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Roland – Hugh Jackman
Eddie – Edward Norton or Mark Whalberg
Susannah – Jada Pinkett Smith
Jake – Dylan or Cody Sprouse
Callahan – Clint Eastwood
Calvin Towers – Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Aaron Deepneau – Ian Mekellen
Uncle Moses Carver – Morgan Freeman
Susan Delgado – Anna Paquin
And before you scoff at the idea of Mr. Eastwood as the Pere, please remember that Pere is older, but he still kicks butt, and wouldn't it be just the sweetest irony to those DT fans out there to know that Roland IS Eastwood, but to see him in the movie as Callahan? (also, in the hardcovers, the picture of Pere looks a lot like Clint too)
As for Jackman, I commented on another person with this idea earlier, but doesn't anyone else think that if you wrapped him in a serape, let him grow a little stubble and stick a cigar in his mouth, you have a young Eastwood waiting to happen?
Jada - look at her pictures, she's got that rough look that Halle Berry just can't pull off, that is a woman I'd hate to see behind the barrel of a pair of those Sandlewood guns.
Dylan and Cody - Yea they're young and goofy looking =oP but they have that sort of innocence that I picture Jake having.. and they're decent actors, I'd imagine either one of them could get into the gunslinger role with gusto.
Anna Paquin - A blond Anna Paquin is the cutest, sweetest, most innocent looking girl I have really ever seen. It's not hard to picture her as Susan.
Morgan Freeman and Ian Mckellen - Hey, if anyone else doesn't agree then...well, then that's fine...but I think it would be awesome to see either of these come to life ^_^
ANNNNNYWAY, those are my thoughts :)
handsome the right age and a great actor.
Roland : Clint Digi-Wood, Bruce Willis, Josh Holloway (vllt für die junge version), Lance Henriksen, doc house
Walter o'Dim, the ageless stranger The Man in Black : Christopher Walken, John Malkovitch
Eddie Dean : Edward Norton, Gyllenhall, Garry Sinese
Susannah Dean : Jada Pinkett Smith, Thandie Newton, vivica a fox
Steven Deschain : Ray Liotta
Gabrielle Deschain: Catherine McCormack
Susan Delgado : Hayden Panettiere
Donald Callahan : Kiefer Sutherland
Calvin Tower : Dustin Hoffman
Jake: Oliver Davis, Cameron Bright
Nort: Steve Buscemi
the grimson king: Jack Nicholson
cort: ben kinglsey
Henry Dean: Mickey Rourke
sheb : tom waits
Jack Mort : Gary Oldman
another awful miniseries?
that yet
he hasn't been around that much.
As for Lindelof, he's notorious among comic book fans for writing two issues of an Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk mini-series and never finishing it. Sure, sure, we keep hearing it's going to happen, but the second issue came out 8-9 months ago. Apparently, Lindelof's Lost obligations got in the way.
Good luck to abrams and i hope he does a good job with it.
as Odetta, Jake is a tough one, Eddie also would be difficult to cast. As far as
Jonas goes, I think the only person alive that could play him is Sam Elliot. Walter
Could be played by Julian Sands (that guy from the movie Warlock.) I think he
would be perfect for that role. Susanna maybe Scarlett Johanson?
I wasn't suggesting Caviezel to play Roland, but now that it's on the table... why not? What I was suggesting is that If Eastwood can't do it (and we all know that he's the first person to come to mind - he's got all the cred he needs, not to mention to some extent he IS who the character is modeled after), maybe they pick someone who doesn't carry the Hollywood visibility baggage so that the character stands on his own.
Man, I hope this all pans out.. I'm reading the series for the 8th time now.
Just my two cents worth, either way.
Eddie - Elijah Wood, Ryan Gosling, Topher Grace, even. Someone who could physically go from a emaciated junkie to a buff powerful gunslinger over the course of the story.
Susannah - Sanaa Lathan (Nip/Tuck). I can't imagine anyone else playing the role, she's been it for me from the start.
Jake - I always imagined a Haley Joel Osment type, but I'm sure they'd figure that one out.
I think that it should have a weird Spaghetti Western / Lord of the Rings type vibe throughout, but this story is so huge and expansive, I wonder if just one director's vision would be enough.
roland - Steven Seagal
eddie - Jean Claude Van Damme
jack - Hugh Grant
susannah - Hally Berry (sorry Blaine)
man in black - Jim Carrey (or, seriously this time, Johnny Depp!)
clive owen definitely as roland.
I trust j.j abrams seeming as i'm a huge Lost fan and Dark Tower fan.
Peace out
Mortensen does have more grit/look...both could pull it off.
Ryan Renolds could portray Eddie well, but doesn't have the junkie look,
need someone who has the look of a strung out junkie who isn't completely
over the need/addiction.
suzanna would be tricky...need a woman who could go back to back with
the dual personas that she contains within herself...
Jake...hmmmm...an Osment type would work, but finding one now is a
little tricky.
the original Flagg I would agree with for the Man in Black...only way to go.
As for actors, I saw Viggo Mortensen on the cover of a "Hidalgo" DVD in the video shop and instantly thought 'Roland' - check it out! I was also thinking Joseph Gordon-Levitt for Eddie (at least I think I am - the guy in 'Brick') if only 'cause that's kind of how I pictured him, and you don't want a guy that's too beefy or built. That's as far as I've gotten with casting, except to say that Hallie Berry is IN NO WAY right to play Susannah - she's too famous, too pretty and frankly I doubt she has the talent.
Kevin Costner or Bruce Willis as Roland? Nooooo!
over 7 years or so and ya know why? when they cast jake it has to be an
11yr old boy...for every movie. which means they'll pretty much have to make everything at once. its not like harry potter when he's a year older each movie.
that is the main issue. otherwise Hugh Jackman is the man for the Roland job
hands down. Chris evans who plays the human torch in fantastic 4 for Eddie
Dean. Thandie Newton for Susanna. Clive owen would make a great Jack Mort.
and always picture the voice of Blaine as the original Megatron voice from the
transformers cartoons. Oh CGI for Oy...although to be perfectly honest of all
the characters in all books, i wouldn't mind if they wrote Oy out of it. let's face
it it will just look silly on screen
You could never write Oy out.
Keanu Reeves as Roland. Laugh, then think about it.
Ed Burns or Shia Lebouf
Halle Berry as Susannah
some little shit as Jake
um Alan Rickman as the man in Black
Ewan Mcgregor or Keanu Reeves as Eddie
Gary Sinese as Walter o Dim
Gary Busey as tick tock man
Nick Nolte as Gasher
Bruce Willis as Cort
Halle Berry as Dette/Odetta/Mia/Susannah
Lian Neeson as Father Callahan
Jake Lloyd as Jake Chambers
Jason Isaacs as Steven Deschain
My list goes on
Jake Gross
Viggo sounds like a good pick for Roland.
July 21st, 2007 at 6:00 pm
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You could never write Oy out.
Keanu Reeves as Roland. Laugh, then think about it.
Keanu Reeves as Roland, thats a head scratcher... I laughed when i first heard the idea, then i lookedup some pictures or Reeves and i didnt seem that crazy. The hardest thing to get past, though, would easily be his voice. The Mr Im so stoned but dont want to admit it voice. Most notibly from the Matrix when he uttered the Oscar worthy line of dialogue, "I know kung-fu".... though he may be able to pull it ff, he still wouldnt be my first choice (thought im still not sure who would be....ill stick with what i said about an unknow being the best way to go)
My only hope is that they do this movie right and actually make 7 of them. Just like with the Harry Potter series, it's important to lock in a great cast NOW for all 7 books. And again, to do it right, each movie is going to have to be epic like the LOTR series was.
What about doing this as a long TV series? Each book could easily translate to a full season (say, 15-18 shows) on TV. Hmmm.
I will have to side on the minority on the casting. The cast should be made of mostly relative unknowns. If you put someone like Gibson or Willis (blech on both, personally) in the lead role, then it becomes about getting them paid and not about making a great movie.
You, as the director who is a fan of King's work and fan of the story, have to be able to work without worrying about bruising high dollar ego and without the worry of those same egos changing the story or tweaking bits because they "don't think it's right" and so on.
Again, done right, this is going to be the kind of movie that should create names. I think it would suffer from having (a lot of) big names attached to it. Go with unknown or lesser known talent.
Another case in point. When the LOTR trailers were running, in theaters and at home, I don't ever remember once seeing a cast member's name on the screen. The focus was the story. Flash forward to now and the next big release by the same film studio "The Golden Compass" and every trailer feels stained by the cast names. Do you really need to see Nicole Kidman's name to know it's her? No. It's like telling me you have no confidence in the movie to stand on its own merits but look at who we have in it.
To do this right you're going to have to get a cast that believes in the work, that believes in the story and wants to be a part of it.
Man, I hope it gets done right.
Nathan Fillion for Roland and Ben Browder for Eddie
Roland – Clint Eastwood or a no name actor (age is not an issue here). Clive Owen could do it, but he needs to work on desperation a bit more he's a little too wooden.
Eddie – Ed Burns or Ed Norton could do it. Johnny Deep might work too (need to rough them up a bit, who ever it is need to be able to do strung out well.)
Susanah – Gina Torres (little competition on this one)
Jake – I want a no name kid here (one that can act, no starwars anakin types)
The man in Black – Lance Henriksen
SK stopped giving a shit about his books about when Gerald's Game came out. That book I had to force myself through since I am such a King fan.
i think Roland should be: Josh Holloway.
i didn't think so at first, but when you think about it, he fits in kinda well really!
The end of the series is a waste. All the metaphysical and psychological bullshit that went into the story seems to go nowhere. If you ever wanted to feel unsatisfied at finishing any large task, there is no bigger let down than the end of the Gunslinger.
J.J. could change the end of the series, but I doubt it.
just another question, what book was the best? and what was the worst?
So I say lets cast Joaquin Phoenix as Roland, Ed Norton as Eddie, the rest wouldn't even matter.
I also agree that there is no way the story would work without Oy.
Movie adaptation is terrible idea, btw. Especially with such a "fashionable" director as J.J Abrams.
To jump subjects quick, I have to say that The King's movie record has been a bit spotty at best, (which he's admitted), and if this movie(s) is/are done poorly, I will cry, spit on, and burn the celluloid on which it's printed.
I'll try to sum up a few character choices here.
For Roland, I'd nominate Daniel Craig, Hugh Jackman, or possibly someone who, while not "unknown", is perhaps an excellent stage actor, or something of the sort. I would be disgusted by seeing a B-list actor depicting Roland. Not because I have a problem with b-listers, i think a Ray Liotta, Gary Sinise, or others are good actors, but there is a certain taint that goes hand in hand, and it's hard to dis-associate the actor from the character.
"But people in their 30/40's SIMPLY could not portray Roland"
Wrong.
You'd need someone with a bit of youth or athleticism to be able to depict Roland and gain/lose weight with the part. Digital effects and make-up can compensate, very well.
-Daniel Craig is grizzled, but i don't know if he could be dark enough for the role.
-Jackman is certainly versatile enough for the role, his work on stage and in The Fountain are enough to convince me of that.
For Eddie, I think that Jared Leto or Ed Norton would be good choices.
I think they both could pull of the look of youth for the characters, and Leto certainly did the junkie bit in a convincing way in Requiem for a Dream.
-Ed Norton is versatile and could bulk up or slim down as necessary, and would be a good fit.
Jake is a tough cast, but I also am not familiar with many "great" young actors.
Susannah could be played well by Halle Barry, or maybe Gabrielle Union...
Halle Barry would be a standout, but the name power could be an issue. I agree whole-heartedly with what a previous poster wrote about movies being stained with big names as ticket draw-ins.
...If only Halle were an unknown with the talent and versatility she has.
I think if coached well that Gabrielle Union could play Susannah well also, she's a solid actress, but her ability to play a character of Detta/Odetta/Susannah is definitely untested.
For Walter, I think Ian McShane would be a possibility.
Just a few suggestions and reasons while we're all just speculating and mentally casting :P
The Stand was so disappointing, networks are dead.
now i might only be 13, but i am quiet smart, and intellectual, for my age, the whole DT series, so far for me, have been amazing, but i would wish for the movie to have the same impact as the book did.
I do disagree about the last book...
But people are polarized one way or the other on that.
I think it was the only ending that was right.
Just because we didn't get the ending we wanted doesn't stop the ending we got from being right and true.
I do have reservations about having a flavor of the month fella like JJ is iffy...
I'm a huge Frank Miller fan, and i think the gritty styling he could bring to DT, and the atmospheric softness necessary would be brought well by him... or maybe the team that worked on deadwood.
Casting wise, I think they should go with mostly unknowns. Because with well known actors you often see them as their other characters no matter how good their acting is, and for something like DT you really wouldn't want that.
Eddie Dean- Edward Norton
Jake- ? (any young talent)
Susannah, Odetta, Detta, Mia -- Jada Pinkett Smith, Rosario Dawson
Walter (the man in black) -- Micheal Wincott
Lord Perth-- Arnold Govenator
Randal Flagg -- Peter Fonda
Calvin Tower -- Johnny Depp
Pere Callahan-- Randy Quaid
Blaine- (voiced) Hugo Weaving
It will be quite a challange to make these books into movies, without it totally being lost in translation. It will require a great attention to detail and a great knowledge of the entire story. I hope JJ Abrams is up to the challenge and I hope he listens to others to create an overall interpretation that doesn't suck. I think part one The Gunslinger could almost be a better movie than a book, the others, well they will be harder to make better movies than books, because the books are really good and well detailed. The Drawing of Three and The Wastelands would be interesting to see on the big screen, I can see it now the city of Lud. Please hire real fans to help make this, i would gladly take the job.
Eddie Dean- Edward Norton
Jake- ? (any young talent)
Susannah, Odetta, Detta, Mia  Jada Pinkett Smith, Thandie Newton
Walter (the man in black)  Michael Wincott (from The Crow, Robin Hood)
Lord Perth– Arnold (the Govenator)
Blaine -- (voiced) Hugo weaving
Randal Flagg  Peter Fonda
Calvin Tower  Johnny Depp
Pere Callahan– Randy Quaid
Narrator--Stephen King
I think the script should have actual narration in all seven movies like Richard Dryfus in Stand By Me, but have it be Stephen Kings voice reading certain parts straight out of the books. It makes sence if you think about it. The whole time he could be narrating from the Key World, but that doesn't make scence till later. So if I were JJ Abrams and I wanted to do this thing right I would script record and shoot all of SK's parts first and pay him $19 dollars to do it. Film all his scenes with blue screen and add in the rest later. I mean if you wanted to make it truley authentic. That was always the biggest thing that I feared about the books, that he would somehow die before he finished them and his Ka-tet would remain in the purgatory of his mid-world mind forever. That fear is now back with the word that he has optioned the DT books to JJ. It all seems so Ironic now, it's the fear that it will all be over soon that drives us ehhh!
halle berry - monster's ball: detta
halle berry - the hacker movie with hugh jackman odetta and/or susannah
daniel craig - bond - perfect monotonous one-line answers for roland. just dye his hair brown and yes, he has the shooters eyes.
i think whomever they cast as jake would make or break the film
this kid's gotta play crazy, whiny, scary, tough, childish etc. etc. etc.
they might even have to cast different characters as the seperate movies progress. and what are you people thinking with the mini-series stuff. think of the vast expanses of desert, blaine the mono scenes. the city of lud, gashers run through lud with jake in tow. etc etc etc.
this needs to be 7 seperate big budget full on hollywood films with all the doodads. it's the environs of the different where's and when's that make it so gritty, not roland. roland's a drab, monotonous but idyllic character. like a dirty harry from another world. how many times did the narrative talk about just how un-imaginative and dispassionate roland was. usually stories like this have a spectacular hero, with boring backdrops. roland is more like a stone in some alien ocean teeming with strange life. his plainness makes him the exception in the world king layed out for him.
...and that brings me to Roland. This character (to me) must be cast perfectly, or I'm not sure if i could even watch without wanting to kill myself as each second of the film passed my eye (as I'm sure many of you out there feel). Thus far, people have been suggesting actors such as Hugh Jackman, Heath Ledger, Val Kilmer and Daniel Craig (just to name a few) for the role of the Gunslinger. Hugh Jackman could maybe pull it off,but Roland is known by some as "old long, tall and ugly" and (being a straight guy, don't get me wrong) Jackman isn't realy any of the above (except maybe tall). Heath Ledger is just too young for such a role. Roland must be in his 60s at least, and Ledger is just too young to even be made up to look like that. Ledger has been cast as the Joker for the upcoming Batman film, "The Dark Knight" (which I am anticipating gittily, being a HUGE Batman fan).That role will show his real range as an actor to many people (me especially, since I am not familure with really any of Ledger's work, so his range as an actor is a mystery to me.) Time will tell for Ledge. Val Kilmer as Roland is another interesting suggestion. His range seems good (I am also a huge Jim Morrison fan) and his look could be tailored to suit the roll. Last but not least (for me; for now) is Daniel Craig. I have only seen him as James Bond in Casino Royale, but his talent as an actor to me seems very clear: he's good... but could he be Roland? He doesn't really have the "old long, tall and ugly" look to him. He could maybe loose some muscle to bulk down for the roll, but I still don't think he has the look, which is essential in this case.
To me, the perfect pick for Roland would have to be Lance Henriksen. He has the look that is topped only by Eastwood when it comes to Roland. He is also a fairly solid actor. (please, if you don't know who he is, look him up on Google images, and tell me he doesn't look perfect for Roland... I dare you to be able to do that.)
Well, that is it for me for now. Remeber, these have only been my opinions, and if anyoe agrees or diagrees, please post it. I'd love some feedback. Long Days and pleasent nights to you.
Eddie - Sean William Scott
Susannah - Jada Pinkett Smith
Jake - that dude from 6th sense ;) (or is he too old now?)
Walter - Chris Walken
Pere Callahan - James Cromwell
Sheemie - Andy Serkis
Ted Brautigan - Anthony Hopkins(Hearts in Atlantis)
HARRISON FORD!!! DUH... I win!
Eddie - Sean William Scott
Susannah - Jada Pinkett Smith
Jake - that dude from 6th sense ;) (or is he too old now?)
Walter - Chris Walken
Pere Callahan - James Cromwell
Sheemie - Andy Serkis
Ted Brautigan - Anthony Hopkins(Hearts in Atlantis)
very good actors and actresses!!!
Viggo Mortensen as Roland
Ryan Gosslin as Eddie Dean
I think this would work out great on HBO
If it did go to the Big Screen, I can only think of Peter Jackson. He would get it right and do it justice.
Firestarter was good. Creepshow good, His short stories translate better on film.
Worst SK books to movies; Christine (loved the book the movie was chopped up bad), It (loved the book, again left way too much out in the movie.) same with The Stand. Needful Things (Liked the book a lot the movie sucked pretty bad), The Dark Half (loved the book, the movie was okay but fell short.) Cujo better book, The Running Man, better as a book.
Pet Sematary (movie fell way short, the book was actually scarey).
I already know the Dark Tower movies won't reach my expectations, but I still want to see them. I actually think the first book would almost be better as a movie. The last four will be the hardest to translate into film. I just hope people read the books first before they watch the films.
I would be extremely excited to see these books done properly on the big screen. Many of kings books have been a fizzer on the screen (exception green mile), which is disappointing, but it is crutial the right man gets the job for this. A bit like Jackson doing LOTR, he didnt screw it up (I love the movies as much as the books). The biggest problem I can see is the first book as a movie (only a fan of the books would enjoy and prob only needs 2-3 hours). But all other 6 books would have to be 3 hours with interest to do any kind of justice.
Harry Potter has been destroyed on the big screen, so I pray the same is not sone to these these books...
AND I LOVE THE IDEA FOR JOHNNY DEPP PLAYING THE MAN IN BLACK, BUT CHRISTOPHER WALKEN WOULD WORK TO...
Since this is like SK's life works, he wont want to be rushing into anything, so I guess we wont be holding our breath here. It is exciting though, I was depressed when the DT books were finished, the harry potter books now gone, and the starwars / LOTR movies finished. I need something I am passionate about to be released again!
Like many of you, I am currently re-reading the series. Finding it even more fascinating the 2nd time round. (Jake currently sprinting through Lud with gasher!)
Kick immediately!
He has Roland's eye's, take a look and tell me he doesn't.
Also back on lost, even if some people dont rate the show, you gotta admit they are passionate and do a thorough job...
whoever they end up picking to play roland, so long as he is "long, tall and ugly" with blue eyes, thats all that matters in looks. But it's even more important they get his character right. We dont want a Hayden Christensen type disaster.
Thomas Haden Church is Roland of Gilead, I'd watch it.
Thandie Newton for Susannah
Christian Bale or Edward Norton either one for Eddie
Being that there are really no child actors to date that would do Jake justice, I'm just going to leave that blank.
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1. How do you find an actor to play a character so closely likened to Clint Eastwood without enlisting Eastwood himself? But he's 80, right?
2. How do you keep Jake Chambers 12 years old and never aging throughout 7 movies and possibly 10 years as the series plays out?
Then I saw the trailer for Beowulf, and thought, "That's how."
It's gotta be graphic, bloody, and very much a movie for adults, but wouldn't it be awesome to see? Cast whoever you want, in CG, they'll always look the part...
Ty
Eddie= a.) Ben Stiller, b.) Orlando Bloom
Jake= Zachary Browne
Walter= a.) John Lithgow, b.) Ron Perlman
Susannah= a.) Missy Elliott, b.) Queen Latifah
As for my ideal cast.............
Roland: Clive Owen
Eddie Dean: Paul Walker/Ryan Gossling
Henry Dean: Brad Pitt
Susannah Dean: Thadie Newton
Jake: Someone new
Marten/Flagg/Ageless Stranger/Maerlyn, etc. : Gary Oldman
Man In Black: Jeremy Irons
Stephen Deschain: Clint Eastwood
As for my ideal cast.............
Roland: Clive Owen
Eddie Dean: Paul Walker/Ryan Gossling
Henry Dean: Brad Pitt
Susannah Dean: Thadie Newton
Jake: Someone new
Marten/Flagg/Ageless Stranger/Maerlyn, etc. : Gary Oldman
Man In Black: Jeremy Irons
Stephen Deschain: Clint Eastwood
Crimson King: Christopher Lee
Ed Norton for Eddie Dean
Roland-Thomas Jane
Eddie -Johnny Knoxville
Susannah-Rosario Dawson
Jake-Haley Joel Osmont (probably to old though)
Walter-Keifer Sutherland
Steven- Michael Douglas
Susan Delgado- Hayden Panettiere
Donald- Rene Auberjonois
Calvin-Liam Neeson
the crimson king- Jack Nicholson
Cort-Kurt Russel
Henry Dean- Nathan Fillio
Whenever I read the books That's the picture i get.
Rosario Dawson is Susannah. I think she is one of the few actresses who can do justice to not only the multiple personalities but the action sequences as well.
Edward Nortan IS Eddie Dean. He can do crazy (Fight Club). And if you think he can't look the part when he becomes a gunslinger than you didn't see American History X.
In the first book Jake is 9. Therefore, an unknown should be cast. However, later in the series I believe he has gotten older. Correct me if I'm wrong. I recently saw Frankie Munez ?(Malcom In The Middle)in a tv show and to me he looked like Jake. The Jake that kicks ass and shoots and throws really sharp plates.
Also, I love the idea of Tom Waits as Sheb.
I think the suggestions for Blaine's voice are too dark. Blaine should be almost giddy. Maybe a young voice or someone like Steve Buscemi or Tim Roth perhaps.
And, one last thing, the is no Dark Tower series (at least the later half) without Oy. Don't even think otherwise.
Otherwise Kiefer Sutherland (unless he's turned into Bauer) would be good and I would agree with Viggo Mortensen if it was not for Lord of the Rings. Thomas Jane is a good shout too or perhaps a brilliant little know guy, they always add to the experience if they play it well.
I see Clive Owen is another favourite, but for me he is a tv actor who ruined King Arthur. Just my opinion.
Otherwise Kiefer Sutherland (unless he's turned into Bauer) would be good and I would agree with Viggo Mortensen if it was not for Lord of the Rings. Thomas Jane is a good shout too or perhaps a brilliant little know guy, they always add to the experience if they play it well.
I see Clive Owen is another favourite, but for me he is a tv actor who ruined King Arthur. Just my opinion.
Roland-Clint Eastwood (doubt he's physicaly able)
Eddie- Dane Cook
Susannah- Halae Barry
Jake- Unknown Child Actor
Oy- A Chimpanzee in a Dog Suit
Walter (all ego's)- Christopher Walken
Susan- Tom Cruise in a Dog Suit
Crimson King- Geoffrey Rush
Cort- Ron Peralman
Jonas- Sam Eliot
Steven- Gerard Butler
Blaine- Jack Nickholson
Tick-Tock Man- Whoever plays Hagrid in Harry Potter
And, voila. You've got a movie going. Yay for us...
the whole series. They have to film them all at once, like
they did with Lord of the Rings. All at once, or very close
together, that's the only way I see it being done.
They'll have to do a lot of extra preperation to film 7 movies
at once, so I think it's safe to say we won't see this movie
for another 5 years or more.
April 25th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Roland - Mortensen, Daniel Craig, they’d be good, but what about Kevin McKidd, the guy who played Lucius Vorenus on HBO’s “Rome� Am I the only one who imagines Roland speaking with an English accent?
its funny you say that as i found when reading the books roland spoke some gaelic /scottish words and pictured the ancient citys as having a highland link(the highlands of scotland have a VERY magical history)
Also, in regards to the ending
~ spoilers ahead ~
I would want to see the movies conclude with the first ending of the book (the three, in another world, together).
After the credit rolls, have the same basic spiel that King gave us. That there was an ending, and you could be happy with it, but if you want to go on, watch on. Then, after the credits, show the ending that was at the end of the book.
The entire theme of the whole dark tower book series was Addiction. The ending was VERY fitting. We could have a happy, completely, finished ending if we wanted it. But we are Tower-addicts, and we couldn't live with that...and thus, much as Roland is set to forever be tormented searching endlessly for his tower, so too are we.
Roland = Daniel Day Lewis
Eddie = Ryan Gosling
Susanna = Naomie Harris
Daniel Day Lewis is too evil looking to play Roland. Ryan Gosling isn't witty enough to play Eddie. Now Naomi Harris as Susannah Dean that is a good suggestion, but she would have to lose that Jar Jar speech(lol) she had in Pirates. Out of the people in the right age group I think THC looks the most like Roland. But I did see Eastern Promises yesterday and I'd have to say the fight scene in that movie reminded me of The Drawing of The Three, and Viggo could pull off Roland very well I think. So Viggo M. and THC are my favorite picks for the man. Eddie Dean is Ed Norton, he can play young, strung out, witty, and he looks like a Gunslinger.
Anyways, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but to me he's perfect. Also just got the first dark tower book for christmas so looking forward to starting my journey.
im not saying dont make a movie...but do not forget the face of your father and do the Dark Tower some justice....dig a little deeper when making your suggestions...dont just throw out the most obvious mainstream actors names to fill roles...stephen king didnt write the dark tower for you...he wrote it for himself because it was a part of him and something deeper inside of himself that id imagine even he didnt understand at times...therefore a movie shouldnt be something thats thrown together so easily.so fellow gunslingers,please give your suggestions a little more thought in hopes that what ends up being created by king for the film will allow us to feel all those same feelings of discovery and joy that reading the books did.
Since anything HBO touches in my opinion is golden I would really love to see it as a 2-4 year project.
P.S. IT and The Stand sucked as mini-series' they fell way short if you ask me, the only thing good about The Stand was Gary Sinise and they only thing good about IT was Tim Curry. See good actors do matter.
Personally,im hesitant with JJ Abrahms also but Cloverfield definetly peaks my interest.And he better hope that whatever it ends up being that its worth it because if not it will blow his reputation.And Im also glad that theyre making the movies.Books will be books and you cant ever take that away from the readers that love them.Ill start thinking of a cast list that Id find intruiging but like you said...doesnt really matter what any of us think does it.Its in JJ's hands now.
I agree with you about Roland it was the other characters that defined him along with the picture King painted for us of Mid-World, for me, the reason I would like to see it on film, (long three hour films with extended dvd versions) is because of the backdrops of the story. I think Mid- World itself is a defining character --so to speak-- that might be lost in a tv version, i think in a similar comparison it is what made the Lord of The Rings movies so epic even though some of the story was lost along the way.
As for Abrams he needs devote the rest of his career to The Dark Tower and then he can retire, if he did it right it would be a career. If he and they can capture the visual backdrops of the books I will be happy. They can't possibly mess too much else up with the characters, it's all there and well defined, of course much of the story will be lost, as in movies they often are, but as long as they get the really important stuff and surprise us with some of the subtleties, I will be happy with it. It will never replace the books no matter how good it is, that's a given.
Daniel Day Lewis is arguably one of the best living actors around. He's talented and he looks the part, with dark hair and icy blue eyes.
Ryan Gosling is actually young enough for the part. Eddie Dean is in his early 20's in the books. Again, he's proven himself a worthy actor capable of handling the more difficult aspects of Eddie.
I'd have gone with Ed Norton fifteen years ago, but he's pushing forty now, he's too old.
Now, if all you've seen of Naomie Harris is from Pirates of the Caribbean, I advise you to add 28 Days Later to you rental, que, STAT!
That is Susannah. :-)
I was going for raw talent and looks/age appropriateness for the roles.
I also think Powers Booth, Rip Torn, and Sam Elliot should be in there somewhere.
If this move was made a while ago..I would have to go with Rutger Hauer as Roland, but he is to old now.
After watching the Departed, I belive that Leo Dicaprio would be a pretty good Eddie Dean
Susannah I would have to go with Rosario Dawson.
Jake would have to be an unknown..not to many famouse 10-11 year olds running around today.
As far as the wastelands go as a charchter I agree a huindred percent which is why I say HBO.I feel like HBO truly delves into every story they do one hundred and ten percent.Plus on a premium channel they dont have to hold anything back.You cant tell this story in 3 3 hour films with extended dvd versions...12 hours isnt enough.I agree,I wont be satisfied no matter how they do it but if youre gonna try at least try right.
Doreen,I dont think the fact that some people cant afford HBO is a reason for the DT not to be made on a premium channel.Obviously enough people are paying the extra 5-15 bucks a month because of all the amazing shows theyve had over the years,(Deadwood,sopranos,carnival,oz,the wire,curb your enthusiasm,etc,etc).Second,really...Tommy Lee Jones as Roland???nuff said.
DC Movie girl....Daniel Day Lewis is the best actor out there right now in my opinion.Anything that guy touches is gold and Im going to see There Will Be Blood tonight and cant wait.Although I dont see him as Roland I wouldnt sneer ifthey casted him so.Im not so into Ryan Gosling as Eddie een though I also think hes an awesome actor.Although I agree one hundred percent on Powers Booth,Rip Torn and Sam Elliot.Throw Ian McShane in there and I think you just discovered my western wet dream.
Jeff-I dont see what all this hoo-haw is with Thomas Jane.Hes great as a walking steotype actor but after that I dont know.He was an awesome Punisher but I just dont see it.I hate the idea of taking anyone whos played a main super-hero roll and making them a lead in the dark tower.Maybe thats just me but it seems boring and redundant.
I know I have alot of opinions and I promise to print my own list of charchters soon and then you can all rip me to pieces.That is the fun thing about this is none of us are right and yet none of usare wrong.Heading to work....talk to you guys later.
I meant 7 three hour movies with extended dvd version, don't get me wrong. Tommy Lee Jones in noway do I see him as Roland, but I do like his films.
Of course I think all of them will be great as movies at least in parts, but really what I think will be awesome on film, is when Susannah lets those Rizas fly. I can't wait to see that.
Naomie Harris for Susannah.
That'd be dream casting for me...
This is for anyone who has any pull in this film, who reads these blogs.
Can we get a real, honest to God, tough black woman for this, instead of a mixed ingenue for Susannah, please?
No Halle Berry and no Rosario Dawson, awesome though they are.
Consider Tracie Thoms, Sanaa Lathan, or Kerry Washington, if not my #1 pick, Naomie Harris.
I'm sorry to go off on a tangent but, I had to say that. The above ladies, as talented as they are, do not get to work enough.
And they all fit the role better than Hal' and Ro'.
For Eddie, I can see, (besides Ryan Gosling) Jason Gordon Levitt, James Franco, or Ben Forster
Jake would've been Cameron Bright or Josh Hutcherson, though they'll both more than likely, too old for this.
I'd also add Hollis Mason, Tim Roth, and Lance Henricksen to the casting mix.
Roland...wow, besides Lewis, I'd go with an actor in his early 40's...I think you guys are skewing a bit too young.
Scott Glenn 20 years ago would've been perfect.
Roland: Kurt Russel (remeber Snake Plissken)
Eddie: Leonardo DiCaprio
Susan: Gina Torres
Jake: some unknown actor
Walter ( Man in Black): Neal McDonough
Daniel Day Lewis is already in his fifties. :) And he doesn't need make-up to look like Roland. He has the steal-blue eyes and dark hair, already.
Plus, and I don't think you can argue this, I think Roland would sound pretty silly with the thick California accent, Thomas Haden Church has.
As talented as the man is, Church can't touch Lewis acting-wise.
Plus,Dark Tower would not be a cult film.Its one of the largest selling and read series of the last 30 years.you are talking multi billion dollar franchise here.Stephen King is the number one most read author in America....everyone knows what the Dark Tower is,even if they havent read it.
Ill be posting my cast at the end of the week and I look forward to everyones opinions.
Now the guy who plays Johnny Storm(Chris Evans)...I cant see him as Eddie Dean either
I do not believe EVERYONE knows about the Dark Tower series. Stephen King is very popular, but not everyone knows about, or has read his Dark Tower series. Casual readers of King would be more familiar with Carrie, The Shining, Misery etc..
Sure, THC is a capable actor. Yes, that is what it's called. :)
I just get why you pick THC over DDL considering the stretch he'd need to traverse is much wider, than his.
Proof he can wheel a gun (Johnny Ringo tombstone). Give Mr. Biehn a day in court tell me what you think?
But the whole thing should be left as pages if given anything less than the lord of the rings treatment.
When I picture Roland as I read, I find it hard to compare his looks to any actor I have known. As for Clint, I find it hard to beleive he looks anything like him! The first time I read the books I pictured Viggo, but not the 2nd time around... The Dumbledore-ish blazing blue eyes are obviously important. As is the "long tall and ugly part".
Hugh Laurie.... I can only picture him in Blackadder, so for me it seems weird. I cant even watch House because of that series, and he also had a funny role in a friends episode...
Ka like the wind
1) Marc Singer
2) Jeff Fahey
3) Peter Horton (may be to lighthearted)
About Eragon, I didn't read the book, I saw the movie and I didn't like it. It was trying to follow some formula that reminded me of certain exact plot points from the original Star Wars Trilogy, and Star Wars did it way better. About Christian Bale as Roland, he is way too young, he's only 33 years old.
If theres any proof about how different we all percieve and digest these books its the comments on this page.People have recommended things that blow my mind....I cant even believe some of the suggestions Ive heard but that doesnt mean theyre wrong.Thats how you percieve the Dark Tower for yourself.
So yea,a movie will let every reader down no matter who you are....thats always the trouble with turning a book into a film.Key word:INTERPRETATION.Words allow us to create our own visual where film does not...end of story.So lets cut all the this shouldnt be a movie bull because thats obvious.We live in a world controlled by the dollar and were talking about a multi million dollar franchise.No matter how great and creative all these people are that we admire who write and create the books,tv,and film we love....dont forget that money rules them all.So lets try to just have fun with this instead of taking it so seriously....
PS-vvs...you said you find it hard to believe that Clint looks anything like Roland....go read up on your dark tower because Stephen King says himself that roland was directly molded from Clint Eastwood in his early western career.I still say Clint could play roland because hes supposed to be old and you can always take off a few years with cgi and makeup.The mans been traveling the world hundreds of years....hes gonna be worn out.
Have read the books a few times and they are up there with my all time favs, but until I read the line where Roland says "go ahead make my gunslinger burrito" then I'll stick with my vision of Roland :)
Blake-- I liked Jeff Fahey in The Lawnmower man, Roland? Maybe.
Marc Singer was awesome in the V series. If you've only seen V and V The Final Battle, I suggest the 19 episode TV series that followed Final Battle, it was pretty entertaining. I know netflix has it. Singer as Roland? Maybe.
Good suggestions. Really I like them.
After I read all your comments, I thougt, well why not giving you my suggestions for possible actors. This is going to take a little while so, take your time if it does ya:
1. When you think of Roland there is one sentence you got to consider: "Long, tall and ugly" and there are only two actors who truely fit that profile: Viggo Mortensen - he's just got the eyes, the looks and the ability of becoming roland!
and Russell Crowe. Ever seen "The Quick and the dead"?
2.Susannah: Definetely Jada Pinkett Smith
3. Eddie Dean: anyone ever thought of Dominic Monaghan?
4. Jake: I do not know his name, but the boy who played in "The mummy returns" could fit.
5. Cort: Sir Sean Connery
6. Stephen: Paul Bettany
7. Gabrielle: Famke Janssen
8. Susan Delgado: Natalie Portman
9. Cuthbert: Well, as he is the funny guy - Heath Ledger
10. Alan: Edward Norton
11. Calvin Tower: John Rhys Davis
12. Aaron Deepneau: Gene Hackman
13. Pere Callaghan: Anthony Hopkins
14. Walter/Flagg: Jamie Sheridan (the guy who allready played Flagg in the Stand;
15. Crimson King: Alan Rickman
Well, thats just how I saw the characters when i read the books, but I think the King will just make sure that the actors who will be castet for the roles just fit in.
Well, see ya.
Long days and pleasant nights.
I still Like Thomas Haden Church the best.
IF YOU HAVEN"T READ THE BOOKS DON"T READ BLACKBIRDS COMMENT he has no clue on what really happened.
I did see El Machinist, that movie really made me feel weird inside. It really evoked a psychological reaction. He is a fine actor, and quite the chameleon when it comes to his roles and getting into character. To go from that role to Bruce Wayne is a chameleon leap. I hear he is rumored to be John Conner in the new Terminator. I wouldn't mind him as Eddie Dean, but I still think Ed Norton and Tim Roth should play the Dean brothers.
I didn't see Sweeney Todd so far, it will be in theatres this week. Looking forward to see it though.
I guess, if he really would write some comments on this side, he'd use some other name, like roland, or somthing like that...
The only way i could see this working on film is if it is made into a long mini-series/show on tv. 10 years ago i would have totally against this because the effects were always shit and everything was totally low-budget including the actors, but nowadays u look at shows like Lost, Heroes, Carnivale, and Entourage and they are amazing. Great actors, great special effects and u can tell a story that spans whole seasons. And what i hope J.J. Abrams does is make it into a HBO series or something for a year or 2, that way nothing is excluded and all the characters would hardly age.
Anyways that what i think should, and what i hope, happens. The movies may end up being kinda cool but they won't tell the same story as the books if they have to cut everything down for a 2-3 hour movie and alot of fans will be pissed.
u only see rolands feet and hands til towards the end, then u notice that he's not a person at all, but a MONSTER!! and he bleeds lil monsters that are easily killed with big wrenches, even when the ambush u in a dark subway tunnel!
ps: if u havent seen cloverfield you wont know wat im talking bout
pss: roland should be played by Ice Cube
Some movie adaptations of King's books are good, even great sometimes, but other are bad or really bad, so I don't know if we should get our hopes really high, even if King really trusts Abrams and Lindelof.
The Dark Tower series is a true masterpiece, so think of the PRESSURE! I mean, it's gotta be REAL GOOD or NOTHING!!! I'm easily disappointed when it comes to movie adaptations of books, so yeah, I'm a bit afraid.
That's the ONLY way everything can be encompassed the right way, with perfect casting.
I hope JJ Abrams decided to it that way.
(tell the gods thankya)
I actually DID NOT read the end,
I put the book down, like King said I should, because
the fun is in the adventure. And endings are heartless
(and I am satisfied with that say thankya)
I want the movie to do that too, Give the viewer the option
to turn off the film. That'd be cool.
How about they do the first three books as movies then have it cliff hang. Wait two or three years for the forth movie to come out, make Wizard so good it wins like 11 Oscars. Then start a HBO TV series for the last three books with an entirely different cast.
For one I'm sure there are quite a few actors who would jump at the chance to be in this movie even if for just a cameo. Also I'm sure whatever way this movie is filmed they could record all of one actors parts at once and spread them out across the films. I think for the part of Jake this would be a necessity. They would probably only have about a 1-2 year window to film him as a boy and therefore would have to film all his parts closely together. Any scene without him could be filmed later. I know with Lord of the Rings they filmed the bulk of the movie back to back for 2 plus years and then only filmed a few parts here and there as needed afterward. 6 years later the movie still looks state of the art. Where I'm going with this is that it should be a movie rather than a miniseries even though the latter is more feasable to get the whole story. I just feel that this desrves the grandest of stages and If they can film back to back for maybe two different sessions of a 2 years a piece I think it is possible that they could have 7 movies within 7-10 years. Harry Potter, Chronicles of Narnia, and The Golden Compass are doing it. This would have to be J.J. Abrahams masterpiece and I'm sure he wouldn't do it unless he intended to nail it and do it right. I'm sure that they will take their time and plan ahead for this movie and pick the right cast. Honestly I don't expect that we will see the first one until about 5 years from now. But I hope they make it worth the wait. One more thing I think each book deserves it's own film no matter how many hours it takes to get the story in there.
I just thought of another Roland possibility, tell me if I'm off or not----
Aidan Quinn? He does have those war blue eyes.
As for every one else the ideas are great for the most part, but the only way to make this work is for Jake to be CGI (Say Thanki Gollum, say sorry Jar Jar Binks) Lets face it the story takes two years even if Si King took thirty to write it. the films will take at least ten years to make, hence CGI Jake.
Finally, the book is always better. so enjoy the films for what they are, put them in a box when you reread the book and enjoy the book.
The Dude Abides man.
how bout
Josh Brolin. Its perfect- c'mon, admit it.
Most people skew Roland too young. Viggo could work, but most people associate him with Aragorn. I think it's too similar in scope (an epic multi-film thing). Josh Brolin is too young.
And Eddie is skewed too old.
Susannah, is usually, somebody who isn't fully black...and Oy! Everybody forgets about Oy!...I kid. :)
I think it may be best to cast someone relatively unknown, like Viggo was when he was cast, who's in his mid-forties to early fifties.
Eddie is in his early twenties, drug-addict-wirey with dark hair and hazel eyes.
Susannah is in her early thirties, with strong arms, and variable features. She's gotta be a convincing vicious/scary Detta Walker and a nice-looking Susannah.
Jake starts at around eleven years old.
PLEASE keep these features in mind, when you think of your dream cast.
As for Ed Norton as Eddie Dean, he isn't too old, the guy could age ten more years and he will still look young if you ask me. He is 39 but can look in his twenties, it's how he looks on screen more than his actual age. Watch "Down In The Valley" and tell me that ain't Eddie Dean. The Guy who played Seth in Superbad is 23 playing an 17/18 year old, it's done all the time in hollywood, as they say, it's acting.
I just finished the series, say thankya.
SAY THANKYA
jEROMY
We can't have the cast dying of old age before the seven movies are complete. I sometimes urinate on my paintings that's what makes them priceless.
10 years ago...yes. But why waste time on make-up when, if you wanna compare the benchmark of all book-based epics, they did not for Lord of the Rings?
There's a reason Stuart Townsand and was let go for Aragorn. There's only so much make-up can do, age-wise.
They should do what they did for that. Cast talented relative unknowns, who fit the book descriptions. Period.
Any mucking with that formula, would result in a subpar adaptation.
Hopefully, JJ Abrams will be as obsessively devoted to detail as Jackson and not as beholded to the studio-system as Chris Wietz in his massive failure with Golden Compass.
Oh and Thomas Haden Church would be better than Daniel Day Lewis as Roland, glad you aren't casting this thing DC.
I've always believed that Russel Crowe could play the best Roland. Odetta/Detta/Susannah would probably end up being played by Beyonce... I hate to say it it's just how it looks. Flagg.... the person best suited to play Flagg would be Jamey Sheridan...
Randy Flagg is Walter the Shape Shifter right? and the Pusher, I think they may have to cast several people as Walter, his voice should always stay the same and as the man in Black he should be "Michael Wincott voice too."
Do you think John Fogerty read these books?, his new song "Gunslinger" reminds me of Roland.
You eliminate running the risk of poor casting and gain a much better insight into Steven Kings origional conception of eg Gilead, The Waste Lands, Muties, the Ka-tet and the Tower itself. Visually the piece itself would age better, considering it wont date as quickly as a live cast with CGI. I mean look at something like AKIRA, it came out in 1988 and it's still as visually stimulating now as then.
For me personally that's the only way to go.
PS Clive Owen?...............CLIVE OWEN!?............roland? Never. Can't think of anyone much worse, 'cept for maybe Adam Sadler, he's all short and chunky + a mediocre actor, wouldn't fit to well with the "long, tall and ugly" nickname. (that maybe a misquote).
PPS Johnny Depp, if a live action picture were to be made he would have to be in it "." The man oozes class from every theatrical pore, he could even be Oy, i don't care just get him in it!
Don't get me wrong I like the ideas of all animation or all CGI, but for me I would like to see it done much like The Lord of The Rings. Their are too many parts that would look great on film. If they reach 60% of my expectation's I will be happy.
My Roland List in order:
Thomas Haden Church
Michael Biehn
Viggo Mortensen
Gary Oldman
Val Kilmer
Harrison Ford
Marc Singer
Aiden Quinn
Eddie Dean in Order:
Ed Norton
Christian Bale
Leo Dicaprio
Look at him in films like american psycho (especially) trim his hair a bit, put a cowboy hat on him, actually bollocks to that, look at him in 3:10 to Yuma where he actually plays a cowboy. Although he's a bit stocky in it, we're well aware that he's able to modify his appearance (the machinist) for me he's got that gaunt thing going on, can look stern but also has a pretty cheery smile, dark hair, just give him some stubble and coloured contacts. *PING*
the first book would have to be 1 1/2 hours 2 at the most. books 2, 3, and 4 could go 2 to 2 1/2 hours. books 5, 6, and 7 should be 3 to 3 1/2 hours.
my cast would be viggo for roland, clint eastwood for cort, ed norton or christian bale for eddie, thandie newton for susannah, i do not know that many kid actors out there so jake is up in the air.
When they did the stand miniseries I was sad. (Who cast Molly Ringwald?) Jeff Cooper made a good Flagg but other than him and Mother Abigail I was dissapointed.
Who said LOST was stupid?, I thought it had great character development and a good suspenseful story and Charlie played by Merry Brandybuck was great in it. I still haven't seen all of LOST but I'm renting them one disk at a time, and it is quite addicting I must say. I can see why King likes the show. I think J.J. will do a fine job with The Dark Tower. Remember books and movies each have there own taste and both can be delicious. I get a thinny just thinking of it.
the first three books could make a 2 1/2 - 3hour movie.
the end of the first movie could be right before roland tells his story in wizard and glass.
the second movie picks up there and on with the next two books
the dark tower could be the third movie on its own.
as you are all kings "constant readers" you probably know that he is not shy of the fact that he can drag a story out far more than needed. i think it will be much more simple than most might think to condense this epic and keep to the story-line.
But i really love some of the suggestions, you'd all make some good movies in my opinion.
I agree w/ Hugh Jackman....what a hottie!
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Thandee is waaaaaay to scrawny for Suzanne.....what about Sanaa Lathan?
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I'd really like to see some fresh faces out there....not sure what to do about Jake though.
I'm very excited about the entire concept.....would even love it as an HBO series. Not sure about the director though....I REALLY hated Cloverfield....sigh; I loved the writing for LOST though, and I hear so did Stephen King.
*keeping fingers crossed*
For Cort, I suggest the chainsaw-wielding maniac from the "Be the Boss of what your kids watch" commercials (Tell the zombies that they're blocked too!). He's bald, barrel chested and looks like the comic book version of Cort.
For Jake, maybe the kids from "Suite Life of Zach and Cody", before they hit puberty too hard.
James Cromwell sticks in mind as Father Callahan. I think he was in the first 'Salem's Lot mini-series. He'd be the right age as well.
Michael Clarke Duncan would be awesome as Hax.
I definitely think of this as an HBO series...ABC would probably object to Eddie's naked shoot-out in Balazar's Leaning Tower, not to mention demon-sex and mescaline usage.
Miley Cyrus as Susan Degado.
And, for comedy relief that isn't all that funny, Carrot Top as the dweller Brown.
LEONARDO DICAPRIO for Eddie? Does that sound wrong to ANYONE else? Um...I think my mind would go back to his dippy character in Titanic, eh? I think the character deserves more credit than that.
Viggo for Roland wouldn't be bad, but you know, I have a really hard time picking ANYONE I think could do the trick...but maybe he could.
I think Brad Dourig (Grima from LOTR) would be TERRIBLE as the man in black...I mean, no pun intended, but his character was so wormy and disgusting and I see the man in black as kind've a rogue stallion...I mean, it has to be someone you can respect in an "I hate you" way, not someone you just hate. I mean, he left crawling on his knees, and if you read the books, it got worse.
And whoever said you didn't finish the book like King suggested you shouldn't, are you serious? I mean, is that something you just say, or what? How could you not finish?!! I waited YEARS AND YEARS to finish.
I didn't cheat to see what was at the top of the tower, and boy, was it worth it. In my humble opinion.
I think they could pull this movie off if they put more attention to the production than LOTR did...I mean, they left a lot of stuff out of that, but it was still a really really great epic set of movies. I'd hate to see them leave almost anything out...
but you know, I thought Wizard and Glass, at least the retelling, was the most boring part of this wonderful, wonderful tale. My favorite...hm...hard call...probably Wolves of the Calla. Or the Drawing.
was anyone else bothered by Detta/Odetta/Susannah's character? I just, for some reason, really didn't like her. Maybe that seems terrible, but I didn't. Not really sure why, either...I just thought her character was kind've anticlimatic and slowed down the action of the story as a whole.
As great as some of these actors are, I personally think that they all would then be "Them" as ...
What about finding fantatic actors that aren't known? That way the movies will be just about the Tower and the characters, not about who signed to be whom? The only one that would have to be known is King himself, it would be totally redonkulos to have someone else play King. Even if King can't act, that's fine (in fact that'd be better). King does state that Clint's western characters are/were influental for Roland and so though Clint is *sign* too old to play Roland - though he'll always be Roland in my mind. Clint of Stephen D. is actually a great idea.
I agree that they should film all 7 as one really, really long movie and then cut as the books are cut for release.
Weta should do the FX and for the love of god don't get John Williams to score it - it'll just be star wars with guns. Danny Elfman maybe.
It would absolutely be the best to find all unknown actors. I don't know if it's just me (but it kind've sounds like it is just me) but I really wouldn't want Halle to play Susannah, either. I don't know, I just have way too much respect for the Dark Tower to see these silly typecast actors and actresses in these roles.
I mean, didn't this blow anyone else's mind, or what? It's worth a lot more than Hollywood starlets. Or whatever.
And whoever thinks the FCC's going to censor a movie...what? Have you seen some of the filth and trash out there? This series is a classic, and I mean a classic...like a western, love story, drama, mystery, and horror (but hardly that) all wrapped into one, and I can't imagine anything being censored. I mean, there's a lot of really bad movies out there that are just full of filth.
like The Final Fantasy type....like Corpse Bride .......that way you can make them look how u want and just cast voices....then if u make five - seven movies dont have to worry about actors quitting and recasting or jake getting too old( Harry Potter)
Roland Deschain- Viggo Mortansen
Eddie Dean- Jared Leto
Jake Chambers- remember Jerry Mcguire? Jonathan Lipnicki perfect
Sussanah/Odetta/Detta- Thandie Newton/ From Crash
Flagg-Jamey Sheridan
Jake = Freddie Highmore (Finding Neverland, Willi Wonka) longer hair and he's the perfect age and has an amazing depth in his acting.
Andy Serkis as the voice of Oy
John Farson - Jack Nickolson
Walter - Michael Wincott
Eddie Dean - Corey Feldman
Henry Dean - Ed Norton
Roland - Gary Oldman
Cort- Frank Oz
Odetta/Detta - Naomie Harris
Calvin Tower - Johnny Depp
Enrico Balazar- Robert De Niro
russel crowe
ethan hawke
eddie dean - robert downey jr.
- edward norton
stephen deschain - clint eastwood
man in black - denis leary
micheal keaton
keifer sutherland
christopher walken
odetta/detta/susannah
- halle berry
susannah delgado
- scarlett johansson
~Calvin T
Here's my cast:
Susan Delgado - Hayden Panettiere
Roland – some hot young guy
Sheemie – Jamie Bell (he’s about 17 now).
Roland's got to be hot, and he's got to be smart. Not Darth Vador who acts like he's dead. Someone who can act. Also, if there are any questions, for Jake Chambers --- the one kid from the Spider Chronicles. He's perfect.
ive read the intro and a few chapters.it's great so far.am not familiar with stephen king works well as far as novel at any rate. movies based on his work ive seen. The characters are exciting so i hope that wat ever the movie tries to illustrate would vbe not only top notch but do justice to the feel of the characters,....
i read the glossary because i don't know the terms i come accross in the novel so far, by the way am reading the last part V11 is it not.
I also think Hayden Panawhatever (I'm sorry, I don't know how to spell her name, for good reason) would be a terrible choice for Susan. I just have so much respect for this series and for King's dedication to it to pawn these beautiful characters off on to ANY pop culture figure, really.
Maybe they SHOULD just have all unknowns. This would be a terrible movie if they animated it, like Beowulf (I was sooooo disappointed) but obviously they'll have to do some. I mean, I can't help but liken this to Lord of the Rings for obvious reasons (King did it, I can do it) and they did a fantastic job with that. Of course, I've said that before.
Seriously.
Eddie - early to mid-twenties
Susannah - close to thirty or over
KEEP THESE AGES IN MIND.
Viggo is too closely associated with Aragorn, IMO. Get somebody else. I know everybody's been hoping for something as well-done as LOTR, but Viggo was plucked from near obscurity, at that point.
Doing the same would be a smarter choice, than drafting him again.
Christian Bale is too young.
Ed Norton is too old.
I reiterate my choices:
Roland = Daniel Day Lewis (and Hugh Laurie is growing on me)
Eddie = Ryan Gosling or Jason Gordon Levitt
Susannah = Sanaa Lathan or Tracie Thoms
roland:brad pitt Christian Bale
gerad butler for roland
Hale Berry - Susan
Shia LaBeouf - Eddie
Josh Hutcherson - Jake
Johnny Depp - Walter
Christopher Lee - The Red King
A bald
and
B if he grew out his hair itd look weird
roland-hugh jackman, Daniel Craig
eddie- has to be Ewan McGregor
suze- gina torres, halie berry
pere- nathan fillion
cuthbert- alexis denisof
alan- David Boreanaz
man in black/walter- james marsters
susan (D)-amy acker
Roland needs to look weathered, naturally beaten, tough as nails, and he needs to above all be dry. He needs to have a personality that is likeable onscreen, yet someone you would stay away from in a dark alley. He needs to look like somone who has beaten the years of time simply because he has to.
My only other nomination other then Jason is Russel Crowe.
I still feel Jason's ability to fill quieter main roles which also have that powerful gritty undertone is what Roland would benefit from. You also might not want to dilute the cast with pin up boys as main roles, imo Eddie and Jake need to fill those roles...and of course younger Roland.
Roland needs to capture the audience by having them feel sorry for his struggle, cheer with his determination and have that fuzzy feeling inside seeing him kick the **** out of the bad guys :)
Well of course the casting Director will pick who they want and Abrams my not much of a say, as is the case sometimes in the Biz.
In any event to imagine who might make the cut.
I also like Kimberly Elise from Set it off and Close to home for Susanna, she could do the whole Spectrum of Charaters.
well thanks and its been fun reading these posts
jada pinkett smith would be much much better for the role. no offense
to mrs. berry but shes not that great of an actress. roland cannot be played by clint eastwood. hes too old. period. a couple of you guys
have said ryan reynolds for eddie. hell no. and as for dicaprio, i think he is a great actor (not counting titanic), but he doesnt fit the role of eddie very well either.
i did see someone mention that they would like to have eastwood play as stephen deschain. i couldnt agree more. i actually said eastwood for cort but was laughed at for that suggestion. oh well i stand by it.
anyway ive said and heard far too much about the casting of the movie. does anyone know when they will start the making of the movies?
Im not holding my breath tho, theres probably a 70% chance they will get dumped, ruined, turned into cartoon, moved to a TV show, go straight to DVD.
I really dont think Abrams is up to the task, cloverfield was the most UN-epic monster movie I have ever seen.
LOST was a great concept, but also very very small scale. This is an undertaking which involves a huge amount of lore, he cant rely on playing with subject matter the audience doesnt already know about. Im scared for him...but best of luck, this could potentially be the best epic ever produced.
Roland can't be played by Clint Eastwood. He's referred to in the books as resembling him. If he was identical, but from a different world, his name would still be Clint Eastwood. Besides, if the stories getting the disservice of a television miniseries, nobody near that stature would take it.
The Stephen King TV minies are notoriously bland with bad acting and bad directing with non descript cinimatography. IT, The Stand, TV version of The Shining to name a few. Shaweshank Redemption, Green Mile, Apt Pupil, Dreamcatcher, The Mist (just saw) were GREAT! Why sell the rights to someone who makes TV series regardless of how much you like there television? They're going to make a mini series, and given the track record of S.K. to T.V. the odds are against your life's work being any good on "film".
Bottom line: It just pisses me off that the King would not take such things into consideration when it conserns something that's supposedly been a pinnacle for him. Sure, it'll be condensed a little to fit into a few films, but the meat of the story will be there and it will be great.
Get a FULL black woman to play Odetta/Detta/Susannah.
Get a FULL black woman to play Odetta/Detta/Susannah.
Do you really want the mis-casting f-upedness that was Halle Berry playing the statuesque, POWERFUL, weather goddess that was Storm, just because she's the only the black actress you know or considered "sexy" (there are plenty others that fit that criteria)???
I swear to God, the next person who mentions someone half-black playing Detta, Odetta, Susannah, gets a cyber-bitch-slap and
and equally ridiculous suggestion, like ...
Thandie Newton playing Rowland's mom. Why not? Shes half-white.
I say again, CYBERBITCHSLAP!!
Tracie Thoms
Sanaa Lathan
Naomie Harris
Kerry Washington
Kimberly Elise
Take your pick. They're all better actresses and fit the role better than 20 half-black ingenues.
Why does she have to be 130% black...you dont get fired up about the fact a semi bald english man has been put forward to play the gritty westerner that is Roland.
People are not commonly cast for roles simply because they look 100% like the person they are filling the role of. Look at Harry Potter, thats one time its been done and...my...gosh.... They do want them to be recognisable to the character in the book, but more so they want the personality to be evident.
I understand the reason why people want someone who fits the description of the characters appearance 100%; thats why books are more rewarding then cinema. They give us a semi-ownership of the appearance of the characters in our own heads.
I definetly think the casting should involve more then simply finding lookalikes. Unless they animate everything...but lets not go there
roland: Christian Bale
Not only did you miss the point, but you have HORRID taste, if you think Halle Berry did a good job as Storm.
The issue is that of Hollywood and most of the mainstream public (evidently including yourself), ONLY seeing one representative of "black woman" in Hollywood.
So, your comparison would be more apt if say...Christian Bale , or better still, a well-known biracial actor played EVERY available role that called for a "white male".
That is my rant. She's not the only black actress and she is far from the most capable. And for this role? She fits as well as a round peg in a square hole.
EVERY TIME this actress tries to play tough, she fails miserably. I admire Halle Berry, I think she is good, in the right role...Though, she hasn't been as good as when she was still climbing to the top, in Boomerang and Jungle Fever.
Now, at 41 she's too old for this.
Get someone fresh, who can play tough and yes, because white Hollywood, has pissed me off in this respect, someone who is ACTUALLY BLACK.
130% isn't mathmatically possible, but Black Americans aren't even 95% black in most cases. Asking for a realistic representative is not asking for the world.
Again, if you think it's a silly request, then you should have no problem, casting Giancarlo Esposito as Roland (imdb him).
lol, indeed.
At risk of getting my helmet chopped off (if it does ya), what do you think of an actress like Jada Pinkett Smith? she could play that tough role after watching her in the Matrix movies.
v.v.s.muzzman - Dark Tower Fan (many other functions)
To clear it up Storm was one of Halle Berry's worst roles, period. I can see how you misread what I said but my comment was;
"halle berry didnt just fill the role of storm…she has been in quite a number of powerful female roles"
I didnt include storm as a powerful role, it was weak.
Gothika
Swordfish
Die Another Day
Their Eyes Were Watching Good
These roles are what I was referring to.
Also saying 130% was sarcasm lol...of course its not possible. I see your ideas for casting are Sanaa Lathan or Tracie Thoms, tracie thoms is fine, but I dont see either of them being 'more' appropriate then Halle Berry. Each to their own tho :)
Jada Pinkett Smith is a great nomination, she is beautiful and powerful. I would actually prefer her to Halle Berry, I change my nomination.
If "stars" are used, they should have the ability to disappear into the character. (Think Gary Oldman as the antagonist in "Hannibal". I didn't know until the credits rolled that it was him.)
HBO series. 19 episodes. Tell Gan thankya.
Does anyone else notice that the Time Warner Cable symbol looks a lot like the symbol or sign of the Crimson King, the eye symbol. Anyway thought it was a little creepy. Khef
Still in Love with Ed Norton as Eddie Dean and secondly Christian Bale.
The man in Black, aka Walter aka The Pusher still in love with Michael Wincott
I do respect and see where some of you are coming from with your choices too.
Still in love with J.J. Abrams at the helm also.
pleasant days and pleasant nights to ya
say thankee and praise The Man Jesus Ka-babies
revival for him and I'm not sure if he still has it, but he
certainly has the look and persona. More of an antagonist
in Silver Bullet, People Under the Stairs, and Heartbreak Ridge.
He may not be youthful enough anymore but he certainly has
that Eastwood mold. Anyhow, whoever the role goes to CANNOT
BE A SHORTSTACK, like some of the others mentioned.
6'2 or taller. Long, Tall, and Ugly remember?
Eddie: Collin Farrell or Justin Chatwin
Susannah: Thandie Newton
Man in Black: Gary Oldman
Steven Deschain: Sam Elliot
Cort: Micheal Chiklis..........
I think this should be the cast. I just hope the movie can come somwhere close to the power of the books. It will not be an easy task!!!
Wizard and Glass should be released last. Perhaps years after The Dark Tower is released.
And I know it won't happen... But I want another flashback book!!! Cutherbert was one of my favorite characters and I never got enough of him! Part of me wanted him to show up in book 7.
Have you guys checked out the graphic novels? I was kinda disapointed to see that the first one was a Wizard and Glass recap...but oh well, it's still awesome! Later !!
Of course I always thought of Eastwood as Roland, we need a time machine to go yank him of off the set of the good the bad , the ugly... However, Thomas Haden Church, I'm sorry, but isn't good as Roland...he's far too comical in nature... Might as well have Ben Still as Eddie, Owen Wilson as Jake, and Will Farrel in drag as Susannah..lol..
Roland: Viggo Mortensen (History of Violence is enough to convince me)
Eddie: Casey Affleck (Perfect look plus attitude and accent e.g. Gone Baby Gone)
Susannah: Angela Basset (she was supposed to be older than Eddie, but might be too old)
Jake: Need an unknown kid...jake is too important to hand it to someone not perfect
Henry Dean: Mark Wahlberg
Jack Mort: Robert Picardo (he has to look like an everyman type)
The Man in Black: Crispin Glover
pretty much all the casting you would have to do for the first book/movie
just a thought. He's relatively well-known, yet not super-famous; he's used to playing those crazy gun-toting roles, yet he doesn't have an ego that could put a check on the film production.
Plus...
I DARE someone to tell me that Kyle Reese can't be a good Roland!
The guy who played Skinny the saloonkeeper in Unforgiven as Sheb. Camryn Mannheim as Sylvia Pittston. Shelley Long as Allie. Gary Oldman as Nort.
The Long Road Home comic has some material not explicitly covered in W&G...very interesting, all-meat, no-bones story. Every picture worth a thousand words, and good foreshadowing to boot.
Long days, pleasant nights, ka-babbies
I read the books and wasn't Susan Delgado Black or mixed race?? I don't think either of the above people would be good suggestion to play her.
Anyway It would be great to see it as a movie :-)
Edward Norton as Eddie Dean and Halle Berry
would be fantastic as Susannah - she's as
made for the part as Clint Eastwood is for Roland.
We've seen the rugged twisted energy she can
produce in Gothika and CatWoman. I've always
wanted her to take that darker side further.
I was watching Escape for Alcatraz the other day
and I remember thinking then - Clint is basically
Roland. But that film was made back in the 70's.
Have we missed our chance with him?
Also, think Oliver Platt would be a good Calvin Tower.
Always seen Peter Stormare under the hood of the
Man in Black.
And John Hurt as Pere Callahan!
As for Mr. R.F...always believed Gary Oldman
would do it justice. Think he should have been there
for The Stand.
Roland is a mystery though. I completely disagree
with Clive Owen for the part. All his performances I've
seen have been sort of...emotionaly flat. Mortenson would
be a better choice, he has more intensity.
I think an unknown is a wise way to go.
We should at least try and look for him. There may be
the perfect Actor out there.
Clint Eastwood is too old for Roland, even if he was the inspiration for him. Mayhaps Miley Cyrus won't have the innocence much longer, either,say sorry.
I nominate Carol Kane for Rhea of the Coos. (She can vanish into a role)
Carole Burnett as Aunt Cordelia. Maybe John Glover as Eldred Jonas (may not be physically big enough.)
Please don't take this awesome story and hack it to bits just to make it fit into neat little 2 hour stretches...and not every episode needs to be an hour, either.
I hope sai King holds on to this project tightly.
The whole story might be better told if Episodes were broken up by chapters from the book and sometime two or three chapters will make up an episode. I'd aim for as many season's as it would take to tell the whole story and it should be on HBO or SHOWTIME and come out on dvd's too. Wizard should be a movie.
Oh, it would be such a pleasure to see this film (or maybe up to 7) on the big screen. I hope, that it will come true, as soon as possible.
I also think, that the cast ist very, very important for that film.
Here are some thoughts:
Roland: OK, Clint Eastwood would be ideal, but I think that also Ed Harris could fit.
Eddie: For me it's Edward Norton or John Cusack
Susanne: Here I think are many matches. Maybe Tyra Banks ;-) But I think we need a woman with a more female body than Hale Berry, I mean more breast, a little more fat...
Jake: Cameron Bright (Running Scared)
Father Callahan: Kris Kristofferson
or put forward your own ideas maybe, but no, that might be too constructive.
You're trying to be funny too, aren't you, like the person who picked Miley Cyrus to be Susan?
eddie-john leguizamo(sp.)
sussanah-not sure
jake- an unknown
fthr callahan-michael moriarty
man in black-viggo mortensen
You all keep the casting Ideas coming I find them humorous and yeah I agree with kodiakjack19 , don't insult our intelligence with obvious bad matches, not so obvious is fine, unless your just trying to be funny.
Arnold Govenator could make a good LORD PERTH. "I'll Be Back, he said it again,"(~Green Day)
Ed Harris - might make a good Pere Callahan.
p.s. I'l try to stay away from ?fantasy football? what??
p.p.s. If this series is done right in motion picture form, it should make L.O.T.R. and especially H.P. look like rainbow bright. If not who knows?
Marvel Films would be wise to get involved with this as well now that Iron Man has allowed them to make their mark, and while they still hold the graphic novel rights for the Dark Tower.
I'd rather a full CG epic than to have Keanu Reeves trying to interact with a CG Oy and a "10-year old" Jake who's sprouting chin whiskers by the 5th film.
You guys are naming people too old for Eddie. I'm thinking along the lines of Elijah Wood or Haley Joel Osment.
And The Man in Black should be Val Kilmer. Watch Comanche Moon and you'll see what I mean.
Yeah, Jack's dad right, just a little off but closer. Roland should be 50-60 in age, yes? Sawyer from Lost is actually more like Eddie.
Can anyone tell me where in The Drawing of The Three does it say how old Eddie Dean is?, I always saw him as about thirty.
Josh Brolin was really good in No Country for Old Men. I can't wait to see him play George W. Bush in Oliver Stones-" W ". Josh Brolin as Roland, I can see what you mean, but still a little off.
Check out The Dark Tower Compendium website, the Nitpicker's Guide. Eddie is stated as being 21, but later in the series, he, Eddie, says he was born in 1964. Since he was drawn in 1987, that would make him 23.
Also for the Tower junkie are the concordances written by Robin Furth, and approved by sai King himself. These are not for the novice, though, because it is full of spoilers. Read the books first , in order.
Long days, pleasant nights, Tower folken
anyone ever considered Gary Oldman to play Roland?
Definitely cast an unknown as Roland, though, unless this yet to be named actor can disappear into the role.
Andy Serkin should do the required CGI parts ( Andy The Messenger Robot; Oy ; Shardik ) and perhaps Billy West providing the voice of Oy. Someone mentioned Dennis Hopper as the voice of Blaine the Mono.
Who should be the narrator, if they decide to have one?
That said the reason I'm on is cause when I first read about project I was BEYOND excited,NO ONE loves this book more than me,and besides MY ideas ARE the best because I have the best taste.YES I said Keanu Reeves should be Roland,he's cool,hard attitude,and personally no one else would be better for the job
so F#*& u Rock and anyone who disagrees.But I agree Hugh
Jackmon is my baby too and would probably be okay too.We'll see.
This internet stuff is really serious business lol. Just keep in mind no one is intimidated by your 13 year old rantings.
ever mind you have.Nuff Said to that,anyways.JESSICA you have some good ideas and yes your right there is alot to cover for the movie than just actors.To CAMERON: Did you say Haley Joel Osmond or Eligah Wood as Eddie Dean? I'm sorry but those are
some horrible ideas I dont what you were thinkin about when if you read the book.To anyone that says this movie should be a mini series or a show need honestly need to shut up and keep those DUMB a*# opinions to yourself.And PLEASE will everyone STOP it with the Clint Eastwood S^#t.Yea he's a great acter and everthing but he's like 96,he WON"T be Roland.SO LET IT GO!
and F$#* anybody else if they dont agree,and
that includes you.Kiss my fine ass N$**&.By that 13 year old
S*&# was funny,I'm 21,but I would'nt be suprised if 13 year
old young meat was just what you were searching for on this
internet.Ain't that right Micheal? See you on "To Catch A
Predator".Mike.
Grats :)
I think we are looking at a mini-series instead of a movie or string of movies.
By Ebony -
To anyone that says this movie should be a mini series or a show need honestly need to shut up and keep those DUMB a*# opinions to yourself.
By Ebony again -
JESSICA you have some good ideas and yes your right there is alot to cover for the movie than just actors.
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Do either of you know how to read? Or are you the same person posting under different names lol...
Even more suprised you managed to read the books now.
Keep it coming Ebony, very amusing.
mine.Have YOU read these books,too much time on your hands
and not enough pu^#y,or are you really into 13 yr old girls.
I'd like to be amused too.Speak.
"Predater". Another thing. GET MY WORDS RIGHT "I" said SOME
of her ideas and meant everything else that I said.Get it right
pervert.
of name is that?You a real funny dude,that tells me you laugh
alot, and let me tell you something if I was a man,you'd be
the 1st one I'd call suck it.The giggles would probaly feel good
but don't worry I can used a strap on so you'd know how to do
it to real man.By the way Keanu is my baby,maybe watching
one or two of his movies would teach you and mike on how
to REAL men.
real,right now im bored,so im gonna do what i do best.Speak
my mind,and get at muthaf***ers who get at me for as long as
im on this computer.which wont be too long,unlike some of you "dungeons and dragons" nerds.I got a life,but hey,I cant
help it,THE DARK TOWER,is MY sh*t.(by the way I don't have
anything against nerds,just nerds,perverts,and JohnnyD*ckBall
suckers who get on,MY,nerves)Peace Be.
Good to see some passion.
If only the creators of this so called movie/series had the same passion, we might be getting somewhere.
Something to look forward to anyway...
PS - what is dungeons and Dragons?
I remember space Invaders from the 80's.. and the video game as well
I quoted you perfectly fine, I copied and pasted...you can do that yourself by highlighting the text then pressing the CTRL button and the C button at the same time.
Got that?
Good..
Now click where you want the text to go and press CTRL and P at the same time, magic!
Thats how I quoted you, which is why it has your eye watering capital letters in there.
Learn to read like an adult, learn to speak like an adult, and more importantly learn to BE an adult.
I reckon Ebony would play an awesome Cort.
in response to your question about what 'dungeons and dragons' is, it's an S&M bar on the lower east side where Ebony frequently earns money by utilzing her strapon in a safe environment for herself and her high profile customers, including uncritically acclaimed, anti-award winning actor, Keanu Reeves, star of Sweet November and Johnny Neumonic. Mr. Reeves also responds favorably to the name 'Baby" and is supposedly the absolute S#@* in the sack. On a side note, K. Reeves and E.N.Harris plan to marry in August at the 99cent store on 57th st. Reception to immediately follow at the Dixie Pig.
All I can say is the moderators are going to have a field day when they finally check this page :p
or in your zit covered face if I ever saw your ugly mug.I just
know you dont have a life cause your giving ME directions on how
to type.Dude,seriously get a LIFE.Your tryin to come off all mature,intelligent,with a long stick up your tight ass,when the real question is WHY are you on here when you dont even talk about the issue,Dark Tower,remember?I really think you cant get enough of me,why else would you spend so much of your personal
time talking with me?Got enough of the young girls huh?!Ready
for an actual WOMAN who speaks her mind.Intimidated?Dont be.
I love you oh Ebony...oh baby, oh baby.
I’m not so much intimidated as I am intrigued at your ability to shoot yourself in the foot with your blatant lack of guile.
Don’t let me stop you embarrassing yourself though, please continue.
so SWEETLY give me yours.1st I can really give a damn what
anyone says about me personally,cause unlike most woman,
I, simply put, LOVE who the fu*k I am,AND,the way I speak.Matter fact I love just about every fu**in thing about me,AND my life.And since Im not gonna put ALL my life on the
net let me just say I grew up hard,I work hard,I speak honest,
I live honest,and I love deeply.2 I dont ask no one for nothin, I
got mine and gettin my bachelers.3 I cause drama when im bored
aint you lucky.4 Im an honest,ADULT b***h,and I love it.Sucka!
As for this hilarious conversation which has provided me with great amusement today; I will have to say thank you for the laughs and leave you to it.
Have an orange juice or something, should help with the anger problem.
If I want to read or hear the foul, immature, and poorly spoken English language I could go to the 7-Eleven in the next town. I hope you do not speak to the customers the way you do to us on this chat line. This is not a debate this is a channell where those of us can tell each other our opinions for fun. yes I do disagree with others but as a mature adult I do not go and attack them. Anybody please keep the conversations clean, mature, and polite. Exept for this putting everybody down thing latley I have been enjoying hearing others opinions. Thank You
I wasnt talkin to you,just to 2 disrespectful, losers.So I was that
way right back to them.Dont worry about my customers and frankly F**k your opinions and you.Ms.7-Eleven.As long as this
country has free speech,I'll speak the way I want to.I respect
everyone who respects me and it should be likewise for anyone.
As for foul, your uptight attitude really stinks,turn your nose
more toward the earth,youll smell the flowers and be a little less snotty.
sometimes I feel as if we're not communicating as well as we could be, so I'm going to write this in language that's easier for you to understand...
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I hope this clears some things up for you and we can become better friends.
mental dude get help before you shoot up your office or some
thing,remember all work and no play...well you saw the movie.
No but Im not stupid I dont mess with crazy people,for real take those meds.
How are old are you? YOU are the one who sounds disrespectful. I am only sounding like a mature adult not snotty. For the others that are replying to Ebony in her form of talk you are doing no better than she is.
8:35,I really wasnt paying you any mind,but wow,im really
convinced that not only are you a mental maniac,but your also a
freak.You really know your stuff huh,I don't know whether to be
flattered by your time and effort just to get my attention,I mean
you even singled out Keanu,especially,was that jealousy?
Or was that just a lame,desperate attempt at dissing me?
Then again you do give a creepy vibe,and that exactly what weirdos do to me.I dont know which way to go but im creeped
out,you seem to have issues, Im not f**kin with you.
Roland: Keanu Reeves
Eddie: Hayden Christiansen
Susannah: Wanda Sykes
Jake: May Kate & Ashley Olsen
Oy: Beethoven
Walter: Steven Segal
Cort: Jackie Chan
Susan Delgado: Hillary Duff
Rhea of the Coos: Kathy Griffin
Father Callahan: Tom Bosley
Blaine: Aflac duck
Crimson King: Carrot Top
Sheemie: Ebony Nicole Harris
right on johnnypinball !
the first time I ever chatted online with anyone,much less get
into arguements WITH anyone online.And I have to admit it was
fun,so I kept doin it.I got off track and carried away and I apologize.I am usually very opinonated,and honest by nature but as I look back at some of the things I said, Im kind of suprised and feel guilty for talking to some of the people the way I did.I took the focus off the issue and offended people and I see that.For anyone who comes on this site and reads those past statements that I made,I am truly,truly sorry.
I know what happened... someone had a few sneaky ones last night and woke up this morning seeing what happened!!!
haha, happens to all of us ;)
Go the Sea Eagles
excuses but I was bored,upset, and really had nothing better to
do so I took that out on a few people, BADLY.I used to talk that
way growing up and hangin out with friends but I dont anymore just when Im really mad.Yes I do love being me but I can be honest and not say hurtful things,and Im truly sorry cause I didnt do that.I just want everyone to know that.Attention should be on my favorite writer in the world,Stephen King,and the best book ever to me,DT, not me.Thank You,and God Bless YOU ALL.Lata.
said might.Lata.
apology accepted Mia Odetta Holmes Susannah Detta Walker.
Apology also accepted.
Keep up the passion, though. Twenty -plus years on the Path of the Beam can do that to a person, so it can.
And, let's all say this together now: The movie in our minds is WAY better than can ever be filmed...Another person's vision is just that- another point of view. The one who got it right is sai King.
Khef, Ka and Ka-tet
.........That's right! I didn't think so!
By the way, if Nick Cage played Roland i'd kill myself!
Susannah like I said before.And Im sorry but to anyone who said it,Halle berry would be the WEAKEST Susannah,I mean yea shes pretty,but really I dont think she can act for sh*t,honestly.Shannon Doherty would be a good Mia with good makeup.Better if she was younger.NIGHTSHADE,thank you for agreeing,thats why
Keanu would be perfect,like you said, Roland in the book everyone knows,he's old but LOOKS young,at least thats how I always how Ive pictured him.Plus he has a hard intimidating, attitude.With alittle aging makeup (lines and wrinkles)as the story (movie) progresses,he would make the Perfect Gunslinger,Period!(Stephen please read THIS)
and Johnny Depp are AMAZING acters and fine as Hell,but Keanu is perfect for the role,and... well Johnny is just too short,plus I really dont think he'd be a good Roland at all.Sorry Babe,but I still love you.
Who made Spiderman again? just stay the hell away from that filmmaker please. And as much as I respect Mr. King as a writter, it would be nice for the french speaking fans if for once the french translation would be done by anyone who doesnt suck shit through a straw. Sorry Stevie but whoever you hired for translating your books in french is definitely, absolutely, indeniably among the worst, I mean one of your books title has been translated to dance macabre before you made that book then they had to translate dance macabre to something else in french, I rest my case. Im from Quebec and I know you will argue that people in France should be the one to know french right? right? WRONG!!!! they have so many weird ass expressions and they try to use too many english word pronouced a la francaise that they dont even speak french anymore. The worse part is how they massacre every english word they use by trying to make them sound french( kinda like how english people destroy the french words they steal lol) In Quebec we steal english words but we keep the pronouciation intact i.e: in Quebec we use the word toater but say it toaster in france it becomes tostere.add to that the fact they use expressions that are totally made up , words that dont exist and nobody outside France can understand wtf they are talking about, so please hire someone to make an INTERNATIONNAL french version, you ll get a lot more credit that way. By the way, I am perfectly bilingual if anyone needs to hire someone to translate their books...... Oh and yes Mr King should definitely be the one playing himself , what a mistake it would be to have someone else take that role , I mean Mr. King would be so good for the part. I mean , please , if they take someone else for that part , Ill make sure to boycott that filming company for the rest of my life.
Mia lives inside Susannah Dean like a separate personality, and pregnant with Roland's baby. She has blue eyes, and is very powerful, and willing to do anything to stop anyone from harming her unborn baby. She is a demon that is over 2000 years old, before becoming pregnant she was a beast that sexually devoured men, she has risked mortality in becoming Mia for a chance at having Roland's baby. Who ever plays Susannah Dean will also be Mia, at least on the outside.
Ka-mai, the more I hear you, the more I like Gary Oldman as Roland.
Christian Bale and Ed Norton as the Dean brothers.
this page talkin with you people,and what would make HIM so good to play Roland?Who is he?let me know!And NIGHTSHADE,
listen you really got something I said twisted,everything you
said I TOTALLY agree with when it comes to Johnny Depp,
did I not say that he's an amazing actor.Actually for your info.
Johnny IS the best actor in my opinion,AND MY FAVORITE,
he's extremely talented,intelligent,sexy(of course),and cant
nobody act like or as good as him,so what you said about him
was unnessesary cause I already know that like no other,all I
said was is the truth,he's too short,thats it.And I don't see him
as Roland,my vote is for Keanu until I see who they cast in the
movie.So dont act defensive,Johnny IS the best actor,just like Stephen King is THE best writer to me.Plus if I had ANY choice
Johnny would BE my man,and I would'nt be writing any of you,
I'd be holding him right now.So slow your role Mr. Night.
tall,and ugly.Not short,tan and sexy.That's why Keanu's perfect,
I mean he's fine,but thats why they have makeup to make him
just alittle older,worn out and unattractive?I don't know I always
saw Roland as Keanu when reading the books so I think in
Rolands own way he's sexy,I mean the maidens really seemed to like him in the books.wink wink.Anyway Johnnys no Roland,
he's incredible,but not a Roland of Gilead.Sorry everyone,
but it's the truth.He's just too short and cute,wouldnt work!
American History X
Rounders
Fight Club
Down in The Valley
The Illusionist
25th Hour
People vs. Larry Flint
Primal Fear
the new Incredible Hulk.
I see Ed Norton as either Eddie or Henry Dean
Okay Ebony we get it you are in love with Keanu, let's just leave him out of The Dark Tower, he was great as Neo let's just leave it at that. I ain't hating your suggestion, but I think it is a little off! His eyes aren't blue and he's to well known as other iconic rolls. Neo and Ted Logan top the list. The Roland I know is nothing like Keanu Reeves. To me, that's like saying Ben Affleck should play Roland. lol!
so i have been thinking long and hard about this movie.. in
some ways i am very excited but of course like many of you i am
affraid that it will be ruined like so many other King books that
have been turned into movies/ mini seires. As far as who i think
should play Roland? what about robert Patrick from the terminator/
x-files? he has the look and they eyes. And you never see him
in any thing. And for jake what about Dylan and Cole Sprouse? the
twins from the movie big daddy? im not sure how old they are now
but the last i saw they have the look. and yes Oy is a must. as
far as im concerned if that little billy bumbler is not in it, it is not
worth my time. And i know we are talking about the DT series but did you all hear that they are planning to do a mini series for the talisman sometime this summer? that had better be perfect!
doesn't have that weathered look about him like patrick. and also I
think that norton is to famous for the role.. people will be seeing
not roland. i have seen most of his films and i loved him in the
25th hour. but still he does not get my vote. but who knows, if king
has anything to do with casting you can be sure we are all way off
in the who plays who department. And further more if it doesn't
go to the big screen i am almost sure there will be no well known
actors in the production. i will say that norton would make a decent
Eddie.. he can play that age bracket.
too,the Ed Norton from Honeymooners,that is my favorite
classic comedy show.But whoever this new Norton is,or whoever
they pick as Roland,if not my beloved Keanu,than I sure hope
we can all agree they do his character justice and not cast ANY weak actor.Nomatter if he's famous or not.And Quuen B, thats
whats up,while reading the books,I ALWAYS saw Jake as one
the twins on Big Daddy,I said that before,I think their too old
now,but damn they would've been perfect,THERE SO ADORABLE!
I can't belive you said that,but his character BETTER be done
with a good young actor.I have NO doubt that this book will be
a movie,to me it's just WHEN DAMMIT!Im serious I've literally been on the edge of my seat since I read about this project,but like I said before,this movie,if done right,could very well be one
THE best book/turned movie,if not THE BEST!But it has to be
done right,everything,not just perfect cast who WILL do the
characters in the book justice,needs to be thought out to the
tiniest detail.And YES it SHOULD cost ALOT of money,as much
time,creativity,intelligence,sheer talent,years and sweat thats been put into this book by Stephen K.,over years since before I was born,this movie deserves THE best of everything.At least
enough to make Lord of the rings,as much as I suprised
myself by actually loving that movie cause it is one of the best movie's I've seen so far,look like Napolean Dynamite.Laugh now
but Im dead serious thats what IM hoping for.Im just gonna stay
positive,and optimistic about this cause this could quite possibly
with all the right tools,be the BEST movie of our time.Thats my
hope,and Im stickin to it.
My god how old are you people, you thought we were talking about Art Carney- Ed Norton from the Honeymooners, he died in 2003. LOL
At least you didn't think we were talking about Ken Norton the boxer.
Watch; Down in the Valley, American History X, Fight Club, 25th Hour, and Rounders somewhere in there is the perfect Eddie Dean.
I have to say I am looking very forward to this. My farther ( the
great man who gave me my first king book) thinks it will be a
disaster, but that is not stopping him from asking me what else
I have heard about the project lol. Speaking of which has anyone
at all heard anything else? the last updates I read were from last
year. You can't rush perfection is what they say but i am very
anxious. anyway talk to you all later
Okay, sorry. Back to the path.
He'd be a great Eddie when I think of it...at least at first, but, as kodiak mentionned, he'd have to put on some weight for the 4th or 5th book parts as he'd be off the drugs.
Ebony, I do agree that Keanu does have the look and physique for Roland, and I do enjoy watching him in his movies. he's a decent actor, but as for the role of Roland, he doesn't have enough presence on film. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and his movies, but he just isn't intimidating enough or powerful enough on screen to fulfill the expectations of Roland. Although, if they do use a lot of big names, I do hope he'd be in the movie somewhere (could be a great man in black for example)
Suzanna/Detta/Odetta....she may have to be cast from an unknown. Someone who'd be new to the big screen or at least isn't popular on it as of yet. there's just too much depth in her character for any of the current actresses to fully portray. Whomever is cast as her will have a very bright future in film though due to the complexity of the character.
Man in Black...personally, I'd LOVE to see Jamey Sheridan to portray him. I think he did a great job as Flagg in the Stand and is an underrated actor.
regardless of who is cast in which roll, we all have our own imaginations as to who should play which roll, just like any other book-to-movie that we may be fans of. We must retain our faith in Sai King and his ka-tet to bring us the movie that they feel represents the series of novels to its best.
until the movie is out...let's just hope!!
Long days and pleasant nights.
with minimal graphicness. it is still very worth seeing. i also wanted
to comment on a topic that was earlier discussed, whats your fav
book from the opus? i would have to say that i love the last book,
even though some didn't like the ending i felt as though it was
very full circle of king. Ka is like a wheel. the end is the begining.
Im not ashamed to say that it even made me cry a little, and if
you knew me you would know that is quite an accomplishment.
Some of the Battle at the Dixie Pig reminds me of the Black house
(the follow up book for the talisman, another must read) You know
i told myself this morining that i would not post on the site today
because nothing i post will make the movie happen sooner, but
I cant help it lol. it is nice to be able to talk to other people out
there who love king as much as i do
you should really see it. i wanted to go back to something that we
were talking about very early on in these posts, and that is what
is your fav. book? i would have to say that i really love the
last book. I know alot of people felt it was a let down but i love
the way it came full circle. after all ka is a wheel. as soon as i read
the last book it made me want to start the series all over again.
The battle at the dixie pig reminded me of the black house (that
is the follow up to the talisman, both are a must read) lol you
know i told my self that i wouldnt post today since nothing i post
will make the movie happen sooner but it is just so nice to talk
to alot of other people that love king as much as i do
he'd make a good Eddie.I really Eddie should be played by the
cute dude on that show Prison Break,the main character.I don't know why,I just always saw him as Eddie when I read the books.Maybe its just that hes really cute.Does anyone else think that Suzanna should be played by Gabrielle Union?Why she be played by any talentless unknown,when you have an incredible
strong,black woman right there to play her.Halle and Jada are too
skinny for my opinion.Or how about Kimberly Elise,the main
character in "Diary of a Mad Black Woman".Come on admit it
yall know I have good ideas on this movie,I wish I could talk to King and the producers directly,oh well,and I know yall gettin
tired of this but I will stick by Keanu for Roland until I see him
in the movie.Plus he doesnt have to have blue eyes,I know Roland
was supposed to have some really beautiful blue,but I don't know
ANY acter with pretty eyes like that in Hollywood,the way King
made it seem,AND can play Rolands part.Thats what REALISTIC
colored contacts are for Duh,by the way I think it's insulting to
say he should play the man in black,you just put that in to bug me
didnt you Menmon?
just saying.
show dont sip ya juice while typing, or writing,Ha!
I also saw last night an episode of LOST with Jeff Fahey, he was great in it. I haven't seen that guy in anything for a while. Maybe he would make a good Roland as someone mentioned a while ago. He's definitely a cool dude, and I loved his crazy Stephen King Lawnmower Man roll. He has Roland's eyes and is at the right age for the roll, 55 years old.
Yeah that curb scene I close my eyes every time, it is crazy, but lends well to the craziness of the character and the story.
see him in this movie. and yes Suzanna MUSt be played by a
strong black woman. there is no doubt about that. gabbie is a
decent choice i think. i tend to lean toward Sanaa but i am a huge
fan so my opinion doesnt count there. i looked up Jeff Fahey and
you are right he does look the part. i have never seen him in
action i am sad to say but in the looks department he has my
vote. since you keep urging me to see rounders i am going
straight out to blockbuster tonight and renting it.. i will give you
my opinion on it tomorrow.. good night all
I wanna point out anyway that I do respect your point of view ebony in fact you are one of the rare ones worth reading on here along with a few others. I do not mean in no way that people are stupid or anything but simply hypnotised by myth special effects and other hypes that misleed em to believe that good looks is in any way related to talent. Im sorry if my refferences to crack insulted anyone lol but I do believe some of the suggestions made were eighter influence by drugs or lack of film making knowledge. anyway I meant it in a humorous way and I didnt mean any offence. did i read something about leo di caprio???? omg and you guys wonder why i refer to crack????? please lol i didnt even pay attention i just saw the name while strolling down but please if anyone suggested leo please see a shrink. I do not believe stephen is the best writter tho ebony I respect him and believe the dark tower the greatest stories but I am also a fan of other writters and to be honest the DT serie is the only thing i care about from King. I like David Eddings belgariads, I just love the Garrett files from Glen Cook , I think that guy might just be my favorite character in the world please if you dont know Garrett get to know him , I love Nightfall and Colbey from Mickey Zucker Reichart and of course I love the great Skeeve from Robert Lynn Asprin, to name only a few . You may think big thick books with complicated stories are the best but I think the garrett files and the myth series are among the best.Anyway I really have to finish here for now , but Ill be back soon , take care all.
p.s. Seriously Eb, if you come to Chicago, we'll rent The Matrix trilogy and I'll throw you around a bit. Doggystyle, so we can both watch Neo kickin' ass
Speaking of us though, we know how could the acting should be. Most of the people who see this movie will have never picked up one of these books. It is a sad point, but if you want to see a show with 95% acting, you really need to go to broadway. The best actors are there already. There have been only a few actors over the years that have the ability to disappear into a character like Johnny Depp. Al Pacino is one, Marlon Brando and in my opinion, Mel Gibson. (Not recommending any of those men for this movie, especially Brando, he's dead.) I can really only see this movie cast with virtually unknowns. Throughout the series there are alot of special effects, but then again, the characters in the book are so deep, there is no choice but to find the perfect people to play them. They all had battles within themselves. Eddie with heroin, Suzannah with Detta, Mia and Odetta, Jake and Roland with insanity. The characters are the most important part of this movie, if it ever gets made.
Good to see other writers mentioned, Nightshade, say thankya. I found Skeeve and Aaahz quite by accident, and walked away smiling. Ever read any Stephen R. Donaldson?
Sai King needs to be an executive producer on this project, with at least a voice in the proceedings. HBO would make for less butchery of the story's more graphic sequences.
John Malkovich as Steven Deschain.
Terence Stamp as the voice of Blaine (maybe) or the voice of Los the Red (also maybe).
Who to narrate? Someone suggested Morgan Freeman, but I was hearing more of a Western-movie-voice, not quite , but almost Gabby Hayes. (For all you Blazing Saddles fans, Gabby Johnson as the guy who, at the town meeting, calls them all "numb gits!" in authentic Calla Bryn Sturgis gibberish.)
Khef
yes eddie dean all the way. i can't wait!! so besides the obvious
what charecters are you all excited about? I really want to see
how they do Oy.. CG or animatronics would be nice, kind of like how
they did gizmo.
The Gunslinger
In order of appearance, thought, or deed:
The man in blackâ€â€a sorceror
The Gunslingerâ€â€Roland
The donkeyâ€â€a shapechanger, turns into a mule
Brownâ€â€a border dweller
Zoltanâ€â€a crow
Papa Docâ€â€bringer of the beans
Shebâ€â€the honky tonk piano player
Nortâ€â€the weed eater
Kennerlyâ€â€the liveryman
Aliceâ€â€keeper of the honky tonk
Zacharyâ€â€a zodiac sign painter
Amy Feldonâ€â€a bar woman
Aunt Millâ€â€a bar woman who sings
Soobieâ€â€halfwit daughter of Kennerly
Castnerâ€â€dry goods store owner
Sylvia Pittstonâ€â€hoodoo woman
The Interloperâ€â€Satan, Lord of Flies and Serpents
Jonsonâ€â€sinner, fornicator, gambler, weeder
39 men, 14 women, 5 kidsâ€â€the former inhabitants of Tull
Cortâ€â€teacher of future gunslingers before the world moved on
John Chambersâ€â€Jake, the boy at the way station
Mrs. Greta Shawâ€â€Jake’s parents’ housekeeper
Aileenâ€â€a girl from the gunslinger’s past
Martenâ€â€the incomplete enchanter
Cuthbertâ€â€a dead gunslinger
Paul
Jonasâ€â€the old man
Susanâ€â€a lovely girl
Speaking Demonâ€â€way station denizen
Davidâ€â€the falcon
Gabrielleâ€â€the gunslinger’s mother
Haxâ€â€the west kitchen cook
Maggieâ€â€Hax’s helper
The good manâ€â€who makes the lion lay down with the lamb
Robesonâ€â€a treasonous guard
The Oracleâ€â€Star Slut. Whore of the Winds
Randolph
Jamie de Curry
Allenâ€â€boyhood companion of the gunslinger (Alain?)
Thomasâ€â€boyhood companion of the gunslinger
The Hanged Manâ€â€Roland
The Sailorâ€â€Jake
The Prisoner
The Lady of Shadows
The Towerâ€â€a place where all universes meet?
The Ageless Strangerâ€â€Maerlyn
Maerlynâ€â€the Ageless Stranger
The Beastâ€â€the keeper of the Tower. The originator of all glammer
Walterâ€â€the man in black
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and rolands gotta have long-or longish hair-he's been walkin in da desert for generations,no barbers there...
thats just my opinion though.
i'd like to see an unknown though nd be suprised..
If done right, it is very possible that the movies could actually be better than the books. -Not an easy task, but definitely doable.
hmm, I'll have to check that out.
thanks
Looked at the picture of Daniel Day Lewis- maybe something to it. Maybe.
SPOILERS:
Ed Norton as Henry Dean, great sage and eminent junkie- Eddie Dean may be 35 on Keystone Earth, but he isn't from there and is no more than 23-24 in the story. Might be pretty cool to see Ed Norton's head rolling across the floor, though. He'd be a great ball-busting older brother. I agree he's got the attitude for Eddie, he's just a little old.
That said, Jake needs to be young, with room to age and grow. The Jake that goes into the Dixie Pig with Pere Callahan is a whole lot harder than the Jake that met Roland at the way station in the Mohaine desert.
They need to do this project the same way as "Rosemary's Baby". When they filmed it, if the book said 'So-and-so picked up a copy of The Times', the film had so-and-so picking up a copy of The Times, and not some other title.
That is the kind of rich detail that sai King's work lends itself to.
I hope they show us wonders.
Love of the Man Jesus be on ya, ka-babbies
are probably the sweetest person I've ever met,IF I met you.And theres nothing wrong with that...talkin to you Johnny.You could learn from her,Iactually could too.Anyway I actually thought Shia Lebouf should play young Roland,not Eddie.He's a good actor,not too long out of Lizzie Mcguire either.He of Gilead,hi,um your absolutly right I understand that they do sh*t on a good book by making it into a wack movie,but Kevin its more than DOABLE that this movie will be good because I personally think Stephen K. loves his books more than we ever would and would'nt let ANYONE butcher it,or make it into a lame piece of trash.By the way,Jess you said King put a CLUE in the movie Mist about DT.MMHHMM that does sound like him too,he did that same thing in the books.Matter fact Im gonna buy that movie on demand when I get home ASAP cause I can't lie that would be cool.Damn that King,I can't take the suspense.
P.S. I was the first to mention the poster in The Mist (it was the only reason I googled a D.T. movie in the first place) check the back-logs, you'll see.
P.P.S. not to toot my own horn but... BEEP BEEP!
Blaire witch Project,Bicenntiall Man,The Hours,Spice Girls.Glitter,that britney spears movie,that american idol movie with kelly clarkson and that other dude,alone in the dark,turistas,All the Star Wars movies(sorry its true),Catwoman,Ghost,Wild Wild West,Lady in
the Water,Ghost Rider,Bring it on,Flubber,the latest Olson Twin
movie,The Wiz,Austin Powers,and Serendipity.They all SUCKED
MAJOR ASS.I forgot what I was getting at but ,WheeeeeW,I needed
to get that off off my chest.Anyway yea,whatever,lata.
add Saloms Lot to my list,I was SPECIFICALLY talkin about ONLY his Dark Tower movies,I was saying that he cares about them and
would,nt let anyone mess them up when they get made into a movie.But you O.D'ed,Ive never
seen Dreamcatcher or Hearts in Atlantis but I read the books,but Carrie,Especially Cujo,The Shining,and
well,IT was butt,but anyway,man,cut him some slack,he wrote
good books,it's not his fault some assh0les decided to Sh1t on
his work every now and then,he was being real and straightup
when he said he didnt care about the other works,he was just
trying to collect the royalties.Thats Real,and thats what I would
probably do too.But make No mistake he would Never let that
happen with D.T. I think he'd personally be on the project on all
levels at all times if he has to.I mean DT is his "baby",so
to speak.
movie,don't get it twisted.i didnt add that part.
The Stand (cuz of Randall Flagg), Hearts In Atlantis (cuz of Ted Brautigan and the "Low Men"), and The Mist (cuz of the thinny). So far so good. So when it comes to related movies, he seems to be doing alright. Other than that (and his dramas) he has no prob letting his work go to crap. BTW, Ebony, if you didn't add the part about Cujo and such, who did? But back to the matter
@ hand. Yes, the guy in The Mist is totally painting a poster of Roland (looking like a mack) for a supposedly upcoming movie. Until it is destroyed by a wayward tree branch. (hopefully not fore-shadowing the demise of the movie in general). So lets all pray that this is one of Mr. Kings rare hits, in a sea of misses. Chassit.
P.S. If I had as many zany ideas floating around in my head, that I then put down on paper, as King does/did. I to would have no problem letting them go to crap for money. It's... IT'S A LAMP MONSTER! (to quote Family Guy) But hopefully he has enough loot to not let his "baby" go to waste.
P.P.S. still got fingers crossed for number eight. (Can he really tune out the song of the rose?? Only time will tell.)
help.Talk to yall lata.
P.S.- Please stop disrespecting my girl "Jess", yea she's my girl
and WHAT!!!
When it comes to casting, what do people think about the "petition" going around for Josh Holloway to play Roland?
http://www.thetailsection.com/lost-news/josh-ho...
Josh may be on "Lost" but I still don't think that JJ Abrams will consider him for "The Dark Tower" as well. Josh is much too young. At least a few mentioned there that Jeff Fahey, also on "Lost" and one of Damon Lindelof's favorite actors, would be good for the role. Of the two, Jeff would be much better than Josh.
Have maybe around 20 episodes, each one about 2 hours long, almost a films worth, so maybe 'the gunslinger' can be 1 or 2 episodes whilst 'the drawing of the three' would be about 3 or 4.
As for cast, its a tough one, I do like either Viggo Mortensen or Hugh Jackman as ROLAND but thats open for debate.
One person im sure about is Thandie Newton for SUSSANAH. If you watch 'Crash' you can see her play the perfect DETTA, theres a scene where shes arguing with her husband after they've been racially abused by the police.
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Another one im sure about about is Edward Norton for EDDIE.
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Love to hear back from people if they agree or disagree.
I have just read the Dark Tower books twice, Salem's Lot and The Stand all in the past few months... now I need this thing to get rolling!
You are correct in calling out this. However, without dissrespect, you sound like you do not know as much as you thought. Think... maybe you are not as capable as you consider. Chances are... you have not a clue about .... well anything? be safe
tread carefully Mr. Abrams for you tread on a King's dreams
I also saw the petition for Josh Holloway as Roland, HMmmm, I would rather see an older Roland, more and more I'm liking Jeff Fahey as Roland. Sawyer or James Ford is a good character on Lost, but I could do without him in The Dark Tower. I would like to see him play a different character though, in another project.
Has anyone heard about Throttle, Written by SK and his son Joe Hill(strom King), I heard the story was just sold to some producer to be made into a movie. I haven't read any Joe Hill yet but I'm kinda curious to see how Sai King's son wordslings, has anyone here read any Joe Hill?
i have read this series many times, the complexity of the characters, and the settings, the twists and turns, utterly impossible to put on film..in my humble opinion!!!
some literature is meant to be left alone in it's true perfect form, and the dark tower is one of them.
PLEASE...IF YOU HAVE TO DO THIS...DO IT JUSTICE!!!!
I forget who mentioned Mel Gibson or Kevin Costner for Roland, but that would seem like a really bad choice. I would vomit my gizzards right in the gutter. Idk, movies just seem more exciting with new/lesser known actors.
The right guy's out there. I just hope they can find him.
Mothaf#ckers,are YOU guys on crack?!!!Nightshade can I get a
AMEN?!!I'd rather have the crypt keeper Maria Shriver be Suzannah,
if she were black that is.Sooooo lame.
so quit for his ideas,they weren't too bad.Dave Coates,I don't
know who you are but I do agree that this is EXTREMELY complexed
I mean the story as a whole is bananas,thats why I lo0ve it so
much,but...I mean come on,this has to made into a movie at
some point of time,it's just too HOT,and they will do it justice,
they better.To put it simply,SK's gonna be up the movie makers
asses like tissue makin sure this sh!t comes out right,so no
worries on that.Im startng to think if my baby Keanu cant be
Roland,than a unknown would be good to go,Not no young ass
Josh Holloway or Jeff Fahey and his wierd lookin ass,just bein true.
Lata.
I would rather have a "weird lookin ass" Roland than some previously mentioned pretty boy. Long, Tall, and Ugly...remember?!
Anyone read any Joe Hill? SK's son. Maybe I'll have to be one of the first.
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yes?
no?
be better if they had a beautiful unknown do it,or that really
hot blonde girl Sara Paxton.If you don't know her look her up,
isn't she gorgeous,what does anyone think?
Long days, pleasant nights
I do like JJ Abrams but I hope he doesn't make it all suspency and commercialized (like Lost) to attract people who haven't read it. Its most likely going to be a case of people who have read the books didn't like it that much and people who haven't read them love the movie.
Yeah Ebony, Sara Paxton is an interesting choice and could possibly work, although I'll rather stick with Hayden.
I also agree with Kid 77, and by the way Susan Delgado is described as long golden blonde hair, but I always pictured her as a brunette aswell.
Yeah I thought of Natalie Portman aswell but nah!
Rosario Dawson seems like an interesting choice aswell, I liked her in Sin City.
Here's something else I don't think anyone has mentioned. How do you guy's feel about the marketing that will be sure to come? I'm trying to think of some examples and all I can think of is all the Krusty brand merchandise from the Simpsons. Will there be a Dark Tower pregnancy test?
You know where I'm going with this, right?
Of course I know a theatrical interpretation will fall short, they most always do, but I think I will still enjoy it and have a good time watching it, more than likely.
To whoever recommended The Spiderwick Chronicles, thank you, I did rent it and did enjoy it very much, the cgi in it seemed to work very well with the story and Martin Short was great as Thimbletack. Good acting, good story, great film.
As for those mentioning the Harry Potter and LOTR films, I am afraid to say that Harry Potter (unfairly) has a bigger following than DT (think of all the huge media buzz each HP book gets) and LOTR were only 3 novels and thus easier to translate to film.
Im torn about the movie, I think it could be awesome, or it could be a total disaster.
Just depends if they go Hollywood on it or actually make it for the fans.
Now, as for actor suggestions, I think Clint Eastwood is the only actor I could ever imagine playing the part of Roland, but seeing as he is too old, my second nominee would be Viggo Mortensen, but he would have to look a lot rougher.
I could also see Christian Bale pull it off, he's a good actor and will do anything to get into character, like when he lost like 75 pounds for the Machinist.
But I think they should definetely use an unknown cast.
I can't belive some of the suggestions to play Roland, Daniel Craig?
Come on.
I think Hugh Jackman, Val Kilmer, Daniel Day-Lewis, Gabriel Byrne and Clive Owen are all good actors, but they would all fail horribly at portraying the Roland we all know.
Might as well cast Chuck Norris.
I don't even know if Viggo or Bale could pull it off, they should use unknowns.
I did think of Rutger Hauer, but he's too old.
Might be good as Jonas though, or the man in black.
I agree with Hayden Panettiere as Susan, i think she'd be good.
I think Helena Bonham Carter would be an awesome Rhea, even without makeup.
Angela Basset would rock as Susannah, but she might be too old to pull it off, although they can do amazing things with makeup and sfx these days.
As for Eddie, I've seen Edward Norton's name kicked around a lot, and when i picture a scene it could work really good, or it could be horrible.
He totally sucked in Hulk, but rocked in Fight Club and American History X, so it's hit and miss.
I could also see Michael Madsen, Ben Kingsley, Danny Trejo, Christopher Walken, Tommy Lee Jones, Clint Eastwood, Gary Oldman and Josh Hollaway playing some of the supporting cast.
No suggestions for Jake, thats a toughie.
They should just hold a nationwide casting session for all the characters, then put them through a bunch of acting and shooting training and throw them in there with Stephen King and J.J Abrams, with Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez as consultants.l
And definetely allow S.K. the last word on all decisions affecting cast, storyline and anything else that could ruin this awesome series.
P.S. I didn't even think of a damn video game either, I don't really care for video games, but as far as I'm concerned they could just forgo the movies and make frickin' games. That would be the Shiiiiizzzz!
P.P.S. this will most certainly not be a godd@mn Burger King movie!
Before these super hero movies came out everyone hated Jackman as wolverine, and Bale as bat-man, and the kid from that 70's show as venom, but all of them proved worthy. And I'm sure it will happen with this one as well.
What would you of said a couple years ago if I told you the joker would be played by the dude from 10 things i hate about you?
I'm not trying to be an ass (well, maybe a little) but you get my point.
Sorry for the buzz-kill everyone! I'm sure I'll contradict myself again very soon.
Anna Sophia Robb as Susan Delgado would be the right age if they filmed it now, but that won't happen so for those type of roles we can probably predict new unknown talents for the time of casting for the actual films. Roles like young Roland, Jake, Susan, young Cuthbert and Alain should all be unknowns that fit the age for the roles at the time of shooting.
I don't know who should play Susannah but she needs to be black black, not Rosario black.
The Mist, was pretty cool, I dug it mostly especially the Drew Struzan painting of Roland at the start who looked a lot like Clint Eastwood, I might add. I think this was a foreshadowing of a DT movie on the horizon. The Dark Tower movies will be worthy of Drew Struzan posters when they finally do come out.
The Dark Knight looks awesome, it's weird every time I see an image of Heath Ledger as the Joker I'm eerily reminded of Brandon Lee as The Crow, strange that the both died before their most epic of movies ever made it to the theaters. It's a crying shame really, wearing that weird makeup must be the kiss of death, or something.
Jack's Dad from Lost or Jeff Fahey from Lost, my best guess' for a good Roland, but who knows who will actually fill those boots. I'm gonna go make a gunslinger burrito, Say Thankee ! Ka-mai
people,I don't mean that in a mean way or anything (well, maybe
alittle bit),but damn,I thought I had alot of crazy ideas,but Chuck
Norris as Roland.....Ha! I'm gonna be rollin over that for weeks,he's
a funny dude...to MAKE fun of.Nuff Said.Im gonna change my
vote I don't think Hayden Paneterre should be Susan because she's pretty and everything but she's got a BIG ASS head,I mean Damn,it looks like you can fit two midgets in that sh1t I swear on everything,Scarlett Johanson's my girl,shes cool and SEXY,but too old for the part,good one though she do HAVE to be hott.Oh and Kidd 77,no offense taken,your obviously a Star Wars geek,I mean lover.To be be honest I hate all of them,Star Trek,Star Wars,Stargate sg1 they just suck HARD ass to me straight up,but hey do you.By the way I first saw Susan as Anne Hatheway when I read it,until I saw Sara Paxton brunnette or blonde she's gotta be fine,anyways those marketing ideas were crazy,Kevin you are funny as hell,talkin bout are they gonna have DT pregnancy tests,you crazy,I know what you mean though,whoever broght the video game idea,that was hott,I never would have thoght of that,they just might do stuff like that if King was ok with it.Jessica,babygirl,don't lose faith in this bein a movie,honestly I'll look at anything that will bring this story to life,but if it doesnt become a big screen movie,I'd be reaaly disappointed,cause it deserves to be,look, done the RIGHT way it'll make alot of movie's(LOTR,War of the Worlds,etc...)look weak,why settle for a mini sereis,for one of the the best stories ever,when you can make it into a movie that would not only be good,but COULD be one the best movie of all time,right now LOTR,Titanic,Gone with the Wind,among other good ones holds rightfully,those titles,this one should be right up there with them, am I wrong? Although somebody did say nomatter what we can all agree the movie version won't be better than the book,which goes without saying,I mean who can match imagination.By,the way thanks for tellin me about the Mist,that movie was crazy,I liked it,and that painting at the beginning,that was hott,I don't know why it got destroyed or what it meant,tho.
I think some of yall are just too negative cause yall scared that it's gonna be a butt movie,but be for real,how is King gonna let this be anywhere near sh1tty,he wouldn't let that happen,yall alreadyknow why,he ACTUALLY does care more than WE do about DT.I mean he mean he wrote it. Ish,Wow!I gotta say I liked most of your ideas,they werent bad,but Damn did you really have to diss Helena B. Carter like that?Shes good,I liked her in Sweeny Todd,it was funny tho I ain't gonna lie,you said she could be play Rhea WITHOUT the makeup,if thats not some funny 'ish' I don't know what is.Ha.Kevin,thats also true,that the best perfomances sometimes comes out of the least expected actors,but still,I know for a FACT that Christian Bale would SUCK as Roland,I mean I still see him as Psycho he was good in that and Batman( but I havent seen that,and don't plan to)as well as I know Halle Berry can't do it ,she can't act,for nothin Catwoman is a srong woman character and she couldnt even do that right .And CALVIN, Miley Cyrus and Anna Sophia Robb for Susan?!!!!!!!Thats WEAK MAN.And by the way Calvin,let me ask you,what the FU*K do you mean Susannha
should be BLACK BLACK,not Rosario BLACK,I don't like the way
that sh1t came out,I am african american,and it seems like
you don't know WHAT the hell your talkin about.Yes I agree
whoever even MENTIONED Rosario as Susannha is wack because
those are some sh11ty ideas,I mean Im light skinned too but damn she is TOO damn light skinned for that part and wouldnt do the character justice at ALL she's not good enough,Angela Bassett WOULD have been perfect way back when,true Ish,I personally stand by Gabrielle Union,theres really nobody better,shes Gorgeous and can act better than what people give her credit for,plus Susannha HAS to HOTT and she fits the descript.But that sounded kind of ignorant the way you said that Cal,I did'nt appreciate that.Your ideas seem to be getting weaker,and weaker,you BORE me dude, the ONLY thing I'm gonna touch on and agree with
you is....it's kind of weird, when some actors play roles in
movies that are dark or scary(Poltergiest,is a good example)they
die.Cal,I can't lie I have thought about that before,and some of
you examples are true,its not a joke,with the Crow and Heath
Ledger,God Bless Rest In Peace,the same thing happened with
my Babygirl Aaliyah,she played in Queen of the Damned right
before SHE died,and was gonna play the role in Matrix Jada eventually got,but damn thats crazy no lie,A well known psychic did say that she died BECAUSE she did that role.Crazy huh,well
just wanted to touch on that.This has been somethin,talk to yall
lata.
Oh well.
I never ever said Miley Cyrus, gag! Robb looks the part and is the right age, that is all I'm saying, but by the time they do the fourth film they will have to cast someone completely different anyways, that was my point. How can you say anything about Anna Sophia Robb when you suggested Sara Paxton talk about weak!!! and too old. Sadly I did see that movie on hbo or something, that one where she plays a fish. Not so good, Bridge to Tarabithia was much better.
shia labeouf for eddie.. and as much as i love him i am not sure.
maybe because i kind of have my heart set on ed norton lol. but he
does have that look about him and i can see him looking the part
of the junkie and the gun slinger. i am so excited. not to go to far
off topic but has anyone seen the previews for the new xfiles
movie? very exciting. i think that if they did chose norton for eddie
it would be awhile before filming since the avengers movie will soon
be in the works. and yes i kept seeing snape while watching
sweeney todd. lol at the pregnacy test. well i am at work so i will talk
to you all later
And I would cast Tom Waits as Callahan definetly...hes perfect!!!
Which reminds me, Bruce campbell would be a decent actor to play Eddie!
Firstly i must say that Stephen king kicks ass. Anyhoo, i cant wait for the movie to come out, or mini series. Now actors to play the characters. Hmmm.... Well u may or may not agree with me guys but hey i am only human!!
Roland - Ralph Fiennes ( i think he would handle this role and shock a lot of people)
Man in black- Johnny depp (he could turn his hand to anything and i think he would suit this role perfect)
Eddie - Joaquin pheonix ( I think he could provide the perfomance needed to portray eddie dean)
Susannah - Halle berry (When i was reading the books it was her face i saw)
Jake - Freddie Highmore (convincing in the spiderwick chronicles)
Ok thats all i could think of now would love to hear other dt fans feedback.
You know the rules and so do I.
A full commitment’s what I’m thinking of,
You wouldnt get this from any other guy.
I just wanna tell you how I’m feeling,
Gotta make you understand…
Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down,
Never gonna run around and desert you.
Never gonna make you cry,
Never gonna say goodbye,
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.
We’ve known each other for so long
Your heart’s been aching
But you’re too shy to say it.
Inside we both know what’s been going on,
We know the game and we’re gonna play it.
Annnnnd if you ask me how I’m feeling,
Don’t tell me you’re too blind to see…
Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down,
Never gonna run around and desert you.
Never gonna make you cry,
Never gonna say goodbye,
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.
Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down,
Never gonna run around and desert you.
Never gonna make you cry,
Never gonna say goodbye,
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.
Give you up. give you up.
Give you up, give you up.
Never gonna give
Never gonna give, give you up.
Never gonna give
Never gonna give, give you up.
We’ve known each other for so long
Your heart’s been aching
But you’re too shy to say it.
Inside we both know what’s been going on,
We know the game and we’re gonna play it.
I just wanna tell you how I’m feeling,
Gotta make you understand…
Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down,
Never gonna run around and desert you.
Never gonna make you cry,
Never gonna say goodbye,
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.
Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down,
Never gonna run around and desert you.
Never gonna make you cry,
Never gonna say goodbye,
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.
Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down,
Never gonna run around and desert you.
Never gonna make you cry,
Never gonna say goodbye,
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.
Roland: Keanu Reeves would suck. Wrong voice, wrong look, wrong everything. Willis and Gibson are great actors but not western style actors. Eastwood is too old but as Steven Deschain he would be great. Whoever said Nicholas Cage is on crack same with Kevin Costner. Peter Stomare has the right look but i'm not sure about the voice. Robert Patrick would also be a great candidate. Viggo would be good if they make him look older. I would say Harrison Ford but after his latest movie i dont think he's the same actor he used to be. That sucked. But i digress. Whoever it is, absolutely no english accent. A western themes movie with the lead having an english accent? Come on get real.
Eddie: Christian Bale would physically fit the bill. He could definitely do the skinny crack-head then buff up. But he couldnt do the poor Brooklyn smartass role. If Ryan Reynolds would commit to it he would be great. And if you rough up Sean William Scott he might be able to do it. He can be a smartass. And the number 2 choice can always play Cuthbert too.
Sussanah: no idea. Gabrielle Union possibly. And Halley Berry wouldnt be bad if she could toughen up. We know she can look ragged just look at Monsters Ball.
Sheemie: Andy Serkis would be awesome. He rocks at playing the weird supporting role.
Jake: No idea.
Stephen King: Himself. No other choice.
Man in black: Johnny Depp could play it God knows he's weird enough for it. But i kinda picture him as older so mayber Christopher Walken if he can talk more sinister and normal.
And i am also in big support of some lesser known actors for the leads as long as they are good. You dont want the movie to become a pissing match between the big names. All the actors need to commit. This could be the biggest series ever. But i think the movies should be great as long as they dont cut any corners. Stephen King should definitely be brought on as an adviser. And keep the movies rated R and gory as hell. The books were weird and twisted and the movies should be too.
could it be otherwise? (how great is that man)
i just finished the DT and i'm still astonished (again). Stephen King has an unrestrained immagination. i could compare it to Lord of the rings for how massive and real it feels, but it is much more (and i'm the one grew up with the LOTR) becouse of the progressive changing of the characters psycology and interacting with our world (and that constant feeling of "the world had moved").
my concerne is: regardless the director, is it even possible to convey that sensations thru a screen? all of the interconnections (? sorry for my english if it's the wrong word) between other books and the life of SK himself, the meaning of ka, khef and we's ka gan. Or the sensation of being near the rose. i'm sure the battles will look great directed by a man who brought us MI3 (even if personally i'd prefer someone who has already done something epic, like Peter jackson).
i'd like to see the solution for the battle at balazar's place where eddy is naked (it's pretty long, and i don't think we will see any genitals :), or susanna f*king the demon while they taking Jack from our world. or mordred eating mia.
i've noticed that almost all the SK movies are not doing justice to his books and i hope it will not happen to DT (beacuse we all know that there will be a lot of chapters simply cut out due to impossibility of realizzation, adult content or other justifications plausible or not).
and if the movie will suck, what could we possibly do? nothing.
so all this comment is useless. have trust in ka.
July 7th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Alec Baldwin? Is that a joke
no
Roland is no less than forty five years old. This would take any young pretty boy, including Christian Bale out of the picture. If Josh Brolin were a few years older, he'd be perfect.
Susannah is neither ragged-looking, mixed, nor Latina, so most of the choices here also are quite silly and made by the non-thinking.
Eddie is a junkie in his twenties so casting should go to the actors who have made careers out playing such, like Joseph Gordan Levitt or Ryan Gosling.
In conclusion, due to the lack of logic and insufficient brain capacity for believing anything said here will be considered by anyone involved in this film; really just from a lack of understanding or recall from the books alone...Everything that has been written here, including my own post, is an inconsequential waste of time.
-Summer Glau
P.S.
This project will fail unless it includes the badest of asses movie triumvirate of Lance Henrickson, Micheal Ironside, and Powers Boothe...
With Samuel L. Jackson as the Crimson King...
Don't forget to watch The Sarah Connor Chronicles' return next Fall on Fox!
"Why so serious!" ~The Joker
someone mentionned Viggo for Roland and, when I think of how Viggo was as Lucifer in The Prophecy, I actually wonder how he'd be as The Man in Black!
I actually think that role may be better suited for him than Roland.
also, with this movie not being started for another couple of years, there are a few up and coming actors which may be more suitable for the roles...
let's see how the current ones do...
who knows, we may end up seing Shai LeBeof as Eddie for all we know. yes, we may think now "oh, gods, please no" but, for all we know, he may be an incredible Eddie in 2 - 3 years time.
He has a wirey, street-wise way about him that definitely suits the character.
As much as people dislike Shia for whatever reason, he's a terrific actor.
P.S. IT, was also tied in with D.T. cuz of Dandelo (I think I missed it last time round.)
P.P.S. I don't really play video games, but there's one called "Half Life", which is supposedly an un-official sequel to King's "The Mist" novel. ( I thought that was kind of interesting.)
P.P.P.S. I'm also African American and I too was kind of put off by Chief Slap-a-Ho up there's comment about "Black-Black", but I understand what he's talking about. (Although it could have been put a little more eloquently!) Plus, if he really is Native American, they kinda got an even shorter end of the stick than we did, so what-ev.
P.P.P.P.S. WTF is up with these D-bags on the internet and they're fu**in' grammatical error complexes. I'm not in f*c*in' eighth grade english, so just shut the f*ck up already. At least I get the spelling right. (for the most part.) JESUS!
long time no see.
I can't recall who wrote it, but I think Ryan Gosling could do just fine in the role of Eddie.
As for Susannah Dean, when I read the books, I always pictured Jada Pincett Smith in her role.
Any one ever considered who could play Mia? This is going to be difficult.
Well see ya.
Long days and so on
I don't know why but Mia in my head is Monica Bellucci.
You got a point there with Monica Bellucci. She surely could play Mia.
I think Alan Rickman would be good choice for the man in black.
perhaps then you could share some of your apparently infinite wisdom with the rest of us folken, great sage and...
Since you know what the bad choices are, you most likely know the good ones. Please share!
As you have read all our bad wishes/requests for actors you apperently have some degree of interest in this discussion, and I can't quite see why you would like us to stop. Or perhaps it's all ka, and all dreams are fruitless?
Stian
anyways, if they were to make the DT series into movies (which I doubt they ever will, I don't even think the origional post was real) the only way it would work and please the fans would be to use unknown actors, good, like LOTR did for the most part. I'd like to see Roland on the screen rather than
I hope they take it slow and not rush this ... All that comes to mind is masterpiece... I do agree with alot of people when they say they need to portray the characters as percise as possible as Stephen King has written them. Ronald has to be perfect! I pictured him a bit like Sam Elliott, a bit of a roughneck with lots and lots of charm and charisma.
I possibly don't see how they can fit this all in a 3 hour movie and keep it held together as well as Stephen King.
~ Not Only .. is this very important to Stephen King, but it's also like cutting into the hearts of his avid readers who knows how outstanding this series is and holds them close to their hearts and minds...
Handle With Care!
~With love from Maine
Long days and pleasant nights
DESHAIN,how many people
have made that dumb ass statement that roland should be played Christian Bale?!!!Face it HE"S BATMAN NOW,that's how he's always gonna seen,it won't work.If Keanu can't be Roland,or for the casters to even CONSIDER him,than I'm still at loss at who should play Roland,EXCEPT for an unknown,I mean honestly namatter who anybody mentions for the part they just don't seem good enough.I'll leave that one up to the casters,you all should to and please stop wit all the DUMB ASS ideas.PLEASE JUST STOP its sickining to me.MORNINGSTAR,Sanaa Lathan as Susannah
is weak ok.The girl is not one the best attresses,basically HELL NO,she'll suck ass as Sussanah.PEOPLE these are strong characters ok,stop trying to cast WEAK ASS acters just because they look good.Im not trying to
BE mean,but I'm glad,some of you are NOT in charge of the Real castings.But a DCMOVIEGIRL mention somthing about Mia's character,that Monica Belluci should play it,not bad all,girl is hot,could work.Oh yeah,Rocko,that was some funny stuff you said on the july 9,interesting too,makes you think,like I never knew that King's least favorite movie was SHining,my favorite next to Cujoand the Mist.That's crazy,keep your crazy ass up and speak your mind I like that.Besides you never DO know,sh1t Lance Bass could be what's HOTT by the time this comes out,whenever that will be.Take care people.
Susannah/Detta/Odetta- Nona Gaye/Naomie Harris
Eddie- Edward Norton
Jake- Rory Culkin
Susan- Evan Rachel Wood
Teenage Roland- Sean Biggerstaff
Teenage Cuthbert- Kieran Culkin
Teenage Alain- Robert Pattinson
Voice of Blaine/Little Blaine- Robin Williams
Flagg- Cillian Murphy
Aunt Cordelia- Angelica Huston
Rhea- Geraldine McEwan
Allie- Helen Hunt
Cort- Tommy Lee Jones
Thorin- Malcolm Macdowell
Calvin Tower- Michael Moore
Gabrielle- Rachel Weisz
Stephen Deschain- Clint Eastwood
Sylvia Pittston- Kathy Bates
Jonas- Donald Sutherland
Tick-Tock Man- Paul Michael Levesque
Gasher- Andy Serkis
Dandelo- Tim Curry
Father Callahan- James Cromwell
Oy- CGI/Henson's Creature Shop
Young Mordred- Seamus Davey-Fitzpatrick
Teenage Mordred- Trent Ford
Greta Shaw- Joan Plowright
Mia- Kate Beckinsale
Hax- Michael Duncan
On a side note, Bale made a great Bruce Wayne, but his batman was crap. I wonder how much thought they put into that (since I don't beleive he wore the costume in the first movie.) I hope something like that does not happen in DT.
I'll be positive for once and say they probably know what they are doing (owch, that hurt)
It's not going to be based off the actual Series books 1 thru 7
it looks like it's going to end up a 3 movie deal on the 3 comic books...(check the dark tower website for titles).
If you look for the MTV interview with Stephen King
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1574452...
Read into it and play close attention to how he revolves around the 3 books Gunslinger born, Long walk home, and treachery.
If so, though good the movies have potential of being, It doesn't add up to the original books being made into a movie.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that everyone commenting here is no younger than 25. (I hope I'm wrong) My question involves who the marketing is going to be aimed at. Obviously there is a huge following with the (now) adults, but
what about the kids? Are they going to make the movie to
appeal to them too? And if so, how would that effect the story?
You can't take your kids to watch a murdering cowboy doing acid, or a guy shooting heroin, or countless other scenes I'm too lazy
to write.
I'd love to say they will make it for US, but when it comes right down to it, they're making this movie to make money (if there wasn't money to be made they wouldn't even be doing it) and
kids are the highest consumers. So, I'm curious. What do you think? Should they make major story changes to make it kid-friendly? If so, what?
And just for the record, I hope it's rated R. I want to see the blood, the curses, the drugs, the sex, everything. If even 1 punch is pulled it would be an insult to us all.
He laughed and said, "You have no idea," and he patted me on the arm. I was relentless and talked to him some more. I think I do have an idea of the scale of the project and how hard it will be to translate on film, that's why it would take passionate people like J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof, and people like me that have lived with the series for 17 years, to give it the love and attention it needs. I think the Tower is in good hands, J.J. is one cool dude, and quite brilliant. Ka like the wind my friends!!!
Congratulations! :D
If you do get a job, please, tell him to watch this board.
There are some awful suggestions and a few good ones to be gleaned from here.
Susannah early thirties
Roland mid-to-late forties
I swear, judging by some of the suggestions wrong-aged actors people keep suggesting here, you'd think folks hadn't read the same books I had. :P
Did anyone else notice "my life for you" and "Star Wormwood blazes"? It's just a matter of time now, folken.
Keep the actors age-appropriate!
Long days and pleasant nights, fellow ka-babbies
Eddie: Shia Le Boeuf
Susannah: Halle Berry/ Andy Serkis
Steven Deschain: Stephen King
The man in Black: Johnny Cash
Father Callahan: Robert Duvall/ Dennis Hopper
Voice of Oy: Stephen King
Cort: Clint Eastwood
Voice of Blaine The Mono: Kevin Spacey
Andy: Messenger robot many other functions: John Cleese
The Crimson King: George W. Bush
Jack Mort: John McCain
If they indeed make 7 movies out of the 7 books, they had damned well better be EPIC, and from the beginning, not starting with W&G.
Has anyone seen the End-world almanac in the comics? There is a good picture of a billy-bumbler. I always pictured Oy's eyeballs as being gold-ringed, not the fur around his eyes. There are also illustrations of Lady Oriza and various taheen. Pretty cool.
Justin Kirk ( Andy ) from Weeds might make a good Eddie, or maybe Henry Dean, as he is a bit older than 23.
Multiple actors to play the many faces of Walter.
Long days and pleasant nights
crazy and would look so fake,I don't know WHAT they're gonna
do about Jake,or who's gonna play him,but thats a very,um,
butt idea!Cuthbert you stupid,LoL,I read what u said Aug.20th!
Right on!To Mike,blahblahblah,I've been were you are now and I know the books AMAZING and goes without words RIGHT?
Everytime one of u people come here,still reding the books yall
always say the same things,its too crazy to be a movie,all I'm
gonna say is enjoy,keep reading,and after you finish,then
decide wether YOU think they should makea movie out of it
or not(which they already are),just look at what Calvin said...by
way Cal,what's up hey U know I was just playin when I made
fun of U right,hahaha,very funny,but listen if u could tell JJ to
hook me up too,I wanna be on it too,I mean,U know,I DO have
the best taste in EVERYTHING,so of course they would want
MY OPINIONS,LOL...just kidding no good luck I hope u get the
Job!And thanx 4 NEW,news on whats goin on,at least I'm hearing
SOMETHING on it,that's only bcause I BELIEVE what u sai Tho!!!
Lata
This is definitely not kid-friendly fare, despite the presence of Jake in the story. All the sex, blood, violence and Eddie's naked shoot-out with Balazar's men needs to be in this definitely R to NC-17 rated thing.
They should probably shoot it in one fell swoop, to deal with Jake's age. Maybe twins to play Jake, for the times when he crosses his own path in the course of the story.
Also, I truly believe that Eddie Dean's shoes can only be filled by Ed Norton.
Oh, and +1 on Vigo Mortensen. He's the one I had in my head as I was reading.
And I hoped that if the series were ever put on screen It would be broken up by book like Harry Potter or given a series on HBo or something, not just crammed into some 2 hr film. It just wouldn't do it justice.
I'm re-re-reading DT. There seems to be some confusion about whether Oy's claws are retractable.
Has anyone been reading the DT comics? Stephen King ought to novelize them.. Lots of interesting back-story.
Also, has anyone read The Stand comic yet? Larry Underwood is drawn to sort of like the guy who played him in the TV version. Seems like it'll be a pretty good comic series.
Long days and pleasant nights, Tower folken
LONG DAYS AND PLEASANT NIGHTS too all
In The Wastelands, when Roland puts Oy inside his shirt while tracking Jake in Lud, it says he (Oy) retracted his claws. All the other descriptions of Oy say that his claws are not retractable. Has anyone else noticed this minor discrepancy?
You could argue that there's a whole philosophy behind that ending.
Anyways thats what I think.
Anyone out there think they'll mention Roland's problem with the letter "H"? That was one that bothered me...How was he able to interact with his grandfather Henry the Tall, Hax the Cook, Herk Avery of Hambry or the Big Coffin Hunters without sounding all Cockney in 'Ambry, with the Big Coffin 'Unters on the trail of Arthur 'Eath and the rest of our young ka-tet?
I liked the ending fine. It was a Stephen King ending, to be sure. Not quite the cliffhanger he left us with in Pet Sematary, or Cell, or even The Stand. (Which is also now a Marvel comic that looks like it will be worthy of a read, even with the tons of stuff that will by necessity be left out.)
Check out End-World almanac, lch. It's a one-shot comic. There is a good drawing of a billy-bumbler in there, and some of the taheen, muties and places mentioned in the books. The Long Road Home has a drawing of a bumbler, but it's kind of shadowy.
Gods bless the Turtle, Tower folken
Roland - Josh Halloway or Viggo Mortenson
Eddie - Shia Labeouf
Jake - Freddie Highmore (kinda hard cause 7 movies = minimum 7 years, and males look alot different from 11 to 18)
Susannah - Rutina Wesley
Throughout the first 5 books I had no idea who could be cast for Susannah, until I started watching the True Blood series. She fits the bill perfectly. Check her out.
What do you think?
Dane Cook??!! Gimme a break. He's a great actor/ comedian?? What are you twelve years old. If he's in the movie I won't watch it.
That would be an absolutely horrible choice for Eddie. Danny Devito would be a better choice for Eddie. Idiot.
Eddie- Leonardo Dicaprio
Eddie- Leonardo Dicaprio
Though at their high status, I dont think either would take on a 7 year contract, short of being paid 100's of millions.
I think in the long run, the best solution is to find new actors and actresses, just like in Lord of the Rings, which is what I think they'll do.
I also like the idea of the father from The Mist as Roland. That guy is a very talented actor and could take on the role greatly.
Roland- Jackman, Bale, o Mortensen. Even Caviezel. But no Clive Owen.
Susanah- Rosario Dawson, Hale Barry.
Jake- Haley Joel Osment.
Eddie Dean- Reeves, Kutcher, o Ewan Mcgregor
The Man in Black- Walken, Dafoe.
Forgive if i didn't spelled the names well, English is not my native Language.
Long Days and Pleasent Nights!
I'll do my best
I was wonderring, what would you all think if he were to be Eddie?
He's young enough, he can act really well now, and he CAN look strung out if need be.
MIGHT be a decent option?
as for Roland, i'm still leaning towards Vigo as well. he has the look, the tallent, and would do a great job at it.
Suzanna and Jake will be the hardest two roles to fill!
voice of Paul Bettany for Blaine!!! (i laughed, then thought it might ACTUALLY be quite decent)
Actors don't really matter to me, and I think it might be better to start with unknowns instead of famous actors.
I noticed that someone long ago had noted that many of King's books are related, which is of course true. I am also very interested in this, and wrote a guide on it. I have only posted it on ebay's guide/reviews site, but I would love it if some more true King fans would check it out - let me know what you think!
Here is the site - or, if you don't trust the link, go straight to ebay and do a search for my ebay id: Scary_Nurse314 (I have several guides, but this will be easy to find).
http://reviews.ebay.com/Dark-Tower-Universe-Ste...
You're right. I read that wrong. But you did still say Dane Cook was a great comedian/actor which means you deserve to be crucified upside down and smeared with human feces.
For me Jada Pinkett Smith would do nice as Susannah.
As for Roland: Viggo Mortensen oder Rusell Crowe maybe
Eddie: Ed Norton or Garrett Hedlund
Jake: I don't know his name, but the kid from The Last Legion maybe.
Have a nice day
Mark Orr
I am currently on book three and I am dying to see the movie.
I just hope they do it right.
I understand star power brings studio money, but let's have ONE for the fans.
Aside from that though, I really don't think that they should make DT into a film unless they includ EVERY single detail in the books. Most movies butcher the story line and change things that could be very important to the storyline. A series would probably work much better but I'm still not sure about it. If they do make a movie, they should probably just use a bunch of unknown, rising actors that nobody has ever heard of.
Has anyone thought of whether Oy should be computer animated or be a machine built specifically to recreate how people see Oy?
Yeah, I like forward to see this as a movie, but I think a tv series would be better. but what can you do?
A mini series would be a little better.
Pay them $19 a minute screen time.
It is very, VERY important that we get this movie right... It needs to b a movie and NOT a mini-series. That is the main thing.
Now this is only possible if you have good actors. If there bad actors then please make it into a miniseries that will not hurt the books as bad as if you put out the movie and it was a huge deal with anticipation and everything cuz i kno i look more forward to going to the movie theatre then sitting at home and watching t.v.
Now for the character list. (THIS IS CRUCIAL)
Roland of Deschain- Clint Eastwood is way too old... bad idea, now i think my favorite for this role would be Daniel Day Lewis or Russel Crowe...
Susan- Would most definately have to be Beyonce or Tyra Banks
Eddie- Definately Edward Norton
Man in Black-Christian Bale
all the other actors are not too too important in order to make this an oustanding movie! also take the soundtrack very seriously as well and just make magic!
as for eddie, i just couldn't see him as edward norton! no way!
about Sussanah i'm between Halle Berry and Kerry Washington but kerry was as i always pictured her.
I read about john glover somewhere here. Yes he would fit eldred jonas perfectly
Cort: Brendan Gleeson
The Man in Black: Bob Dylan
And no Halle Berry, Vigo Motrensen, John Leguizamo, etc. Are you trying to ruin the movie?
These books were with me growing up. These are by far my favorite novels. I'm terrified to see how they will turn out. I cried when Eddie died, hell I cried when Oy died. Oh and speaking of Oy if they over computer generate him I will die a little inside.
Please Stephen King make sure justice is done to this series.
no thanks, i've had enough of him, he dont resemble Roland at all
The Movie?
X-MEN
The Actor?
Hugh Jackman
Jake = Devon Gearhart
Eddie = James McAvoy
Suzannah = Jada Smith
Man in Black = Javier Bardem
Cort = Mads Mikkelson
Cuthbert = Paul Bettany
Crimson King = Crispin Glover
Steven Deschain = Clint Eastwood (cameo appearance)
Blane = Ricky Gervais (voice)
tell me Im wrong...i dare ya
Gotta say when I first read the series I was a little freaked out, but curiosity won out and I fell head over heels in love. The part where Roland whips out his guns (oh my) and hammers Tull to hell and back - it was a pivotal moment for me. Made me instantly love the series.
Just as long as they can find someone with the right sort of presence for Roland, I'm not complaining. He doesn't have to be absolutely perfecto but I would like if they kept the sort of look he was designed with in the novel. "A face that looked as if it had been chiseled by the hands of some vengeful god" or however the thing went. Also if Stephen King gives a shit about it he'll hang around the set and be a sort of the reference guide for what they want to do. Now I don't know how JJ Abrams works since I've only ever seen Lost and Star Trek, his two biggest things, but if he has any of Peter Jackson's described traits maybe he is the guy for this. I'd like it if they could do all the cool things like in Lord of the Rings:
(1: state of the art special effects
(2: if the producers/directors hire people who love the series and respect the books, and have the power to bring King's vivid imagery to life
(3: if they hire a good cast
(4: big sweeping camera motions. I want this thing to be BIG! Lots of large music sequences, things that'll put chillbumps on your arms.
(5: if they treat it like a Western but add that creepy thing where there's like robots and stuff but wizards and oracles at the same time. etc, if they kept King's original "This is a sci-fi but it's also a western, but no wait! It's a fantasy too" kind of element in there.
(6: Roland has to have blue eyes. That's all I ask, if they do none of what I just said, it's what I'll be looking for and then I'll just be hanging onto that fact like it was a security blanket or something. He HAS to have blue eyes. I mean if he doesn't then they've got to be like the stupidest people in the world. How hard is it to get contacts. >.>
anyway didn't mean to ramble on that long, I'm kinda psyched for this movie. Peace, and thankya.
Walter-Johnny Depp
Eddie- Shiloh Beu(whatever the hell his name is)
but seriously look at Stephen Moyer from tru blood and tell me he doesnt look like roland?