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Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Stango — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:12:58 -0000

I think in the first film, Lex Luthor, Metallo and parasite should be villain, but Metallo much seperate. Or even lex and Bizzaro. Make it like a giant Sci-fi. bit darker, but not too dark becuas its Superman!
if 2nd fillm Brainiac and Maybe Mongul. Also, Lex Having smaller part to.
And finally if 3rd Doomsday , general Zod and all of the Phantom Zone prisoners!

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

matt — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:27:52 -0000

Im a connoisseur of Superman, ive collected everything from the 30s comics the the 30s early animation right upto season 8 of smallville...and i firmly believe the Smallville incarnation of Clark or more notebly now Superman is the greatest portrayal of the character ''ever'' WHY...OK well we've been told the man story over and over again, but never the story of the boy who becomes the man and why!..we've never been shown or told how he came to deal with who he is and what his capabilitys are' and how he comes to terms with using them, and for what purpose...and the Smallville people have nailed it'' sure theres been few dodgy episodes, but all in all world wide Smallville is a smash, or it would never have got past the second season,..now nearly in its 9th year..its clear the people or majority have chosen the way forward for the future of Superman, or if you like who should definitely portray him...and i have to agree...it has to be Tom welling, he's played the character longer than anyone else in the industry, so it would only make the sense obviously to cast him as Superman, because lets face it' brandon routh is ok actor but he's not Superman'' and i also believe this could be key factor into why the movie flopped...he just didnt convince people the way Tom welling dose, and as chris reeves said R.I.P, that a large part of it..to captivate the audience..to make them believe ''a man can fly'' ...so why should'nt Tom welling appear in Green lanturn...simply because his portrayal of the Clark kent character is been the best to date...just as chris bale's Batman has been the best to date with the new life breathed back into the franchise, taking nothing away from the chris reeves legacy....there Gold classic'' but it would seem fundimentally that Tom welling has as chris did all those years ago..captivated people into believing a man can fly...although he's only taken flight once in nearly 9 years, however i believe the best is still yet to come, what they've done with Smallville is what George lucas failed the first time to do with Star wars, wheres lucus had to go back..they've made perfect foundational basis of which to launch 2 or 3 great Superman movies...and it worked with Star trek after the 60s series finished and it would work with Smallville...im not sure how many Star trek movies they made off the back of the 60s series...i do know they smashed the box office though, i dont believe we've ever seen Superman super before..sure sure we've seen him fly and move outside time in Smallville...but we've never seen what he truely capable of'' the comics have always gave us glimpse...also if the keep casting the wrong people to play the key parts..the Superman franchise will fall into rut and decay just as the Batman franchise did in the 90s..before chris nolan rescued it!!...but with todays technology...and with the perfect cast Tom welling and michael rosenbaum...they should give us the world and Superman fans the movie we've been waiting so desperately for since mr reeves did the first movie!!! so should Tom welling be cast as the man of steel ..YES 100% he's the way forward now for SUPERMAN!!!

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

patriccaliocbum — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:51:48 -0000

KEEP BRANDON ROUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

HaHa — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:13:35 -0000

tyranny_souls has some good ideas!!! I hope Warner Bros looks at postings like these before they proceed forward. Also forgot Bizzaro is the perfect choice for a villian if they are wanting to see a dark or twisted version of the man of steel.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

HaHa — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:01:32 -0000

Definately keep Superman all about truth and justice and bring in someone to test him and push him to nasty battle. When lives are at stake is when he's the toughest. Do away with kryptonite, lex luthor being the main enemy and don't get too carried away with the lois lane romance. Bring in Darkseid, parasite, metallo, braniac, mongul or doomsday. Once again lex and kryptonite are overdone. Also he is the most powerful hero so make his powers fast and devastating when used at full capacity.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

C Taylor — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:05:23 -0000

Brandon Routh looked more like a Superboy than a Superman. He was not right for the role and his acting ability is about as broad as the stretching ability of a half inch rubber band. If reboot means doing another origin -- NO!! If it mwans making Superman DARk and EDGY -- DEFINITELY NO!! The reason Batman Begins and Dark Knight worked was because it went back to prior material. Batman was never the Blue clad cape crusader that we got in the 50s-60s. He was originally dark -- so it really didn't stray from source material. If the Studio wants a re-boot they should base it on the current series Smallville. If Welling does do Series 9 & 10, he will be 35 at the end and he can step in and finish the role and be done with the character (1-2 movies topes). It will tie up all the loose ends of Smallville and have a fan base already in place.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Ida — Thu, 28 May 2009 01:32:03 -0000

maybe if they make it something like Superman: Birthright (go search for the comic), it should be okay.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

dre — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:33:16 -0000

whatever the actors name was who played the recent superman...he did a gerat imitation of Christopher Reeve's Clark Kent. a work of art. And some of the lighting on his face (probably with added AVID touchup was really amazing. So, he gains twenty five pounds...and he'll do fine again.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

SCOTT DOWDY — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:32:46 -0000

LOOK IT IS NOT HARD ! all these years to do this movie right . Have superman be more up to date like he is in all the comics and justice league unlimited shows, and give him a fight. People are tired of seeing lex luthor trying to turn the world into kryptonite or blow up countries with rouge nuc missles. You can have lex but put in Braniac ,Parasite,Massacare hell even Toyman would be a change instead of always having lex flippin luthor. I KNOW I AM A NERD.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Callen — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 02:16:33 -0000

Well I hope the new Superman movie is going to be action packed and he actually goes against super villian's like General Zod, Bizzaro,and Brainac. Because it is getting very boring with Lex Luthor being the bad guy trying to kill superman and the other bad guys famous in the comics not even starring in the movies. Please for the love of god stick with Mark Millar's idea and make a Superman Trilogy with good action in it aswell as super powered bad guys don't just have stupid bad scientist steal the fame. And use the the famous Death of Superman in the new series and have him come back from the grave with the world hating his doubles. That's the kind of crap people like and have the super hero movies come together for a big event like Justice League. Because as much as I like Marvel I hate seeing Dc Films being less popular and less in numbers and let Superman go a little dark in one film but not too dark because he is one of the number one superheroes that you cant go that bad ass on.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

maraphalla — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:02:22 -0000

H Brandon Routh,

how are you doing today? I want to become a superman just like you. I want you to come to pick me up from my house.

Thank you

Sincerely,

Maraphalla Chan

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

tyranny_souls — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:32:12 -0000

If they're going to reboot Superman then why not go all the way.I don't want to see a dark Superman in terms of a Batman type personality,however it would be nice to see his "ultimate boyscout" persona challenged.Just once i'd like to see him frustrated over humanity's shortcomings.Also,i'm sure Lex Luthor would need to be in one of the movies.However,if it's going to be a series then there are other enemies for Warner Bros. to use.I can see John Malkovich as a really twisted Brainiac.Or a computer generated Darkseid with someone like Anthony Hopkins or Christopher Walken as his voice.Or a computer generated Doomsday with an R rating would really give fans something to drool over.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Blue Steel — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:38:13 -0000

Bring the greatest superhero of our times back with a bang!!!!

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Joe — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:26:15 -0000

Superman Begins, then Man Of Steen, then Superman : Doomsday Stick with the comics forget the old superman movies, start fresh, let by gones be by gones, New cast new everything more action than any super hero movies, good storyline good director, good writer thats all we need, Superman suppose to be America's Super hero, He has alot of potential.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Rich — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:20:38 -0000

Thanks, Chief. Btw, I agree totally on what you said. Whether the film followed Donner's imagery or not, I wanted a clear cut, good-ol' fashioned slugfest w/ a good story, as well.
I still enjoyed "Superman Returns" for it's many fine scenes (some of the more majestic scenes, like hovering over Metropolis "listening" to the city, or when when he explained how the world needed a savior...) but it definitely needed better pacing and more dynamic action.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Lois Lane — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:24:17 -0000

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Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

D Block — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:14:43 -0000

Good post Rich,

I would say this, I actually believe people, at the announcing of Superman Returns were looking forward to a lighthearted, clear cut battle between good and evil, without too much nuance and angst and ramped up action sequences with greatly upgraded special effects from it's 20 year predecessor. I think that's what people were excited about, now some including myself, didn't want a product having anything to do with the Donner line of films, but it did not stop me from seeing the movie on opening day and giving it a real chance.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Rich — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:29:16 -0000

Quote j smith - "Time to put Donnerâ€™s version to bed cause really in this day and age who wants to see Supes turning time as a climax to a movie? Audiences are well tuned into comic lore and well very clued up and will not indulge mediocrity.Ironman is not even Marvelâ€™s top tiered hero and he managed to do what Superman,the ultimate flying guy,could not do." I agree with alot of his points earlier on his comment, but what exactly is it about "this day and age" that I find troubling? Here goes: I truly say this with no offense intended, but I'm sorry movie goers were not as 'sophisticated' as today's audiences back-in-the-day. I'm sorry people wanted to feel good about a hero and not be too troubled by the days worries back then. Never mind that "Superman" was one of the biggest box office films when adjusting for gross. Never mind that it ushered in the era of superhero movies as the prototype template. Yes, it's time to move on, but what direction do we go from here? That is the question.

Again, no offense intended, but this is why such comments have turned me off to the "know-it-all" generation of comic readers (I am not talking about j. smith, but lots of fans I encounter, in general). This is the same kind of rhetoric that purist of "The Lord of the Rings" books use to denegrate Peter Jackson's excellent trilogy. I am a fan of the LOTR books, and saw the movies as a companion. Superman is a character of many incarnations and SR was just another variant on him. It's a companion piece to a part of his history, for some better, for others worse.

I am not here to defend everything Bryan Singer did with SR. No one is arguing that Bryan Singer made a movie weak in story and action. Superkid is also a lousy idea, btw. But I argue it was the lack of knock-out, drag-out fist-fighting, Metropolis-leveling action that made SR a disappointment, not it's ties to Donner's version. SR actually had some nice art deco-style scenes that suited Metrolpolis very well.

As for Donner's version, I enjoyed it for what it is & the sense of fun and wonder. Certainly, Richard Donner's films had a healthy dose of camp & humor (and the 'turning back time' was a cope out to a certain extent, but in comics past Superman did do that...), but at least they had a nature of goodwill. And btw, if you go back and watch "Superman", you will note that Lex is tryin' to sink California with nukes, all the while smiling and joking while doing it! For it's time, it was a technical achievement, as well. Back then, there was no CGI like today. Likewise, I like "Smallville" and other things related to Superman to see how others interpret the character. I would also enjoy a totally different version, as well, if the character of Superman remains true. My point is people's tastes vary. Your Superman may not neccessarily by my Superman. The tent is big enough for many ideas, I think.

Well see how long it takes fans to denegrate Iron Man several years from now. To me a classic is a classic, and regardless of the passing of time, I look at it through the eyes of the era. For example, the original "King Kong" was a milestone of filmmaking, yet today the puppetry of FX guy Willis O'Brien looks like bad claymation. Believe it or not, I am already seeing fans coming down from their summer fan 'high' actually putting down "The Dark Knight"! No joke. Like I said, each person has his/her own tastes. My only point about a reboot is that it is too soon. I like Brandon Routh and would at least keep him. If not, maybe Warner should wait a few years so it will appear fresh and knew.

Btw, I am NOT trying change people's minds on SR, Bryan Singer, etc. I wasn't trying to give a comic movie history lesson either. All I'm saying is people in general should be objective and fair-minded on all sides. I want a great Superman movie as everyone else, but this constant internet banter on how bad SR was and whatever else is off-putting (not here, but on other blogs I've seen). Let's hope Warner can make a movie that we can agree on and be entertained by. Thanks, and again I don't mean to offend anyone if I did.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

D Block — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:12:48 -0000

well said...

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

j smith — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:00:25 -0000

Thank god they are rebooting.Returns was so flat.So dull.Lead protagonists lacked any chemistry.No real menace in lex Luthor.Supes mopes and gets kicked by goons and throws a rock in the sky and falls arms wide open and they call that messianic?Singer needs to go read what the term messianic means.Let's not talk of super boring baby Jason.I wanted to see Superman.Waited sooo long and what do I get a hack of a thirty year old movie with no vision.The movie costs was over 200 million US to make...and it limped its way to just over 300 million world wide.Warner Bros are a business and no one wishes for a movie to not do well...if this movie had really grossed then we would have seen a sequel.The indicators based on the response to Returns probably meant a Man of Steel would have made significantly less and not been as anticipated.I know people who were just to indifferent to it and Superman who is normally a draw for kids, well poor kids were so bored.

Time to put Donner's version to bed cause really in this day and age who wants to see Supes turning time as a climax to a movie?Audiences are well tuned into comic lore and well very clued up and will not indulge mediocrity.Ironman is not even Marvel's top tiered hero and he managed to do what Superman,the ultimate flying guy,could not do.

Get someone who cares and know about Superman to write it and try and cast people who actually have some chemistry.Some of the best Superman stories are Elseworlds...darker themed...where Supes actually remains the moral compass and beacon of light amidst the darkness.His movies don't have to keep the jokey tone of Donner's to be good.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Sithiel — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:26:05 -0000

One possible strategy is to create a crossover in a different setting. Since all of the previous settings were on earth, a new setting would make it look like a reboot. The new setting could be deep space wherein superman tries to look for the planet Krypton but instead ends up in another planet with either braniac or darksied and a revived general zod. They should include more action and many fight scenes with alien troopers and different military starships. In the end, he finally sees the remnants of the planet Krypton and makes his way back to earth. In this way, it could still pass as a prequel of superman returns. If this film becomes successful, they could now make sequels to superman returns. One sequel could be about superman's death from the battle with doomsday. And in the end of this movie they could show the reign or rise of the supermen featuring steal, the cyborg, the eradicator, and superboy. Superboy could be superman's son from superman returns, instead of a clone from star labs. This is where they could show the supermen as angry god versions of the original. I also think that Brandon Rought should still play superman's role.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

D Block — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:29:21 -0000

Well Rich, I completely understand what you're saying and where you're coming from. It's just the next joker who responded seemed to have had the idea that I make things up out of thin air just because. Hell, I liked Brandon Routh as Superman and I'll actually be sad to see him go as the man of steel, he grew on me and I think he was the best thing about the film, but the fact is, the sequel was not really going anywhere even before the great success of The Dark Knight. After the film, even Singer in interviews didn't seem all that excited about making another one. So I simply disagree that money made from DKR is the impetus for this reboot choice.
I think the primary reason for the reboot comes from Marvels' overall success (which has been killin' DC and WB) and also what Begins and DKR proved to them. What it proved was that fan friendly super hero movies (which every studio was afraid to make for a while) that take the source material seriously, stays generally faithful to it and doesn't just give fan boy service but also makes the characters understandable and endears the general public to them is the way to go. A director who really likes the character and will do their best to bring a faithful adaptation to the screen is key. That's why when I say Singer was more in love with the idea of making a Richard Donner Superman movie and not making a SUPERMAN movie, I really believe it. While I don't think DKR was incredibly faithful to the source material, because it wasn't, it still had the mood, weight, darkness and meaning that the book has always conveyed, and fans appreciated that and the general public "got it". (As a side note, this is that same thing I think will happen with Watchmen, Snyder knows what that movie needs to be great he'll try his best to do the material proud)
All of this I think is especially important if you want to bring these characters into the same universe as other franchise characters which is definitely a cue taken directly from Marvel studios. Yea, it may be motivated by dollar signs, but hell, if you get a good Wonder Woman movie, a good Flash and Green Lantern film and then end up with a great JLA movie to boot then that'll only benefits us, the fan.

Superman Returns IMO was written for an old Superman. The story seemed more appropriate for a retiring hero, not one in his prime. I think it would have been better if framed in a different context and an older Superman portrayed. Then a reboot really would have been not only appropriate, but understood.
I really loved the airplane scene in the movie, but how was it the only meaningful action scene in a Superman movie? That's what Superman cinematic experience is about, "the feats"! That's why I think the heavy script called for an older cast actually. Anyway, because I wasn't even born when the first Superman movie came out, I don't hold the same nostalgia as some fans might, nor did many of the children, adolescents, teens, and young adults which this movie was very much advertised toward. Maybe it's a generational gap. I love heavy and thoughtful films, just not for a new Superman movie after 20 years of being out of the cinema scene.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Rich — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:34:32 -0000

Thanks for your response, Chief. I take no offense and I like a good, healthy debate. We just disagree on some points, is all. All I am saying is Bryan Singer is a good director and could've delivered a great sequel (like he did w/ X2), if he was given the chance. The Superman reboot is NOT motivated by anything more than making more money (which is fine by me, as long as they make a good movie). "Superman Returns" was successful on many levels, but the problem is after "The Dark Knight" now every executive is expecting a box office monster, which is not always possible. Despite it's script flaws and lack of heavy action, SR was still able to recoup and make a reasonable profit. It was ready and primed for an action packed follow-up, just like "Batman Begins" was. But executives are now seeing SR through "Dark Knight" lenses and I can't help but think even if SR had a $300,000,000 domestic if that would've been enough to consider it successful for them. They could still "reboot" Superman with a follow-up to SR and its established continuity and deliver a more action-packed sequences w/ a great screenplay, that combines all the best things about Superman mythology.

I actually enjoyed the "The Incredible Hulk" very much, but I still know alot of people who did see the first film and also knew that it was in fact a reboot, and simply were not motivated to go see another interpretation so soon after Ang Lee's film came out. It was just too soon to have to take another crack at it, in my humble opinion. I liked that the reboot included nods to the 70's show starring Bill Bixby AND mixed in the essence of the comic book Hulk, as well. I think the producers they could still do a hugely successsful SR follow-up w/o actually completely rebooting, so-to-speak.

As for fans and source material, people like different approaches to comcis. Just like comics are broken down into different ages and styles, and in the Golden Age, Silver Age, Bronze, etc., some fans will say "I grew up w/ the Hulk of the 60's and that's the one I like", and others will go w/ the TV show starring Bill Bixby from the 70's, and so on. I am a fan of both the comics, cartoons AND shows because I see them as part of the same mythology; just different interpretations. For example, Adam West's Batman was campy and funny and I like watching them on DVD for fun, but I definitely wouldn't want to see a modern, campy version of the dark knight as a big budget movie. Some comcic fans can't stand the TV Batman of the 60's, which was clearly a spoof of the character. I judge each interpretation based on how it was approached.

For some, "Superman Returns" was not a perfect film, and I agree, but it had the potential to be great and included some fine moments. These days, eveyone is a critic, and no matter how good (or bad) a film is, it is going to be scrutinized. If SR was judged solely on action, then for some it failed to deliver. Yet despite it's flaws, most people I know enjoyed it. Would I and other people had preferred to see a new action-packed version? Perhaps; I would not mind seeing an "updated" film which still keeps Superman's character intact, but I also enjoyed Richard Donner's interpretation, too. So I was not disappointed in w/ most of Bryan Singer's choices and the idea of a direct lineage to the other movies (like using the "Superman" theme , and Production Design nods to Donner's films...and I can only imagine how "Superman II" would've been done w/ today's technology and CGI effects.) . Did I want to see more knock-out, drag-out action? Definitely. I wanted to see more action, and new villians, like Braniac or Darkseid. This may sound cynical (Iam not a cynic, though) but I just think it is a shame after 20 plus years to revive a Superman film ionly to reboot him again and leave fans of SR who were expecting a action-filled follow-up hanging, just for love of money.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

D Block — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:39:12 -0000

Oh I'm sorry Joe, the budget was somewhere between 209 and 250 million (both figures spit out by Singer) and it made 391 million world wide, lol. I'm sorry, please excuse me. That's also not including the money they spent on the huge advertisement blitz that Superman Returns had and the Incredible Hulk did not. And I love how the last post goes to critics accepting the film on Rotten Tomatoes as if it means anything (Plus I mentioned that in my previous post, I guess some people have selective memories). Critics love movies all the time that aren't successful, yes, it can happen. I'll put it really simply so you can understand.....

STUDIOS DO NOT REBOOT FRANCHISES IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL! IF "MOST" PEOPLE LIKED THE MOVIE THEN IT WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER AND PROMPTED THE STUDIO TO MAKE A DIRECT SEQUEL!

So what does that mean in the big picture?, I guess me and the people I know were correct. So if that makes you upset, and if you feel my opinion is wrong, then I guess you have to take that up with the WB. Oh, and it wasn't Marvel who said they wouldn't make a sequel to the incredible hulk, it was Letterier the director who said they may not, but he doesn't know, most of the cast is contracted for a sequel. The only reason why it may not happen is because of Marvels' big picture with the Avengers movie. But guess what, it doesn't matter because the overall consensus on the movie was favorable and it redeemed the franchise, the same cannot be said for Superman Returns, no matter what your fanboy mind might suggest.

Re: Superman Reboot Confirmed

Joe — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:56:29 -0000

"The movie was disappointing, mostly everyone who saw it came out thinking â€œwas that supposed to be a superman flick?â€, hence the good opening weekend numbers and then the sharp decline in revenue and ticket sales in subsequent weeks."

Yourself and some people you know doesn't mean "everyone." In truth, MOST people seemed to like the movie because the only Superman MOST people know is the Donner/Lester Superman. The movie didn't make 200 mil. It made 390 mil. It also rates a 77% (that's "fresh") on the critic pages. If you didn't like the movie, that's not an issue, but it's best not to just make things up to prove your point that your opinion is king.

The Incredible Hulk, this summer's crowning example of a "successful" reboot, will not end up grossing much more than its allegedly inferior predecessor. Recent news indicates that Marvel isn't even keen on making a sequel because of its moderate success as compared with other comic book movie franchises. The reboot worked with Batman. The pseudo-continuation worked with Superman for many people. A reboot will likely NOT surpass its gross.