillwell- could create a new villain. don't know yet
after becoming the hobgoblin, he tries to find richard fisk so he can become the new crimelord
not a major villain. This was the problem with sandman two. They should use all the major villains first. In the 1980s-90s batman series, they used the villains from order of popularity. The Lizard isn't a really important villain and niether is the sandman.
Carnage, the Hobgoblin, kingpin, Jackal, and Black Cat are all major villains. Not Lizard.
shocker,well do you want me to list all of them?the ones who wouldn't be a risk, would be lizard,carnage,scorpion,manwolf,and hobgoblin.Raimi will finally stop making spiderman movies until after these villains are in them.i won't be happy about the thought of raimi not making more movies afterwards.
Peter and MJ break up so Peter dates Gwen. A mysterious man
goes into Norman's lair and takes his Goblin Equiptment. He changes it and becomes the Hobgoblin. It then shows when Peter was tearing off the symboite, it spawned a red symbiote. The Hobgoblin robs a bank, so Spidey stops him and they have a
fight. Hobgoblin escapes with the money then stalks Spidey to
find out who he is. He can't. Meanwhile, Cletus Cassidy hides in
the church from the police and the red symboite comes on him
and he becomes Carnage. Carnage kills all the police so Spidey comes to save the day and fights Carnage. Spidey is losing, so
he runs away. He then tells Gwen who he really is. Carnage then fights the Hobgoblin and kidnapps him. Hobgoblin escapes then
finds Gwen. He makes her tell him who Spiderman is and then
kidnapps her anyway. Spiderman thinks that Carnage did it and
attacks him, but realises that the Hobgoblin did it and tracks
him down. Carnage follows him, but Spidey doesn't know. Spidey
finds the Hobgoblin and in a three-way battle, Carnage kills
Gwen. In rage, Spidey rips the symbiote off Casity accidently
killing him. The symbiote goes onto Spidey, so he fights
Hobgoblin and defeats him. He then goes to the church to get the
symboite off.
Tell me what you think
cletus kassidy starts off in a convienent store.he makes the clerk open the safe.an off duty officer is inside at the time acting like a helpless victim.he pulls out his gun and shoots at cletus one time,but misses. then he and cletus get into a gun fight.the officer is ducked down behind a thin shelf,and cletus shoots his last round through the shelf and kills the officer. before the rest of the police comes, cletus runs out. apparently the symbiote connors had escaped and is running free on the streets. it spots cletus running,so it catches up to cletus without him knowing and gets onto him,turning him into carnage.
spiderman 4
manwolf- john jameson
venom-eddie brock
blade-played by wesley snipes and teams up with spiderman or how about this one
for spiderman 4, venom is terrorizing the city.superman finds out about it and runs into spiderman instead,thinking that he's destroying the city,so they battle off against each other. of course superman wins the fight,but spiderman doesn't die.later superman finds out that spiderman really wasn't the one destroying the city and become partners
the story. What I don't like is the fact that Blade and man-wolf
were in it. There was already a blade movie and man-wolf
sucks. Oh, and Jessebrosco, your Carnage Story is better, but
his orgin doesn't matter that much
Also, some facts: Sam Raimi has stated that Sandman DEFINITELY will return in Spider-Man 4, and the scope of the film will be limited to two villains. So, unless something changes, you guys can forget your grandiose, chaotic, and confusing ideas of having four or five villains. And I HIGHLY doubt they'll do ANOTHER goblin (nor do I want them to). Besides, New Goblin was meant to be an amalgamation of the hobgoblin, green goblin, and original ideas. The team has also expressed interest in Kraven the Hunter (a character which, I imagine, would have a somewhat changed and much darker origin than the comic in order to be taken more seriously). They also showed interest in the Sinister Six, which I think is a completely asinine idea. It's too comical,and would require ANOTHER goblin, and Doc Ock, who undoubtedly died, to come back to life. PLUS, Doc Ock became a good guy in the end, so it would be stupid for him to just change his mind. But that's all i know for FACT, so far. Hope it helps!
The story should be split evenly between the two, with Spidey seeing defeat midway through due to his broken arm, breaking down the film nicely somewhere around the middle.
Finish with the lizard in a coma, but coming out of it towards the end.
I would also really like to see Carnage make a brief appearance in this film, but not do battle with Spidey. Leave it on a cliffhanger with him on the loose, or with footage of how he comes to be, leaving us really wanting more in the next film.
Michael Clark Duncan?
know that's to much of a generalazation, but It happens a lot. Super-man 4:Quest for Peace, Batman and Robin, Jaws 4:The revenge. I would hate for Spider-man 4 to end up like that. Oh
and Kraven and Lizard is a horrible idea. Two of the worst villains
do not belong in Spider-man 4. I know I say that the Lizard shouldn't be in Spider-man 4 in almost every comment I post,
but just because Dr. Connors appered in the Spider-man movies
is no excuse to make him a villain. Does anyone agree.
Carnage
Rhino
Doc Ock
Shocker
Scorpion
Venom
Tombstone
Sandman
Hydroman
Gladiator
Owl
Kingpin
Bulseye
Porcupine
Vulture
Kraven the Hunter
Morbius
Hobgoblin
Green Goblin
scorpion- mac gargan
lizard-connors
i wouldn't put any other villains in part 4. i would want to see the symbiote escaping during the end credits and get on cletus kassidy,so carnage can be the only villain in part 5.
Any responses to this?
Peter Parker is a 16 year old straight A student who has no socail life. After a feild trip with his college course to the colleges lab (owned and funded bu Osborne) he gets bit by a radioactive spider. As his powers kick, he attempts wrestling and begins to make it big. After, his uncle get killed he leaves the ring and begins to fight crime. Through a violent accident, he ends up saving Gwen Stacy from an accident at the schools lab and they began to date. Osborn at the same time test the syrem on himself and goes crazy. Osborn terrorizers New York and then by accident recognizes Peter Parker's voice as Spiderman and kidnaps Gwen Stacy. Holding Gwen Stacy over the bridge, he drops her. SPiderman attempts to catch her with his web but it snaps her back. In a fury SPiderman nearly kills Green Goblin but at the very last minute hears the glider come up behind him and jumps on top of it making it drop enough to go into Normons chest. Peter Parker is at the end shown sitting next to Gwen's grave crying.
This would make him slightly darker and more real.
Then movie two:
A slighty darker Spiderman is now roaming the streets. Quentin Beck is a specail effects master who is making another movie. He starts to film a large chase scene whitch i slightly deranged spiderman mistakes for the real thing. He destroys everything and ruins the movie. This ruins Becks career and he vows revenge on Spiderman for what he has done to him. Quentin (using his expereince with special effects) creates a fake amusement park enwhich all who enter die on the outskirts of town. He kidnaps many people and forces them to try and escape. Finally Spiderman goes after Quentin and has to fight his way through the park. Unfortuneatly, half way through his mask gets ripped off and Quentin uses this new info to drive Spiderman over the edge. Peter begans to be haunted by Gwen Stacy. Finally Spiderman finds his way to Beck and holds him out the 8th floor window. He drops him but realizes he still cant kill and jumps to save him. He barely catches him but lands hard on his back. Quentin then runs off into the distance. It ends showing SPiderman sitting on the top of a building approached by Nick Fury asking him if he would be interested in the Avengers
He wins but doesn't. Not like the others. Darker and more real.
And Movie 3
Sheild has given Spiderman an expiremental new suit (symboite) which will raise his strength and endurance and is sent back to New York to test it. Meanwhile, Quentin is reaking havoc in New York with his new carnival of evil. (This would include Rhino, Scorpion, Vulture, and Kraven the Hunter.) They began to rade the town. Spiderman comes down and begins to try and defeat them. He gets horriably defeated but is able to escape through the sewers. Meanwhile Aunt May is kidnapped by the Carnival of Evil and Spiderman goes after her. He is able to defeat all of them but Quentin. Kraven shoots Quentin and gives Spiderman his Aunt back saying that it was a dishonorable way to do battle and then leaves saying he is going back to russia. Spiderman drops the others off at the police except Quentin who he drops in the river as he heads to the police. At the end sheild decides the test is a failure and lets Peter keep the suit.
the beginning should start off with
the birth of manwolf.Then connors
turns into lizard.manwolf finds out
spiderman's true identity and kidnaps
mj to draw spiderman out.spiderman
comes with sandman.together they
destroy manwolf.as the lizard,connors
cannot control himself.the symbiote
makes him too violent and needs to
be destroyed. during the end credits
of spiderman 4,shows connors lab is destroyed
and the rest of the symbiote finds
cletus kassidy hiding from the police
and turns him into carnage.
Spiderman 5
carnage and scorpion or just carnage
i feel 100% confident that all of this will
happen
in spiderman 4.
manwolf is what it will be mostly about.
he finds out spiderman's true identity
and kidnaps mj to draw him out.manwolf is
too strong for spiderman to handle so
he gets sandman to help him. at the end of
the movie shows connors turning into lizard.he
bumps into the table that the symbiote is
contained on and it escapes and finds
cletus kassidy and turns him into carnage.
This way, lizard and carnage team up
in spiderman 5. they should make it look
as if it were spiderman's and sandman's
greatest challenges ever.
john jameson and connors first appeared in
spiderman 2.I'll bet a million dollars that they
team up against spiderman and sandman in
part 4.if you paid attention to the past movies,
then you would know that they lead the symbiote
for part 3.So there is your lead for spiderman 4 too.
I'll bet that Raimi wants to get everybody confused
making everybody think that carnage will be in
part 4,but that's a load of sh**,because it's too
obvious. I feel pretty sure about this. i guess
we'll all just have to wait for the previews
to finally start. oh and by the way, close
to the end of 2009 will be the release date
according to all the articles i read about
spiderman 4
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_dis...
It says that Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire will return as director and star. It also says that Kirsten Dunst is expected to return.
when connors transforms into lizard. he causes damage to his lab while transforming.without knowing each other's identity, spiderman and lizard fight until almost
the very end. they finally find out each other's identities
and connors creates a serum to help cure may parker.
after may parker recovers, peter is trying to help lizard
create a serum to turn him back into a human being once again as a token of appreciation. at the very end, right before the end credits start, i would show the carnage symbiote escaping from connors lab and finds cletus kassidy running from the police during a chase, jumps onto him, and turns him into carnage. i would
have carnage climb a building at the beginning of part
5 to actually escape from the police.
her and gets expelled from school for an unexpected backstory.he is already hydroman when he first encounters mj, kidnaps her, and takes her to a private place to talk. he tells her how he got that way,which will be shown in the movie
the Avengers Fing Fang Foom
Villians
Lizard 100% Raimi said he only comes back if lizard will be there
Carnage 50%
Kraven 80% i saw a movie poster on images
Hobgoblin 40%
Black cat 40%
Carnage
Venom
Jackal
Hobgoblin
Black Cat
Kingpin
Mysterio
Vulture
Scorpian
Electro
Shocker
Rhino
Hydroman
Kraven
Lizard
Morbias
Tell me what you think
it is an intriguing one though, and should finally give us a decent fightscene for the green meanie. and as long as abomination (tim roth, cmon. i mean seriously.) isnt seen again ill be happy. same goes for liv tyler because, in all seriousness, my dog could do better.
i say get wesley snipes back onside and pit the worlds undead against spidey. anyone else?
i agree with you about kingpin though, it mightve been good to build some kind of insidious 6 storyline around him.
one hollywood producer is going to come up and steal all of your ideas and make a classic movie combining all of your ideas and you guys will get no credit
like they have been doing for the past few years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1000000000000%
mark my words
kirsten dunst - mj watson
dylan baker - Dr. curt connors/lizard
daniel gillies - john jameson/ turns into manwolf at the end of movie
unknown name( possibly ashton kutcher) - carnage
rosemary harris - may parker
mageina tovah - ursula
cliff robertson - ben parker
j.k simmons - jj jameson
bill nunn - robbie
ted raimi - hoffman
elya baskin - mr. ditkovitch
elizabeth banks - betty brant
bruce campbell - restaurant host from sm3 a.k.a snooty usher from sm2
breckin meyer
criss angel
eric stoltz
timothy olyphant
jon heder
tim roth
breckin meyer and jon heder are the only two actors who never played a bad guy in any of their movies. criss angel,eric stoltz,timothy olyphant,and tim roth all played bad guys before. i couldn't decide between tim roth and timothy olyphant to play carnage. tim roth fits the best description for carnage and timothy olyphant is crazy enough to play carnage
like kick ass
yeah that would be sweet right i mean electro cool special effects & lizard cool action
SHOCKER n0. 1
*sorry i took three coments but i cudn't fit it all in !!!
no hard feelings i don't wish to argue with any1.
i just had another idea. how bout scorpion and electro in the new movie but not on the same side to make the fight scence more interesting ??
i heard rumours that morbius will be in a film has any one else heard that 2 ????
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/30/sony-developi...
they do bump heads a lot, but eventually Eddie dies and the scorpion becomes the new "Venom."
I think they did an okay job on the Hob Goblin, but Sandman wasn't that great either. I think spidey 4 is a very over rated movie.
However for the sequel, which I hope is alot better, they have already comfirmed The lizard will be in the film. Carnage is a very high possibility as well. Alot higher than 46%. Although the director did mention he did like morbius in the comic series, his odds of being in the movie are very high too, but I don't see how they could make it work with The Lizard involved.
just talk about spiderman
the fresh start has begun :)
what do you think m8 ?
1. Doctor Octopus
2. Venom
3. Carnage
4. The Green Goblin
5. Shocker
6. Scorpion
7. Electro
8. Sandman
9. Mysterio
10. Kraven
11. Rhino
12. Morbious
13. The Beetle
let me know some of your favourites guys !
who would you say is better out of Hydro man and Sandman ?? i personally prefer sandman.
SALMON OUT!
Alex
ps you can stop geting people to come on here recking the site like alex fairclouhg and calven roberts because its just sad in fact i bet they are also you pretending to be other people. i think that you are making up lots of names and ppl and comin on here faking comments as others to give urself support u make me sick u r sad. i cant believe how childish u act it is unbelieveable on here. so keep comin back you make us laugh LOL i bet ur not even from uk ur just some american mesing round LOL.
salmon out? how gay i mean who do you think you are some sort of commando or something you complete loser. i bet you are homeless too LOL.
spiderman starts mutating into the manspider,and connors turns into the lizard.spiderman has to try to find connors before he gets worse.he finds connors, but he is already the lizard,and they battle against each other a few times. Kraven is hired to track down the lizard,but finds spiderman instead so he needs help. they call in a reinforcement ( the punisher) to help kraven. together, they track down lizard and spiderman and were only able to cure spiderman with a serum. the serum is injected into the lizard,but it doesn't work on him.
imagine the special fx
And Hydro-Man is a terrible idea.
or they could go with Juggernaut...i kno hes an xmen villain but still SM did fight him...but of course they could jus use rhino as a big brute....
morbius would b pretty cool if they wanna put the black cat in it...since him and felica hardy was togetha b4 her and spidey....
...vulture = gay....
kraven...i hate him...but they could make sum good angles with that....but also....gay
elctro....kinda kewl...gay costume
same with mysterio and chameleon....both could have kewl parts in the movie but over all kinda lame...
hobgoblin would b kewl...i meen they could go with the rose (kingpins son) and ned leeds (hobgoblin 2) story line...
shocker..i always secretly liked but henchmen villain only...
hydoman...bad ass FX...but story line wouldnt b to great.....
sandman if they brought bak would b kewl
and idc wat any1 says venom and carnage r amazing....should bring venom bak..but idk bout carnage..it'd b kewl..but to many symbiotes at 1 time could b frustrating..
doc ock i nvr rly liked.....lame i think persoannlly but i doubt he will b back..unless they do do a sin. 6 thing..
kingpin could work.....i wouldnt mind seein a super hero team up...daredevil spidey....
or human torch/spidey
or wolverine and spidey///....all would b kewl
scorpion could b kewl...but not as a main character...
they coulda killed gwen stacy off like they wer spose to and go with a jackal storyline....that way the could bring in Scarlett spider(ben riely) and kaine (another clone of peter parker)(also bad ass)
lizard would b a good character....good 4 storyline
could put puma in ther to hunt spidey...but idk..pretty much kraven but wit powers
tombstone would also be pretty bad ass...not as a main but a henchie he'd b gr8
lol i always liked demo goblin but thatd fuck up the story line
shriek could b an intresting story line if u bring her carnage carrion and the monster clone alien thing of spidey...idk wtf it was but its bad ass
absorbing man would be pretty awesome.....but again not a main event guy
oh and doppleganger is the name of the moster spiderman thing
did any1 else hate both of the green goblin outfits???
i did..they wer horrible...comic book was so creepy and cool...they betta not fuck up hobgoblin if they put him in 1
they could bring out the spider slayers
hmmm wel thats all at the moment
or they could go with Juggernaut...i kno hes an xmen villain but still SM did fight him...but of course they could jus use rhino as a big brute....
morbius would b pretty cool if they wanna put the black cat in it...since him and felica hardy was togetha b4 her and spidey....
...vulture = gay....
kraven...i hate him...but they could make sum good angles with that....but also....gay
elctro....kinda kewl...gay costume
same with mysterio and chameleon....both could have kewl parts in the movie but over all kinda lame...
hobgoblin would b kewl...i meen they could go with the rose (kingpins son) and ned leeds (hobgoblin 2) story line...
shocker..i always secretly liked but henchmen villain only...
hydoman...bad ass FX...but story line wouldnt b to great.....
sandman if they brought bak would b kewl
and idc wat any1 says venom and carnage r amazing....should bring venom bak..but idk bout carnage..it'd b kewl..but to many symbiotes at 1 time could b frustrating..
doc ock i nvr rly liked.....lame i think persoannlly but i doubt he will b back..unless they do do a sin. 6 thing..
kingpin could work.....i wouldnt mind seein a super hero team up...daredevil spidey....
or human torch/spidey
or wolverine and spidey///....all would b kewl
scorpion could b kewl...but not as a main character...
they coulda killed gwen stacy off like they wer spose to and go with a jackal storyline....that way the could bring in Scarlett spider(ben riely) and kaine (another clone of peter parker)(also bad ass)
lizard would b a good character....good 4 storyline
could put puma in ther to hunt spidey...but idk..pretty much kraven but wit powers
tombstone would also be pretty bad ass...not as a main but a henchie he'd b gr8
lol i always liked demo goblin but thatd fuck up the story line
shriek could b an intresting story line if u bring her carnage carrion and the monster clone alien thing of spidey...idk wtf it was but its bad ass
absorbing man would be pretty awesome.....but again not a main event guy
oh and doppleganger is the name of the moster spiderman thing
did any1 else hate both of the green goblin outfits???
i did..they wer horrible...comic book was so creepy and cool...they betta not fuck up hobgoblin if they put him in 1
they could bring out the spider slayers
hmmm wel thats all at the moment
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Green Goblin, Venom and Carnage are the best villians. Sandman sucked.
Plus spiderman is perve gave up his beautiful wife with the devil for his 90 year plus Aunt May: he is sick.
DarkKnight was good because movies need to go with the mood of society and how things are going in the world. People relate and get set into movies more when it mirrors the tone of whats going on.
Hobgoblin would be good if they made him that demonic thing that he became. A right down totally evil thing bent on destruction and corruption. As long as they go with only 1 villain and make it dark and intense with a wicked plot the movie would be great again. More than 1 villain takes away from plot time and the building of a truly bad ass enemy. Look at transformers.....Megatrons boss was a moron Idea! They never built him up, he did nothing evil in the movie. Just saying "Oh, He's CRAZY evil" does not make the audience get chills...they gotta show how evil he is.
Electro, hydro-man, scorpion, vulture, even the lizard are all retarded ideas....The majority can't do city wide destruction and mayhem and the lizard is a mindless...well, lizard! Who wants Spider-man meets the crocodile hunter...lame. Might as well give him an Aussie accent! I'd rather watch Blue planet than that. Carnage could be good but he's gotta toss the whole city into chaos. brutal destruction and just pure evil is what would make this movie shine. Everything in Hollywood has been done to death. Time to push it. Hobgoblins "demonic" taint- everyone loves a good exorcist type of chill or the carnage's just a mental patient given superpowers thrill ride.
Plot+actors+intensity+grit= great movie
Spider-man is fighting a named super villain in the beginning. You get to see that villain, he's beaten and as a result a chain reaction happens that springs about the true enemy of the movie.
Take Carnage for example.
So Spider-man is fighting the Rhino, Dumb named villain that everyone knows...could never be a plot in himself but immerses you in the marvel world none the less. The rhino is a brute and a lot of things get destroyed in the process, such as the state mental institution where Cletus escapes from the damage caused from the rhino and spider man going at it.
Now lets say a bit of the venom suit lived. It may have been following Spider-man around trying to re-bond or just out for vengeance when it senses this mad man running free from his cell....Using this psycho as a tool to pay spiderman back it in itself does not fully know the mental depravity its bonded with and he in turn warps the alien suit. Carnage is born...sensless killing and destruction is its only desire.
If they so choose, spiderman needs the help from venom to get its wayward offshoot back in line. Now, you can have venom working with spiderman to find and stop Carnage. You have no need to really focus on Venom just yet minus the scenes with him fighting with Spider man or doing whatever he does alone. Spider-man has been built up as a character already so you could show a bit more venom searching for Carnage instead of Spider-man. The rest of the movie could be with Carnage's madness and brutality.
At the end Carnage is beaten, venom vows to take spiderman out now that he's back in the game. there is another movie with someone else, maybe a few scenes with venom in it teasing and taunting Spider-man, then boom the movie after that a spiderman vs venom fest. They could salvage the mess they made with number 3 and get a few more Spiderman flicks out of the franchise still as well.
lizard, (cause he's his teacher)
carnage, (cause connors still has a bit of the symbiote)
man-wolf, (cause he was left alone in spidey 2)
& scorpion. (cause J.J. Jameson hates spiderman.)
although, if I were the director my films would be...
spiderman 4: Lizard, carnage and black cat.
spiderman 5: Man-wolf, Chameleon, Kraven, Scorpion, Shocker and Rhino.
(kraven, shocker and rhino works for chameleon. scorpion obviously works for J.J jameson and man-wolf is the lone ranger. Chameleon gets away in end.)
spiderman 6: Mysterio, Electro, Chameleon, hobgoblin, jackyl and Hydro-man.
SAWEET!!!!
Once they have made this film and all the rest of the Marvel films they should all lead into the same plot, which was a comic favourite of mine, Secret Wars!!!
What a film that would be? Pitch it in the old Lord of the Rings format? Base it over 3 films, 3 hrs long, of just kick ass fighting sequences with a cracking story line???
Box office smash baby??